Loss of salvation???

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Virtually every Christian gets dunked.

Hard to say how many actually trust in Christ ALONE........My money is on Christ alone, not my dunking.

Isn't it trusting JESUS that HE removes our sins when we get baptized in HIS name?
 
Isn't it trusting JESUS that HE removes our sins when we get baptized in HIS name?
It is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. Not Jesus.

The calvies and the Armins never say........THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.......Unless they are put under the gun or prompted.

Get dunked all you want "in Jesus name." Until one figures out He is The Lord Jesus Christ......it's just swimming.
 
Isn't it trusting JESUS that HE removes our sins when we get baptized in HIS name?


1 Jn 1:7 ... and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.


The context of this verse, and all of its cross references, speak of The Light, not the water.
 
Thanks for sharing, but that wasn't the question. Certainly Jesus knew that all men have a sinful nature. The question was: did He know of their particular frailties and sins?

This was your question ........

"How come all means every single person in some cases but means mankind as a whole in other cases?"

Because it all depends upon the context.

Because of who the comment is intended for,
 
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This was your question ........

"How come all means every single person in some cases but means mankind as a whole in other cases?"

Because it all depends upon the context.

Because of who the comment is intended for,
While I agree that context is important, most people aren't considering context. Rather, they are simply interpreting passages to agree with what they already believe.
 
Thanks for sharing, but that wasn't the question. Certainly Jesus knew that all men have a sinful nature. The question was: did He know of their particular frailties and sins?

Each sin pierced Him while he hung on the Cross.
That Father knows each and every sin you will commit - and have committed.

During this period on the Cross Jesus was crying out in agony - -


And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?”
that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”
Matthew 27:46

While on the Cross the Father poured unto Jesus every single sin of mankind.
Not one single sin went unscathed by God's justice!
 
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While I agree that context is important, most people aren't considering context. Rather, they are simply interpreting passages to agree with what they already believe.

You see something wrong with doing it that way?
 
Each sin pierced Him while he hung on the Cross.
That Father knows each and every sin you will commit - and have committed.

During this period on the Cross Jesus was crying out in agony - -


And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?”
that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”
Matthew 27:46

While on the Cross the Father poured unto Jesus every single sin of mankind.
Not one single sin went unscathed by God's justice!
The question was what He knew in John 2.
 
The question was what He knew in John 2.
Such as?

John 2​
On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.”
“Woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”
His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.
Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim.
Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.”
They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”
What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
After this he went down to Capernaum with his mother and brothers and his disciples. There they stayed for a few days.
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.”
The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.

:unsure: ......... The question was what He knew in John 2?



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Such as?

John 2​
On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.”
“Woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”
His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.
Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim.
Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.”
They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”
What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
After this he went down to Capernaum with his mother and brothers and his disciples. There they stayed for a few days.
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.”
The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.

:unsure: ......... The question was what He knew in John 2?



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The question was what He knew concerning what was in all men.

At least make an attempt to follow discussions.
 
The question was what He knew concerning what was in all men.

At least make an attempt to follow discussions.


Well I had been so busy studying the Millennium, and have been trying very hard to see your concept as being valid.
For I know you are never wrong.

Also.. The Rapture? I keep seeing it all wrong. Because I know what you told me. What you said it is must be right, too.

So, why get myself bogged down with another deep insight of yours?
When I can not reconcile what you showed me with the other two?
Be patient with me. You are way too deep for me.
 
Well I had been so busy studying the Millennium, and have been trying very hard to see your concept as being valid.
For I know you are never wrong.

Also.. The Rapture? I keep seeing it all wrong. Because I know what you told me. What you said it is must be right, too.

So, why get myself bogged down with another deep insight of yours?
When I can not reconcile what you showed me with the other two?
Be patient with me. You are way too deep for me.
You know, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. You can do better.

And if you really want to understand eschatology, you will first have to understand the relationship between the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation.
 
Why should I bother? Surely you will see the error and jump in to make a correction.
I was talking about being on guard against one's own tendency to do this. It's a personal scrutiny; not a scrutiny of others.
 
You know, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. You can do better.

And if you really want to understand eschatology, you will first have to understand the relationship between the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation.

Says the man who tells me the Millennium began in the first century? ....

Says the man who told me the Rapture is not what many in the church believe it to be?
That getting caught up in the clouds and being given our glorified bodies is not a true doctrine.


1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel
and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and
are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be
with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.



1 Corinthians 15:51-52


Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
 
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