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calibob

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The 12 steps of CRA,

(adapted from AA, DRA and Celebrate Recovery)

1.) We recognize and admit the unmanageability of our lives due to problems, which we are powerless over.


2) We came to believe that the Lord could restore our lives and sanity.


3.) We made a commitment to turn our 'self-will' over to Gods will with care and guidance of the Lord.


4.) We made a fearless, searching personal inventory of our constructive and self-destructive patterns.


5.) We admitted to the Lord, ourselves, and to a trustworthy adult, the specific nature of our good and fallen natures.


6.) We prepared ourselves to allow the Lord to transform our lives.


7.) We humbly asked the Lord to make the corrections necessary for us to live happy, joyous and free.


8.) We made a list of all people to whom we’ve done wrong to and became willing to make things right.


9.) We made direct amends for our misdeeds and misbehaviors, whenever possible, to those we had wronged or harmed. Unless in so doing so we would cause further harm to them or others.


10.) We continue to take personal inventory and when are wrong, we quickly admit it, while continuing to recognize our progress in C.R.A.


11.) We continually seek through prayer and meditation to increase our conscious connection, with the Lord, asking only for His will to be revealed to us, and for His power to help us carry that through.


12.) Having had a spiritual revival through following these steps, we now carry the Good News to those who also suffer the enigma of multiple disorders, as we practice these principles in all our affairs.





“Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness,

then all these things will be added unto you."

 

calibob

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We were once fallen apples but not rotten ones.
The seeds of a fallen apple no matter how corrupt it was. Bring new life and a whole crop of fresh healthy ones, nourishing to the spirit, mind and soul.​
 

Magenta

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Thank you so much for your kind words, Magenta.

I appreciate it so much but I have to tell you, I think anyone who's read several of my posts also knows I can be meaner than a viper and not the best role model as far as temperament!

I highly respect you as a wise, very giving Christian sister and am grateful for the things you share. I'm always looking for people to learn from in my Christian walk and for me, there's no better place than among other Christians who are honest and real about how hard walking that walk really is.

I think it's unfair for me to just sit in and read about everyone else, so I want to be honest in sharing that my greatest lifelong struggle has been with disordered eating. I call it disordered eating rather than an eating disorder because I've never fit into one particular category, and when I went to professionals for help, oddly enough, they totally disregarded what I told them about the eating and said that I had depression instead.

I understand that depression can be a root cause, but their solution (not surprisingly) was to try to put me on a myriad of antidepressant drugs. One of the churches I was heavily involved in (also unsurprisingly) told me to "throw away all the drugs" and "just believe" Jesus had healed me instead.

And so, after about a 10-year stretch and more counselors than I can remember, I couldn't see where the medical angle was helping me (but I thoroughly encourage anyone struggling with something to please seek professional help, because it just might work for you), I decided, no more "mood" medications, no more counselors (some were even Christian), and I'll see how I fare just trying to walk with God.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm in some kind of dire situation. In my own estimation, I was never extreme, but in our own eyes, I guess we never are, huh? God has been so good to me in helping me to finally get up and move on from the things that really flare up my symptoms (such as the wrong friendships and relationships.) It took me years to let these things go because I was highly emotionally co-dependent. But now my relationship with food is much closer to normal than it's ever been before and I have only God and very patient people to thank for that.

And the one thing I'm grateful for in all of this is that I think it gives me just a small glimpse into the struggles of my Christian brothers and sisters. Like Paul, I've prayed many times that God would take away this "thorn" in my flesh, but it's still there. I can just imagine how many times my Christian brothers and sisters have prayed for the obsessive thoughts and cravings to go away, but every morning you wake up, and those feelings are still there.

I don't know what it's like to have to struggle with not taking a drink (that leads to an endless stream of more), but I know what it's like to be addicted to a substance, and for me, that would be food. I know what it's like to plan your entire days off or weeks around buying 3 or more bags of groceries, cooking/preparing them all, scarfing down every last morsel and then worrying about how you're going to prevent it from affecting your appearance, using every means necessary, such as purging, obsessive exercise, starving, and using sleeping pills that you're hoping will make you continuously sleep instead of eating.

Every day when I look at food in stores, ads, windows, and restaurants everywhere around me, every time I feel stressed out and try to avoid the destructive cycle I know I'm secretly planning in the back of my mind, I think about what it must be like for people who wake up in the morning and feel surrounded by the substances they crave and obsessively start planning their days around, and I feel broken-hearted for them.

Thank you all so much for sharing your stories.

I know mine is in a different category and I held back from sharing because a problem like this makes me feel a little out of place when it comes to sitting among those who really know what a true fight is. Thank you for being so gracious to listen.
Even if I don't say much here, I'm trying to follow along and will definitely be praying for the people who are bravely sharing their struggles, and taking that huge risk in order to reach out to others.
God bless and thank you so much again. :)
Kim :love: My apologies for my tardy response, for which I will not make excuses. I have thought quite a bit about what you have said here, and can relate to a lot of it, especially the unhealthy emotional co-dependence, and the aversion to taking prescribed drugs as a solution, when we believe our problem is not truly chemical, but psychological.

One of the miracles for me was that as soon as I started going to Narcotics Anonymous, the obsession to use was lifted. I was also, as they say, sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. It seemed so obvious in some ways to me that my problems began with me, and my outer reality was simply a reflection of my inner inability to cope with life on life's terms. Twenty four years of drinking and drugging was also just a symptom of my illness. The root cause was more complex, and started long before I ever picked up that first mind and/or mood altering substance. Some of my story took many years for me to uncover in a more coherent form, and I still struggle to get a better perspective on my life and tell my story in a cohesive manner. Starting at the beginning seems like such a novel idea at times :giggle:

The beginning for me was being the seventh of eleven children. Of course I realize that my parents did the best they could with what they had, and believe me, I am grateful not to have the attitude of my one sister who ragged on at my mother telling her they (my parents) had no business having so many children when they could not "love us properly." We were clothed, housed, fed, and educated, and those are aspects of being loved, for sure. It was the emotional void that was difficult for us, never being shown any affection or being told we were loved, my father being largely absent due to his busy-ness bringing home the bacon, and my mother seeming emotionally unavailable, cold and distant as she ruled the roost with an iron fist. With eleven children to raise spanning nineteen years in age, I honestly don't know how she managed. I know I am not the only one who felt lost in the shuffle. I consider myself to have had a happy childhood in many respects, but I did feel like a bit of an outsider and started rebelling at a young age.

I was also sexually molested at a young age, and preyed upon by too many married men seeking to take advantage of my innocence while entering adolescence. That fuelled a lot of my rejection of what I saw as traditional values, and against institutionalized relationships. It was also the late sixties and early seventies when I came of age, and I ran headlong into the cultural lie of free love. Who doesn't want be loved? But I had no idea what love was. AND, I was deeply wounded in early relationships. Being vulnerable, and feeling defenseless, and brought up in an environment where such subjects were taboo, amounted eventually to the reality for me that... love wasn't safe. It was easier to attempt escape, though escape routes were fraught with traps, too.

One thing I often deliberately neglect in the telling of my story is some of my spiritual experiences, because I know they diverge from the norm. I was extremely sensitive. I realized at a very young age (I think I was about ten) that there was something inside of me that was very vital and more real and therefore more important than the day to day mundane aspects of my life. This led me into doing dream work off and on over the course of decades, starting in my late teens or early twenties. Even though I rejected traditional ideas of God, I knew dreams were one way God revealed Himself and communicated with people. Many things were shown to me. Some of them were inconsequential beyond letting me know that there was value in what I was seeking, and some dreams were of major import, especially in retrospect, because I did not always understand the content of my dreams at the time I had them.

When I got clean and sober, being encouraged to explore my own understanding of God and what I considered to be spiritual was invaluable to me. I was emboldened to seek more openly and fearlessly, and embarked upon one of the greatest adventures of my life that ultimately led me to belief in the One True God, the same One I had rejected as a child and run from the majority of my life. The Scriptural promise that God would reveal Himself to those who sought diligently came true for me. It turned my whole world upside down, and took me a while to surrender my own ideas.

One more thing: I was prescribed drugs in my early thirties by a psychiatrist whose response to my introductory story to her was to ask me how I had found a scarf to match my slacks so perfectly. Her question was completely devoid of any empathy or sense of compassion, yet she pushed drugs on me as a solution to my problems. I still laugh at that, though I was not amused at the time. I am much more an alternative therapies type of person, than someone who takes drugs that are systematically forced upon an uninformed populace by the pharmaceutical industry and modern medical system. Her response was a far cry from the intake person when I was admitted to the psych ward following multiple overdoses when I was twenty. That woman asked me after hearing the story I told, "Haven't you ever done anything for yourself?"


 

Magenta

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Working the 12 steps was the beginning of learning how to live a healthier, more balanced life. My awareness of both my disease, and the solution, Who I know today as Jesus Christ, continues to increase exponentially. For this I am grateful :)

I wanted to add this to the end of my previous post but I had already exceeded the character limit :giggle:
 

Magenta

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Thank you so much for your kind words, Magenta.
You are welcome, Kim :)

I appreciate it so much but I have to tell you, I think anyone who's read several of my posts also knows I can be meaner than a viper and not the best role model as far as temperament! o_O
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but I must say, I disagree. You are by far one of the kindest most thoughtful people I have met here, and I will always be grateful to you for the kindness you have shown me.

PS~ if you have given anyone what-for, they more than likely deserved it ;)

Thank you for having such courage :)
 

calibob

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Thank you for sharing a wonderful testimony with Magenta You are again an inspiration to us all. :love:(y):):cool:
 

CharliRenee

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Thank you for sharing a wonderful testimony with Magenta You are again an inspiration to us all. :love:(y):):cool:
Yes I agree, thank you Magenta for sharing, such an inspiration. God Bless you all.
 

calibob

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Welcome to CRA Christians in Recovery Anonymous we are a Christian 12 group that realize Christians have the same kinds of problems as any body else but the only higher power we believe in is the one and only true God of creation his Son and Holy Spirit. Accept no substitute.

This program is no accident it was first incarnated as the Caimbrige group in 1921 and based on the 8 principals of the Beatitudes as found in Matthew 5 along with personal testimony. I was revolutionary. An agnostic named Bill W. learned about it but had trouble with the requirement to believe in God. A suggestion was made that all he had to do was make up a god that he could understand, and helping others was a vital ingredient in recovery program as well as acknowledging a god of our own understanding. He fine tuned the program to help alcoholics originally and with a little help from friends they developed the 12 steps and Alcoholics Anonymous was created.

Since the first edition was sold in 1939 over 30 million new copies have been sold but spinoff versions for drugs, gambling, eating disorders and the like are in print also. The 12 steps have been proven very useful to treat many enigmatic problems that have baffled mankind for 1000's of years. I thank the Old Timers of AA and the Lord for this. The 12 steps eventual goal is to reunite us with God. and to recognize ourselves in the process. from a simple program that started 98 years ago Millions have been saved and found the Lord through the program. Sometimes the biggest obstacle to overcome is that God is a big mean perfectionist oh takes joy in punishing sinners rather than the kind loving and gentle savior who's love endures forever.
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
May 29, 2018
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Over the nearly century great strides have been made in mental health and links have been found between addictive and other mental and emotional malfunctions and they be come comingled like cool aid powder, water and sugar. We can't take them apart. They are called Co Occurring disorders. (or dual diagnosis) Treating one while ignoring the other is only a half measure at best. Everyone familiar with AA/NA literature recognizes "Half measures availed us nothing."

The purpose of CRA is to help others who suffer with the help of the Lord and the work of the steps. Fellowship in the program and helping others while honestly evaluating ourselves are the keys to a new life, new future and a new relationship with the Lord.
 

Bingo

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"We can reflect somewhat on some of our own pain and suffering from an addiction...and what
must have been a lot of suffering that went into putting together the AA 12 step program. I for one
am grateful for all those that put together such a rewarding and powerful message, that over the
years has physically, and spiritually helped millions. Thank God for AA and a sober life today."
'Praise God'
 

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Bingo

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Over the nearly century great strides have been made in mental health and links have been found between addictive and other mental and emotional malfunctions and they be come comingled like cool aid powder, water and sugar. We can't take them apart. They are called Co Occurring disorders. (or dual diagnosis) Treating one while ignoring the other is only a half measure at best. Everyone familiar with AA/NA literature recognizes "Half measures availed us nothing."

The purpose of CRA is to help others who suffer with the help of the Lord and the work of the steps. Fellowship in the program and helping others while honestly evaluating ourselves are the keys to a new life, new future and a new relationship with the Lord.
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"Amen"....Thank you 'Brother'...for being you and sharing!"
'Praise God'
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
May 29, 2018
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Anaheim, Cali.
"We can reflect somewhat on some of our own pain and suffering from an addiction...and what
must have been a lot of suffering that went into putting together the AA 12 step program. I for one
am grateful for all those that put together such a rewarding and powerful message, that over the
years has physically, and spiritually helped millions. Thank God for AA and a sober life today."
'Praise God'
AMEN. AA was where I started too. The 12 steps work. If we do our share that is.
 

calibob

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We here are not speaking as Pastors, Doctors, Shaman or Gurus nor pray to crystals, stars, Buddha or Yoda. Just solid Christian doctrine combined with the twelve steps> It worked for us! Thanks and good morning Bingo Bob.
 

calibob

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Celebrate Recovery's Eight Recovery Principles
The Road to Recovery Based on the Beatitudes

Realize I’m not God; I admit that I am powerless to control my tendency to do the wrong thing and that my life is unmanageable. (Step 1)
“Happy are those who know that they are spiritually poor.” Matthew 5:3a TEV


Earnestly believe that God exists, that I matter to Him and that He has the power to help me recover. (Step 2)
“Happy are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.” Matthew 5:4 TEV, NIV


Consciously choose to commit all my life and will to Christ’s care and control. (Step 3)
“Happy are the meek.” Matthew 5:5a TEV


Openly examine and confess my faults to myself, to God, and to someone I trust. (Steps 4 and 5)
“Happy are the pure in heart.” Matthew 5:8a TEV


Voluntarily submit to any and all changes God wants to make in my life and humbly ask Him to remove my character defects. (Steps 6 and 7)
“Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires” Matthew 5:6a TEV


Evaluate all my relationships. Offer forgiveness to those who have hurt me and make amends for harm I’ve done to others when possible, except when to do so would harm them or others. (Steps 8 and 9)
“Happy are the merciful.” Matthew 5:7a TEV; “Happy are the peacemakers” Matthew 5:9 TEV


Reserve a daily time with God for self-examination, Bible reading, and prayer in order to know God and His will for my life and to gain the power to follow His will. (Steps 10 and 11)


Yield myself to God to be used to bring this Good News to others, both by my example and my words. (Step 12)
“Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires.” Matthew 5:10 TEV
 

calibob

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Let's begin the week in the traditional fashion.>
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I'm calibob, I'm in recovery for addictive disorders and depression I thank God, His Son and Holy Spirit for their help and the 12 steps. This meeting is open.
 

Bingo

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"Good morning all. Following is a piece from an AA member....R.I.P.

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'ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS is a fellowship designed and administered by a bunch of ex-drunks
whose only qualifications for membership are that they can't hold their liquor and have decided
they don't want to learn how. Not that they could anyway, they never could, and it's highly
unlikely that they ever would. It has no rules, dues or fees, nor anything else that any sensible
organization seems to require.
At meetings, the speaker starts on one subject, winds up talking about something entirely
different, and concludes by saying he doesn't know anything about the program except that it
works. The groups are always broke, yet always seem to have money to carry on. They are always
losing members but seem to grow. They claim AA is a selfish program but they always seem to be
trying to give it away and to do something for others.
Every group passes laws, rules, edicts and pronouncements that everyone blithely ignores;
members who disagree with anything have the privilege to walk out in a huff, quitting forever, only
to return as if nothing has happened and be greeted accordingly. Nothing is ever planned 24 hours
ahead, yet great projects are born and survive magnificently. Nothing in AA is according to Hoyle.
How can it survive?
Perhaps it's because we have learned to live and laugh at ourselves. God made man. He made
laughter too. Perhaps he is pleased with our disorganized efforts and makes things right no matter
who pushes the wrong button. Maybe he is pleased, not with our lack of perfection, but with our
sincerity. Maybe he is pleased with our trying to be nobody but ourselves. We don't know how it
works, but it does, and members keep receiving their dividends from their AA investments. It is
smart to be sober, and much easier, my friends, to stay sober than to get sober.'

( from some other members' writings)

{ from friend to a friend~ R.I.P. } ®
'anonymous'
 

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calibob

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Thanks Bingo. We certainly owe a lot to Bill W., Dr. Bob, Dr. Silkworth, Dave B. and all of the others who started AA before the 12 steps were common knowledge. AA paved the way. The honest self examination techniques, honesty with self, God and others along with faith have gone world wide. It's not just for alcoholics any more.

Be that as it may, I'd like to change the subject focus from substance abuse to, let's say Co-dependency and enabling. Hasn't any ever watched over, made excuses for, or lied for a disturbed loved one? Did you overcome it? How? Why and what was your part. Can you please share? That's part of how it works.
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
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How about something else we can't ingest like gambling/sports addiction? Do you think the 12 steps can help? We may have some info for you.