Loss of salvation???
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True. Come to think of it, with regard to the meaning of "inspired," the red letters are indicative of those words that God, Himself, "breathed out."
These many people in Matthew 7:22-23 also believed their "alleged" obedience was pleasing to Jesus yet they found out the hard way that was not the case. I'm yet to hear a clear and concise presentation of the gospel from your group.
Are you a person that can digest information?
I said I LISTEN TO AND HEAR THE RED LETTERS IN THE NT.
In reply to YOUR insinuation that I obey some guy that is called a pastor.
IOW, Musicmaster....
MY PASTOR IS JESUS.
YOU took my statement to mean that I do not believe the rest of scripture is inspired.
Proof positive that....
You REALLY DO ASSUME too much sir.
This is why I hesitate to converse with you.
Sometimes I make the mistake of doing so.
Yes.
I must say that it's rather strange that a person making the statement that we are to obey God.....
AFTER we are saved....
and that we MUST obey Him....
gets pushback from other "Christians".
Most strange indeed.
Ah.....
So you DO believe there are TWO groups:
One that states that we are to OBEY GOD and, indeed MUST obey Him.
and the other group -to which YOU belong -
that muddies the waters in order to be able to believe that we ARE NOT REQUIRED TO OBEY God.
You need something "concise" in order to know that God must be obeyed???
Most strange indeed.
And you think there are TWO gospels?
You've been reading too much of the master of music's posts.
You're supposedly a Christian person.
You think you know some theology.
Sort out what the other member stated.
IF you can due to your strange beleif system.
Are you talking about me?
Maybe I really should read each and every post in a thread.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time.
IF you ARE speaking about ME...
please post where I "lied".
Thanks.
You obey God BillG?
Then please encourage other persons to obey Him,,,
it is your duty.
And I don't mean the wishy washy kind of obedience....
it states that we obey because WE WANT TO.
Must we?
Or only if we want to??
Jesus said we MUST.
What say YOU?
Jesus said that those that do not bear fruit will be cut off.
I do believe He means that we MUST obey.
John 15:2
2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away;
That's pot kettle black.
You are quick to assume something about others along'with @2ndTimeIsTheCharm
Analogies are dumb...know why?
Most persons either don't understand them
or
Don't know how to use them.
They're a waste of time.
I'm pretty tired of hearing about you and your wife.
Other men have wives you know.
Other men treat their wives very well.
WHAT does that have to do with anythnig??
And you never did reply to my question about your wife and your marrige.
Wonder why?
Seen any good looking women lately?
Any thoughts come to mind?
Why didn't you go ahead to engage?
Maybe because you MUST NOT?
Or
Maybe you're not human and have NO THOUGHTS.
Do I need to spell it out even more?
Do you comprehend anything?
YOU MUST BE FAITHFUL TO YOUR WIFE.
WE MUST OBEY GOD.
OR
there are consequences.
I'm not wasting my time with you. What I've said should be written on your heart. If I thought that you are open to truth, I would take time to respond.
I don't want to be like you either.
You accuse and lie about people you don't even know.
You accuse me of not obeying God and you don't even know me.
I would call someone Godly who lies about people and makes false accusations and slander.
That's you.
Goodbye.
Sorry it should be
I would not call someone Godly who lies about people and makes false accusations and slander.
You really do need to learn how to use vereses that are condusive to your stated purpose.
You picked 1 John 3:7-10 ??!!
You picked James 3:1 ??!!
Bad choices.
1 John 3:7-20
7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil [c]has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
9 No one who is [d]born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is [e]born of God.
10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: [f]anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
What does it say?
1. We should not be deceived by those who practice lawlessness. Verse 4
2. Those who practice righteousness are righteous. Notice the sequence.....we PRACTICE....we ARE.
3. We must be righteous as God is righteous.
4. If we practice sin...lawlessness (Matthew 7)....disobedience...are not of God.
5. Those who are born of God do NOT practice sin/lawlessness....which is disobedience.
6. We are not of God if we do NOT PRACTICE RIGHEOUSNESS.
To be righteous .... RIGHT WITH GOD.....we MUST OBEY God.
Your verse
James 3:1
3 Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a [a]stricter judgment.
Do YOU teach the absolute necessity of obeying God?
THAT is what you're SUPPOSSED to be teaching.
HOW can we know you obey God?
You're one of those that states that we obey IF WE WANT TO.
Or something or other about wanting to.
So, maybe you DON'T WANT to stop stealing?
Maybe you don't WANT TO stop lieing?
If you stated that we MUST obey God..
we would be sure that you believe that we MUST obey God....
and not just because, willy nilly, WE WANT TO.
You are not teaching what Jesus taught.
Please try to stick to scripture.
Your comments are just OPINION.
And PLEASE do post what I've ASSUMED...since it's something I do not do.
please fine and post where I state we can obey if we want to.
If you cannot find it then apologies and stop assuming what you think I am saying.
If you find it I will clarify.