The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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No. The obtaining true belief/faith is not a work but it is only by God's work. But in any event. our faith does not give grace, but God's grace gives our faith. You've reversed the sequence.

[2Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

[Jhn 6:29 KJV] 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

[Phl 1:29 KJV] 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

No, I do not reverse grace and faith, but you ignore much of the sequence indicated by Scripture instead of learning:

divine omnilove (John 3:16, 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4), Christ's death (Rom. 5:6-8, Matt. 5:44 &48), God's justness (2Thes. 1:6a, cf. Rom. 3:25-26 & 9:14, Deut. 32:4, Psa. 36:6, Luke 11:42, Rev. 15:3) and fairness or impartiality (Joel 2:13, Rom. 2:11, Eph. 6:9, Col. 3:25, 1Pet. 1:17).

You also reverse/redefine giving and receiving: opening God's gift through faith does not mean earning it,
as you perversely insist. Accepting grace is not working to merit it. Maybe you do not give gifts?
 
No, I do not reverse grace and faith, but you ignore much of the sequence indicated by Scripture instead of learning:

divine omnilove (John 3:16, 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4), Christ's death (Rom. 5:6-8, Matt. 5:44 &48), God's justness (2Thes. 1:6a, cf. Rom. 3:25-26 & 9:14, Deut. 32:4, Psa. 36:6, Luke 11:42, Rev. 15:3) and fairness or impartiality (Joel 2:13, Rom. 2:11, Eph. 6:9, Col. 3:25, 1Pet. 1:17).

You also reverse/redefine giving and receiving: opening God's gift through faith does not mean earning it,
as you perversely insist. Accepting grace is not working to merit it. Maybe you do not give gifts?

Just read the following verse - it's right there: their faith was obtained from God (Jesus Christ). God does not give it to everyone so those whom He does give it to, had to have been given grace first - they certainly couldn't have had faith first if faith had to be obtained from God from His righteousness.

[2Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
 
You have been saying the Ten Commandments ARE the Mosaic Law apart from the entire system of practices in which it is embedded. However, the fact that the OLD COVENANT was often abbreviated by the term "The Law" does not mean it has been reduced only of moral/legal injunctions. I think you do that because people [especially Christians] are generally in agreement that breaking the moral law is evil. This includes not only the "ten words" but many other prohibitions and practices.

As Paul wrote: 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
(1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

It is notable that Paul does not mention keeping Shabbat though, if that is equivalent to disobeying a moral command then multitudes of Christians who do not belong to your Shabbat- keeping sect (whatever that is) would be in danger of "not inheriting the eternal Kingdom in the world to come" Although this follows naturally from your premise, that we are saved not only by repenting of sin and trusting in Jesus but also by keeping the (Mosaic and Levitical) law you seem strangely reticent to explain the conclusions your theology leads us to.
For instance it seems to me that if a believer must follow all the commands of the Old Covenant, then what about circumcision. Under the First Covenant every male who was either born into that covenant or wanted to join it had to receive the mark of CIRCUMCISION. Is this expected of all males who wish to join your group? What about keeping the feast days or adopting a kosher diet? All of these practices were based on divine commands which, you claim, can never be abrogated or altered.

When it comes to keeping Shabbat, do you obey it completely or do you compromise? When I lived in Israel, the Hasidim had to walk to their respective "Beit Haknessets" since driving there in their cars would involve "lighting a fire" (igniting fuel) which would be a violation of Shabbat. They could not ride with someone else since that too would also be a violation of Shabbat. If you are really serious about keeping Shabbat you would carefully consider these matters. As a reference I refer you to the Talmud which has recorded endless debates and opinions on this subjects by the Rabbis. If you are not serious and are just "winging it" then do so - just do not try and impose your opinions on other believers in Jesus (as you are in the habit of doing). Furthermore, if you belong to the United Church of God or some offshoot of the Churches started by the Armstongs you shoud be honest and not try to secretly smuggle in some belief that you are the only true Church.
 
You also reverse/redefine giving and receiving: opening God's gift through faith does not mean earning it,
as you perversely insist. Accepting grace is not working to merit it. Maybe you do not give gifts?

Where did I use the word "earn"? I have never "insisted" that it be "earned", and I don't know where you got that from.
But, having to accept grace in order to receive it, makes the receiving of it man's work and thereby directly contradicts the doctrine of grace. Grace is given by God as a free gift to those whom He had chosen to salvation by His divine prerogative as Savior, with no prerequisites or stipulations whatsoever imposed upon grace by God other than it be given only to His chosen.
 
You are making obedience to the Mosaic Law the criteria by which men are admitted into the Kingdom. I hope you do not believe this literally but you fail to make necessary distinctions to separate your beliefs from the erroneous opinions the Judaeizers which Paul condemned. The Galations also encountered many who were teaching that those who had been converted to Christ ALSO had to practice all the works of the Law. Thus being righteous depends on both faith and following the works of the LAW.

modify it.
I find it perplexing that so many people relate the Ten Commandments as the law of Moses when the Law itself has nothing to do with Moses, but has everything to do with our relationship with God. God’s name (not Moses) is in each one of these commandments and He takes ownership of them not just in the words itself, but He did not leave His holy and eternal Law to be written by man, God divinely wrote them Himself, not just once but twice. He wrote them in stone for its eternal nature and then He writes His laws in our heart 2Cor3:3 Heb 8:10 The first 4 commandments show how to love God and the last 6 how we love our neighbor. They cover so much more than people realize Psa 119:96 just as Jesus taught from this same unit Mat 5:19-30

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

I personally do not see how Scripture could be clearer about whose Law is the Ten Commandments and Moses the creation and servant of God, is not God the Creator of everything Exo 20:11. Moses own testimony said the Ten Commandments is God’s work not his, so why do so many insist it’s the law of Moses so we no longer need to keep them when there is not one Scripture in context that says this.

Deu 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deu 5:22 "These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deu 29:1
These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He made with them in Horeb.


The Ten Commandments is what sits under God’s mercy seat Exo 25:21. What He wrote and what He spoke, the words of the covenant Exo 34:28 that He promised not to alter Psa 89:34 as it is revealed in heaven Heb 8:1-5 Rev 15:5 Rev 11:18-19. This is God’s authority that no one can change a jot or tittle, as it is what all man will be Judged by James 2:11 Rev 22:15. We have a righteous and loving God, He would not judge us without telling us how He will judge us and He did so in the most awesome way.

It seems many people have followed the traditions of the churches over the commandments of God. Jesus addressed this who is God made flesh and wrote the Ten Commandments…

Mar 7:7 AND IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'

Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God (meaning not for me) , you hold the tradition of men

I believe we are living in the last days before Jesus comes in the clouds. Are there any commandments of God we are laying aside and instead following popular traditions? Breaking God’s law is sin 1 John 3:4 We have time to change our ways today, but we do not know what tomorrow brings.

Heb 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but [b]exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.


Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
 
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Any worship of God by commandment is carnal and if it is given because of commandment, it is meaningless. Worship only has meaning with God if the one worshipping gives it from the heart and not by command, in which case, no command to do so is necessary.
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You realize the Holy Spirit who wrote the Ten Commandments that included the first commandment to have no other gods before Me and you claim He doing so is carnal. God said its love Exo20:6 John14:15 1John5:3

The bible says the canal mind is the opposite, those who do not subject themselves to the law of God.

Rom 8: 7 Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Sad world we are in- obeying God is carnal disobeying God is good. Thats certainly what one spirit wishes for us to believe not God.
 
You realize the Holy Spirit who wrote the Ten Commandments that included the first commandment to have no other gods before Me and you claim He doing so is carnal. God said its love Exo20:6 John14:15 1John5:3

The bible says the canal mind is the opposite, those who do not subject themselves to the law of God.

Rom 8: 7 Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Sad world we are in- obeying God is carnal disobeying God is good. Thats certainly what one spirit wishes for us to believe not God.

Yes, and for the same reason as worshipping God cannot be demanded through law or commandment - to be true and honest, it must come from the heart, not by commandment. And all of those laws and commandments were changed through Christ as high priest.
And which also holds true for everything that had been commanded under the Old Covenant.
You simply cannot grasp that concept.
The "carnal mind" is the unsaved mind of natural man and is not the spiritual mind given by the Holy Spirit.
 
Yes, and for the same reason as worshipping God cannot be demanded through law or commandment - to be true and honest, it must come from the heart, not by commandment. And all of those laws and commandments were changed through Christ as high priest.
And which also holds true for everything that had been commanded under the Old Covenant.
You simply cannot grasp that concept.
The "carnal mind" is the unsaved mind of natural man and is not the spiritual mind given by the Holy Spirit.
Well God did command it both written by God and spoken by God and calling the Creator as carnal for doing so....we need to figure which side of this battle we are on. Mat12:30

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
 
Well God did command it both written by God and spoken by God and calling the Creator as carnal for doing so....we need to figure which side of this battle we are on. Mat12:30

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

lol that's funny because it is you who is actually calling God carnal by wrongly insisting that He is telling His children to follow commandments, HE, HIMSELF, called carnal - commandments He did away with in Christ; commandments they would never be able to satisfy by following to become saved, yet according to you, they should be placed back under - back under the Levitical priesthood and its laws and commandments from which Christ has freed them.
I've tried multiple times to explain this to you but no matter how many times I try, you are simply unable and or unwilling to comprehend the liberty of the New Covenant which, through Christ, is the only way to salvation. You are blinded by the Old Covenant.
As of now, you're on ignore.
 
lol that's funny because it is you who is actually calling God carnal by wrongly insisting that He is telling His children to follow commandments, HE, HIMSELF, called carnal - commandments He did away with in Christ; commandments they would never be able to satisfy by following to become saved, yet according to you, they should be placed back under - back under the Levitical priesthood and its laws and commandments from which Christ has freed them.
I've tried multiple times to explain this to you but no matter how many times I try, you are simply unable and or unwilling to comprehend the liberty of the New Covenant which, through Christ, is the only way to salvation. You are blinded by the Old Covenant.
As of now, you're on ignore.
Quote one verse in the Bible says, God commanded us to only worship Him is a carnal commandment. Sadly you do not understand the commandments of God Exo20:6- they belong to God that Jesus is God the same God who spoke them. The argument that we are free in Christ by worshipping another god I guess we can see how that works out. It didn't work out for anyone in Scripture.
 
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I find it perplexing that so many people relate the Ten Commandments as the law of Moses when the Law itself has nothing to do with Moses, but has everything to do with our relationship with God. God’s name (not Moses) is in each one of these commandments and He takes ownership of them not just in the words itself, but He did not leave His holy and eternal Law to be written by man, God divinely wrote them Himself, not just once but twice. He wrote them in stone for its eternal nature and then He writes His laws in our heart 2Cor3:3 Heb 8:10 The first 4 commandments show how to love God and the last 6 how we love our neighbor. They cover so much more than people realize Psa 119:96 just as Jesus taught from this same unit Mat 5:19-30

None of us originated the term "The Law of Moses (Hebrew: תֹּורַת מֹשֶׁה Torat Moshe) This term was used in earlier times to mean the Laws that were revealed to Moses by God at Sinai which were recorded on tablets of stone and subsequently reiterated in the Torah (or the first five books of the Hebrew Bible). The first five books were also called The Law of Moses or the Torah of Moses (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה‎תֹּורַ torat Moshe). The Septuagint, a translation of the Hebrew into Ancient Greek, also refers to νόμος Μωυσῆ, or the Law of Moses or in some translations the "Teachings of Moses") This terminology was used when Joshua wrote the Hebrew "words" of "Torat Moshe תֹּורַת מֹשֶׁה‎" on an altar of stones at Mount Ebal:

30 At that time Joshua built an altar on Mount Ebal to the LORD, the God of Israel, 31just as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded the Israelites. He built it according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses:
( Joshua 8:30)

The term occurs 15 times in the Hebrew Bible, a further 7 times in the New Testament, and repeatedly in Second Temple period, inter-testamental, rabbinical and patristic literature. The Hebrew word for the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, was translated into the Greek word "nomos" or "Law"

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.


I personally do not see how Scripture could be clearer about whose Law is the Ten Commandments and Moses the creation and servant of God, is not God the Creator of everything Exo 20:11. Moses own testimony said the Ten Commandments is God’s work not his, so why do so many insist it’s the law of Moses so we no longer need to keep them when there is not one Scripture in context that says this.

I believe the TEN COMMANDMENTS are commands from God. However, I also believe the One who is the Lord of Shabbat in addition to allowing us a day to REST on the Seventh Day has also given a day focusing on fellowship with our heavenly family in which New Covenant gather together, to fellowship in the blood of Christ and worship. Historically this was set on the FIRST DAY to honor Christ's Resurrection. Henceforth believers called the day after Shabbat HE LORD'S DAY because it commemorates the Resurrection of Christ. As Shabbat looks back to the completion of the Old Creation so the First Day looks forward to the hope of a a future resurrection and thye hope of a new creation.

Deu 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
Deu 5:22 "These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.
Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
Exo 34:28 So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Deu 29:1
These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He made with them in Horeb.


Heb 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:“Today, if you will hear His voice, 8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. 10 Therefore I was angry with that generation, And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, And they have not known My ways.’11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”


You have made Shabbat-keeping the central criteria by which God will determine our eternal destiny. So, in addition to the foundational truths of repentance and faith we must now add Sabbath-keeping. I have an idea that Paul the wise masterbuilder would object to someone adding to the blueprint. Futhermore, if Paul believed Sabbath keeping was essential to our salvation he and the Twelve apostles would have included it in the kerygma of the gospel of Christ

As you have described your views here, believers who do not keep Shabbat have an "evil heart of unbelief that causes them to depart from the living God" Neither Jesus nor the Apostles taught that. This is instead, an inference drawn on the basis of your own assumptions. If the Apostles had believed the way you do, they would have proclaimed keeping Shabbat as an essential part of the gospel of salvation.

However, when we actually read even the scriptures you cite as your references, an entirely different picture emerges:
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,
(Hebrews 3:12-14)
The "beginning of our confidence" is the assurance we had when we first believed. We hold onto this confidence by continuing to believe to the very end of our lives. Our "confidence" is ultimately based on WHAT HE DID FOR US on the cross not our belief that we will continue to keep Shabbat.
 
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The law of Moses is the laws Moses wrote in a book that was outside the ark of God's covenant. Deu31:24-26

The law of God is the laws God wrote Exo31:18 , not Moses, not even Moses took credit for them Exo32:18 so how can one u claim they are not God's when God our Maker said they are Exo20:6 they predate Moses Exo20:11. Without understanding these two basic principles of the laws will sadly misunderstand the NT. The will confuse the law of handwritten ordinances that Moses wrote that was placed beside the ark as a witness against thee with the law of God that God wrote that is perfect converting the soul that stay holy, just and good Rom7:12 confusing the two will end up setting aside the law and will of God and we may end up hearing this at His seconding coming Mat7:21-23
 
Our Bibles plainly explain the differences between the law of God and law of Moses. God's never changed what is sin and it never will, breaking the law of God is sin 1John3:4 OT and NT James2:11 Mat5:19-30 the difference is how we go about forgiveness of sins because in the law of Moses the blood of animal could never forgive the sins for breaking the law of God why Jesus had to Sacrifice Himself Heb10:1-10 People keep elevating man over God they do that with Moses and the law and do it with Paul and the law.
 
Just read the following verse - it's right there: their faith was obtained from God (Jesus Christ). God does not give it to everyone so those whom He does give it to, had to have been given grace first - they certainly couldn't have had faith first if faith had to be obtained from God from His righteousness.

[2Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Again you cite a proof-text and share a problematic interpretation, because it contradicts the many verses I cited regarding divine omnilove (John 3:16, 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4), Christ's death (Rom. 5:6-8, Matt. 5:44 &48), God's justness (2Thes. 1:6a, cf. Rom. 3:25-26 & 9:14, Deut. 32:4, Psa. 36:6, Luke 11:42, Rev. 15:3) and fairness or impartiality (Joel 2:13, Rom. 2:11, Eph. 6:9, Col. 3:25, 1Pet. 1:17).

2Pet. 1:1 merely says some obtained faith, but it does not say God forced them to believe, and the context provided by these passages indicate that the correct understanding is that God offers faith to all, because He is fair/righteous/just and loves everyone, but some (beginning with A&E) choose to place it in Satan/be His enemies.

Regarding "Where did I use the word "earn"? I have never "insisted" that it be "earned", and I don't know where you got that from.":
Where did I say you insisted salvation be earned? I said you view accepting God's gift of salvation via faith as earning it, and I compared it to giving and opening physical gifts, noting that accepting a gift is not working to merit it.

I got this understanding of your view from you saying "having to accept grace in order to receive it, makes the receiving of it man's work and thereby directly contradicts the doctrine of grace", to which I say it only contradicts your wrong understanding.

Yes, "Grace is given by God as a free gift to those whom He had chosen to salvation by His divine prerogative as Savior", and those He chooses are those who choose to satisfy His condition/stipulation to repent of wrong and cooperate with His will for them to accept Jesus as Messiah (Acts 16:30-31, etc.). Why do you kick against the goad of this truth?! Is it because you refuse to repent of not accepting the teaching of GW I cited?
 
Again you cite a proof-text and share a problematic interpretation, because it contradicts the many verses I cited regarding divine omnilove (John 3:16, 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4), Christ's death (Rom. 5:6-8, Matt. 5:44 &48), God's justness (2Thes. 1:6a, cf. Rom. 3:25-26 & 9:14, Deut. 32:4, Psa. 36:6, Luke 11:42, Rev. 15:3) and fairness or impartiality (Joel 2:13, Rom. 2:11, Eph. 6:9, Col. 3:25, 1Pet. 1:17).

2Pet. 1:1 merely says some obtained faith, but it does not say God forced them to believe, and the context provided by these passages indicate that the correct understanding is that God offers faith to all, because He is fair/righteous/just and loves everyone, but some (beginning with A&E) choose to place it in Satan/be His enemies.

Regarding "Where did I use the word "earn"? I have never "insisted" that it be "earned", and I don't know where you got that from.":
Where did I say you insisted salvation be earned? I said you view accepting God's gift of salvation via faith as earning it, and I compared it to giving and opening physical gifts, noting that accepting a gift is not working to merit it.

I got this understanding of your view from you saying "having to accept grace in order to receive it, makes the receiving of it man's work and thereby directly contradicts the doctrine of grace", to which I say it only contradicts your wrong understanding.

Yes, "Grace is given by God as a free gift to those whom He had chosen to salvation by His divine prerogative as Savior", and those He chooses are those who choose to satisfy His condition/stipulation to repent of wrong and cooperate with His will for them to accept Jesus as Messiah (Acts 16:30-31, etc.). Why do you kick against the goad of this truth?! Is it because you refuse to repent of not accepting the teaching of GW I cited?

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Christ came to fulfill the OC/OT, we are now under the NC/ NT.

*-"For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God."
Hebrews 7:18-19 NKJV

-"by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant. Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them."
Hebrews 7:22-25 NKJV

-"For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever."
Hebrews 7:26-28 NKJV

*-"But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second."
Hebrews 8:6-7 NKJV

-"In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away."
Hebrews 8:13 NKJV

*-"And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives."
Hebrews 9:15-17 NKJV

*-"then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first that He may establish the second."
Hebrews 10:9 NKJV
 
The law of Moses is the laws Moses wrote in a book that was outside the ark of God's covenant. Deu31:24-26

The law of God is the laws God wrote Exo31:18 , not Moses, not even Moses took credit for them Exo32:18 so how can one u claim they are not God's when God our Maker said they are Exo20:6 they predate Moses Exo20:11. Without understanding these two basic principles of the laws will sadly misunderstand the NT. The will confuse the law of handwritten ordinances that Moses wrote that was placed beside the ark as a witness against thee with the law of God that God wrote that is perfect converting the soul that stay holy, just and good Rom7:12 confusing the two will end up setting aside the law and will of God and we may end up hearing this at His seconding coming Mat7:21-23

You posit that there are "...two basic principles of the laws and that those who do not understand these principles will "sadly misunderstand the NT "
At the same time, you do not explain clearly what these "two principles of the laws" are. You seem to think it is highly important to distinguish between the prohibitions of God that were "written on the tablets of stone" and all the other laws He either stated audibly or He inspired men to write on scrolls of papyri. Does the MEDIUM upon which laws are written make some commands more authoritative than others? Perhaps you think that those who are "enlightened" will accept what you say "by faith?" It seems to me your whole idea of how to interpret the word is arbitrary like that of the Gnostics.

I believer that the Ten Commandments (that were written on tablets of stone) did not encompass the entirety of God's expectations for mankind. If they had been comprehensive and exhaustive then Moses would not have had to add other written commands. Even then we need the Holy Spirit to give us understanding.
. 13However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.…
(John 16:13-14)

I am not arguing that the behaviors God forbids in the Ten Commandments are not sin. They are; however, Jesus who is the mediator of the NEW and BETTER covenant has shown us that our sin is far deeper than anything we do. You appear to be trying to reduce the depths of our depravity by drawing a distinction between written ordinances he tablets of Law which were in the arc. Does God or any prophet make such a distinction? No, truths of moral law as other truths are unified whether it was recorded on stone tablets or on scrolls of papyrus. The TRUTH is what is important not the media upon which it was recorded. Besides that, your point is moot since we no longer have the Arc the original stone tables of or the scrolls. What we have now is only the written word of God
 
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You posit that there are "...two basic principles of the laws and that those who do not understand these principles will "sadly misunderstand the NT "
At the same time, you do not explain clearly what these "two principles of the laws" are. You seem to think it is highly important to distinguish between the prohibitions of God that were "written on the tablets of stone" and all the other laws He either stated audibly or He inspired men to write on scrolls of papyri. Does the MEDIUM upon which laws are written make some commands more authoritative than others? Perhaps you think that those who are "enlightened" will accept what you say "by faith?" It seems to me your whole idea of how to interpret the word is arbitrary like that of the Gnostics.

I believer that the Ten Commandments (that were written on tablets of stone) did not encompass the entirety of God's expectations for mankind. If they had been comprehensive and exhaustive then Moses would not have had to add other written commands. Even then we need the Holy Spirit to give us understanding.
. 13However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.…
(John 16:13-14)

I am not arguing that the behaviors God forbids in the Ten Commandments are not sin. They are; however, Jesus who is the mediator of the NEW and BETTER covenant has shown us that our sin is far deeper than anything we do. You appear to be trying to reduce the depths of our depravity by drawing a distinction between written ordinances he tablets of Law which were in the arc. Does God or any prophet make such a distinction? No, truths of moral law as other truths are unified whether it was recorded on stone tablets or on scrolls of papyrus. The TRUTH is what is important not the media upon which it was recorded. Besides that, your point is moot since we no longer have the Arc the original stone tables of or the scrolls. What we have now is only the written word of God

The law of God is a stand alone unit

Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Its sin from breaking this law that His blood atones for our sins- no more laws were added - its the only law under the mercy seat of God. Exo25:21 Rev15:5 Rev 11:19 They are very broad Psa 119:96 just as Jesus demonstrated Mat5:19-30

The law of Moses was added because of sin Gal3:19 until the Seed Dan9:27 Heb10:1-10

Its all right in our Bibles the issue is not that God did not make Himself clear- He came down from heaven after all and personally wrote it out Exo31:18 Exo32:16 , the issue is our unbelief in His word Exo20:6 John14:15
 
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-"For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."
John 1:17 NKJV

-"having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross."
Colossians 2:14 NKJV

-"So Moses wrote this law and delivered it to the priests, the sons of Levi, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel. And Moses commanded them, saying: "At the end of every seven years, at the appointed time in the year of release, at the Feast of Tabernacles, when all Israel comes to appear before the Lord your God in the place which He chooses, you shall read this law before all Israel in their hearing."
Deuteronomy 31:9-11 NKJV
 
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Our Bibles plainly explain the differences between the law of God and law of Moses. God's never changed what is sin and it never will, breaking the law of God is sin 1John3:4 OT and NT James2:11 Mat5:19-30 the difference is how we go about forgiveness of sins because in the law of Moses the blood of animal could never forgive the sins for breaking the law of God why Jesus had to Sacrifice Himself Heb10:1-10 People keep elevating man over God they do that with Moses and the law and do it with Paul and the law.

Now you are changing direction. I have already proven that the Law of Moses (under the Old Covenant) was regarded as the LAW OF GOD. It follows that not obeying the [universal] moral law is sin. However, ALL the practices and traditions of the Old Covenant are no longer required under the NEW. Jesus revealed this when He said "You have heard it said (by teachers of the Old Covenant) BUT I SAY.
What He commanded included the moral essence of the OLD while elevating it to an entirely new level.