If i might, your question seem to assume some things. The state requires a marriage license for a marriage to be civilly recognized and the state dictates who can perform valid marriages. The state accepts marriages performed by clergy as valid. So the license isnt required by God but it is for the state. If I remember correctly your OP mentioned marriage by a judge. That's valid according to the state but not by God.
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They are not married and the one flesh is a reference to the expected product of marriage, children.
I have a feeling the OP didn't get the answer that he wanted.
I was married once. She was pregnant with our 2nd child and so I figured out this is the time to get married but I was a 23 year old and not much money yet back then. I couldn't afford a wedding. So we got married by a justice of the peace downtown and it was legal, and the plan was save up and do the ceremony and party later, Worked out pretty good. I've heard of other couples doing the same thing. Her wedding ring started out as a $200 (overpriced) ring that was 1/10 of a carat. In other words, a diamond chip lol.
After we went in business and some time went by I had that ring upgraded seriously. It was worth waiting for.
Not wanting to cough up the 25 bucks for a marriage license is kind of lame, lol. The money does not matter. The goal is a marriage that is honorable by God. Geez he cancelled the bbq too. (Lol)
Well if you take off the western romanticized lens you will see what God is actually saying.
What is the expected product of marriage between an older couple who are beyond childbearing?
The point is one flesh is children, you know two DNA's combine and become one DNA, cause God knows what He is talking about.
You didn't answer my question about the expected 'product' of marriage between an older man and woman who will not be having any children.The point is one flesh is children, you know two DNA's combine and become one DNA, cause God knows what He is talking about.
The expected product of marriage in the eyes of God far encompasses just merely, for younger couples, having children. There is a lot of physical intimacy as well, also, together, with the grace of God, facing the challenges of day-to-day living.
I don't think children was the major reason for marriage.
God just simply said it was not good for Adam to be alone.
So He made Eve out Adam's rib and presented her to him.
The presentation was the marriage ceremony.
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So I see nowhere where I denied the bonding aspect of marriage, however the word is "shall.'
What you have is a cultural interpretation, what scripture states is in the case of Adam and Eve, they already were one flesh, then they became two flesh (she being his rib first and then her own), then they become one flesh again via the procreation of producing their descendants who are the combined flesh of both Adam and Eve.
Believe as you will ,but this is the historical-biblical understanding of "one flesh" and it has nothing to do with married couples who cannot conceive, but it is about protecting marriage as the proper place where from children should come.
Divorce cannot undo "one flesh" because one flesh are the children.
But couples can get divorced.
this says there was -----
What were common marriage customs in Bible times? | GotQuestions.org
What were common marriage customs in Bible times? What were customary wedding practices in Bible times?
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A Jewish betrothal was an important part of the marriage process and was as binding as marriage itself.
Those initiating the betrothal and witnesses to the event would likely sign a marriage contract called a ketubah.
Therefore, if one or both parties wished to end the betrothal, they would be required to get a divorce.
We see this in the case of Mary and Joseph, who were pledged to be married; when Mary was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit, Joseph considered divorcing Mary quietly to protect her reputation (Matthew 1:18–19). However, after an angel visited Joseph in the night, Joseph decided to continue their betrothal. As a betrothed couple, Mary and Joseph were essentially husband and wife, and they later married (verse 24), although they did not consummate the marriage until after Jesus was born (verse 25).
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During the time of Jesus (first-century Judea), the signing of the
ketubah (marriage contract) was a critical legal component of the betrothal (erusin) phase, which marked the formal, legally binding beginning of a marriage, often occurring a year before the couple lived together.
It was not merely a ceremonial document but a crucial protection for the bride, outlining the husband's financial and legal obligations to her in case of divorce or death
Topical Lexicon
Overview of New Testament Usage
The word signals more than a modern engagement; it denotes a binding pledge already recognized as marriage in legal and social terms
Still waiting on scripture that says you have to get a marriage license from the state for a marriage to be valid in the eyes of the Lord
So can you provide scripture that says a marriage is not honored by God unless one gets a marriage license from the state?
Maybe they need to be like Abraham and Sarah and believe God for a kid, you know while they are in their 80s or 90s?
God told them to multiply which means do the wild thang and have some babies right?
No, one flesh is when a couple does the wild thang and they join their intimate parts together
Yeah but I'm not Jewish.
I'm a Christian.
Besides, that was something AI cooked up and everybody knows you can't trust AI
AI is probably just punking you
Not like that I can't but he did say in scripture how the betrothal and marriage should be done. Why can't you read that and say, oh that's how God said it should be done, I'll do that...?
Ok, so your comprehension is good...
Comprehension works fine. So why can't you do that with the Marriage scriptures? WHy do you attempt an end run around God by saying, oh here's the Lord talking about Marriage and how to do it, but that's not important, where does he say we must get a license from our State officials??
That's an obvious dodge my friend.
Does your girlfriend use your last name? Why not? It would seem that you don't want to do anything of God's specifications except hop into bed with her. Brother, you can not justify ignoring the Lord's instructions by demanding that specific verse that you already know is not in there.
Are you going to put her on the deed to the house? Add her to your bank account?
WHy do you want to be able to call yourselves married, but wont do all of marriage things? You're not getting over on me, and it wont be God. Your heart is in the wrong place on this.
Besides, that was something AI cooked up and everybody knows you can't trust AI
AI is probably just punking you
So you are intelligent! You know that AI can not be trusted, kudos for figuring this out! I thought I was alone.
Hint, everybody does NOT know that AI can't be trusted. I've never used AI even one time, and never will.
But you do know this, interesting.
If your a True Christian ----your one with Christ your neither Jew or Gentile --
Your not interested in the Truth your interested in twisting Scripture to suit your own intellectual thinking cause you want to be right -----
and it not just Ai ----I posted Got Questions as well they Agree with AI ---
So your just grasping at straws ---cause you don't want to sign any papers --you want what you want not what God wants ---
So your really showing that your not a True Christian by your disobedience to obey what God says -about the marriage and how it is conducted -----
the Holy Spirit will not direct anyone to go against scripture -------