Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

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Hebrews 9:28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

And when this day comes, we will be like the unblemished lambs whose sins have been forgiven 4 days before Passover
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
Incorrect x 2; respectfully Disagree X 2, Because Of God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

Prophecy ( Earthly ):

1) The 'bride', Israel has to "make herself ready" (Rev_19:7-8 AV) in The Great Tribulation:


No, and:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery ( Heavenly! ):

2) All of The Body Of Christ ( the "One New man" [ Not transgender! ] Eph_2:15 AV),
Must Be "Caught Up" In God's Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture} In Order For​
"Every man" To Be Judged At The Judgment Seat Of Christ ( 1Co_3:8-15 AV) , ​
In Heaven!​

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

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So, in your mind, your limited knowledge "rightly divides".
You leave out EVERYTING concerning the bride of Christ, then , attempt to "rightly divide".
You need to put omitted verses back on the table.
Ephesians 5:25–32 – Bride of Christ
  1. Husbands, love your wives,
as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
  1. that he might make her holy, cleansing her by the washing of water through the word,
  2. that he might present to himself the church, in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing,
that she might be holy and without blemish.

  1. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it,
just as Christ does the church,
  1. because we are members of his body.
  2. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother
and hold fast to his wife,
and the two shall become one flesh.”
  1. This mystery is profound,
and I speak with reference to Christ and the church.

The last supper is a VIVID, VIVID picture of the Jewish betrothal of the jewish marriage.

In the book of Ruth, BOAZ , representing Jesus, Marrys the gentile Ruth , representing the church, and Naomi carries on HER LINEAGE through the CHILD OF RUTH AND BOAZ.

Note that the bride and wife is Gentile.

Now ...just maybe you can take a RIGHTLY DIVIDED LOOK AT REV 19.


BTW....Gomer , in Hosea REPRESENTS THE JEWISH WIFE.
GOMER IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
GODS COVENANT ISRAEL.
 
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Psalm1 said:
So, in your mind, your limited knowledge "rightly divides".
You leave out EVERYTING concerning the bride of Christ, then , attempt to "rightly divide".
You need to put omitted verses back on the table.
Ephesians 5:25–32 – Bride of Christ
  1. Husbands, love your wives,
as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
  1. that he might make her holy, cleansing her by the washing of water through the word,
  2. that he might present to himself the church, in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing,
that she might be holy and without blemish.

  1. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it,
just as Christ does the church,
  1. because we are members of his body.
  2. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother
and hold fast to his wife,
and the two shall become one flesh.”
  1. This mystery is profound,
and I speak with reference to Christ and the church.

The last supper is a VIVID, VIVID picture of the Jewish betrothal of the jewish marriage.

In the book of Ruth, BOAZ , representing Jesus, Marrys the gentile Ruth , representing the church, and Naomi carries on HER LINEAGE through the CHILD OF RUTH AND BOAZ.

Note that the bride and wife is Gentile.

Now ...just maybe you can take a RIGHTLY DIVIDED LOOK AT REV 19.


BTW....Gomer , in Hosea REPRESENTS THE JEWISH WIFE.
GOMER IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
GODS COVENANT ISRAEL.
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Well said.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
God let people believe whatever they want before, even when they misunderstood Him for the longest time.

What counts is how you recover from your misunderstanding and get on God's program as soon as you realize it.

You'll remember all my posts to you when the antichrist arrives. The main thing is to not panic and stick close to Jesus.


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The antichrist will be revealed pre rapture.
The bible says it.
Both sides believe it.

It is a fact he will be revealed for a short time before the takes power.
During that time of us recognizing him, prepower, the rapture will occur.

That lines up like glove with the pretrib rapture.
 
Omegatime said:
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Story of the 10 virgins I believe takes place inside the Tribulation. The five foolish virgins went to see what the antichrist had to offer IMO.
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The setting is pretrib, as are all rapture verses.
The bride went out....to meet.....the groom
The bride was watching pretrib.(went out to meet)
The groom delayed...(WHERE WE ARE NOW)

SOME believers have oil and fire
Some do not....Again...where we are now.

(improper to make the AMOUT OF OIL a salvation issue)

Then they all are warned ahead of the Grooms arrival.
The foolish christians scramble.
The wise simple do what they do.

The wise who helped them and carried those carnal believers in the past, had no time for their foolishness. So the carnal Christians ran away to get caught up on oil. ( the Holy Spirit fire that carnal Christian fail to invest in)
....because the groom was right at the door.....time ran out.

That is the difference.

That is the analogy.
 
Psalm1 said:
The antichrist will be revealed pre rapture.
The bible says it.
Both sides believe it.

It is a fact he will be revealed for a short time before the takes power.
During that time of us recognizing him, prepower, the rapture will occur.

That lines up like glove with the pretrib rapture.
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How long are you going to wait for the rapture after the antichrist is revealed?

Until after the great tribulation?


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
How long are you going to wait for the rapture after the antichrist is revealed?

Until after the great tribulation?


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It could even be that all believers are rounded up into facilities .
Huge open air facilities.

Then postribbers will scold us pretribbers and do what you are doing.

"Ha ha ha....where is your stupid pretrib rapture????"
Then, while in those facilities, the bride groom comes.

ALL OF THAT PICTURE IS A PRETRIB RAPTURE.

Arrested and put in a facility.
Pretrib.
Pre mass beheading.

Postribbers take offense at the notion that not all the church is raptured..

But if you look at it closely, those left behind and martyred, get the MARTYRS REWARD.
THE HIGHEST REWARD.
GOD Thinks of everything.

The rapture is a faith dynamic, and a oil dynamic.

We know from Matt 24 and 25 half the church is left behind.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Pre-trib rapture must happen FIRST. Your use of scripture won't matter if it doesn't.


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Must happen AFTER the the AC is revealed.
The AC is revealed pretrib.
The word "revealed" is in question.
Obama was revealed BEFORE he took power.
The AC is REVEALED before he takes power.

So, basically , with "revealed", that actually implies and authenticated a pretrib rapture.

Postrib doctrine says he is in power for 7 years...then the second coming on white horses and a turn rapture back to earth.

So postribbers are saying the AC is revealed at the white horses?
After years in power, he is revealed?
 
Psalm1 said:
Must happen AFTER the the AC is revealed.
The AC is revealed pretrib.
The word "revealed" is in question.
Obama was revealed BEFORE he took power.
The AC is REVEALED before he takes power.

So, basically , with "revealed", that actually implies and authenticated a pretrib rapture.

Postrib doctrine says he is in power for 7 years...then the second coming on white horses and a turn rapture back to earth.

So postribbers are saying the AC is revealed at the white horses?
After years in power, he is revealed?
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YOU'RE the one making all these assumptions, not post-trib believers.

Your pre-trib false doctrine is so shaky that you have to lie to others about what post-trib believers believe.


Post-trib is simple - rapture happens AFTER the GT, not after the ac is revealed.

So go ahead. Keep waiting for pre-trib rapture. It won't happen, even after the ac is revealed.

And you won't be able to say you were right when the rapture happens AFTER the GT, because THAT is the post-trib rapture.


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