Who is Elihu?

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pinebeach said:
nummmm...I don't find that. where do you find that?
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Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
Job 27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live.
 
tttallison said:
Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
Job 27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live.
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Did Job somewhere state his righteousness is more than God's. No he did not. Job's 'friends were heaping coals on his head. Why was the devil seeking to destroy Job in the first place? Because God Himself said this: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[a] also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” 8 And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?”

So no, even though Job was reprimanded by God, questionning what or why is not making someone = to the devil. Job maintained his innocence which, apparently, even God pointeds out.

What's your point anyway? You appear to be 'teaching' but this is a platform for discussion. These days I just kinda go 'ugh' with all the 'teachers' hanging around here. Seems most just like to tell you how wrong you are and how right they are. No thanks. I don't think you have looked at the book of Job very carefully and no, it does not fit neatly into far too many people's opinions.
 
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PennEd said:
Completely baseless accusation against Job.

You know who accuses the brethren?
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If our narrative does not comply with scripture we should abandon it.

Job 1:6-7 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."

Observe how Satan is free to witness the high things and roams throughout the earth. And now we can read what God said about the piercing crooked serpent in chapter 41.

Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Who else in the bible besides Satan could you apply this to. Who is the king over all the children of pride, and who else observes all high things?

God asked Job if he was going to take Satan for a servant forever
 
PennEd said:
Where the heck are you getting this nonsense from?

This is some seriously warped theology.
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It should be obvious that it is coming from the bible. I do not consider the bible to be nonsense.

Could it just be that many of the verses in Job do not align with the accepted narrative of Job by academia?
 
PennEd said:
Where the heck are you getting this nonsense from?

This is some seriously warped theology.
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Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Satan is described as a dragon and a serpent in Revelation 20:2

Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

In Isaiah 27:1 Leviathan is described as a serpent and a dragon. One can comfortable assume that Leviathan is Satan.

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Most do not have a problem accepting the serpent in Genesis 3 to be Satan.

So why would anyone have a problem accepting the serpent and dragon called Leviathan as Satan? It logically fits. God Introduces Satan in chapter one of Job as beholding all high things. We are told that Leviathan beholds all high things in chapter 41, so why should we be slow to accept Leviathan as Satan? We don't have a problem accepting the serpent in the garden as Satan. Is it because the accepted narrative of Job would not fit?

Job 41:34 "He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride."
Leviathan beholds all high things and is king over all the children of pride.

Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

God is asking Job if he will take Leviathan, alias Satan, as a servant forever. So I ask you, is this offensive to those who place Job on Holy ground?
 
tttallison said:
It should be obvious that it is coming from the bible. I do not consider the bible to be nonsense.
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I don’t know what Bible you have, but NOWHERE does God ask Job if he’s going to follow Satan.

You severely twisted and/or altered Scripture to make that claim.

You need to repent of accusing Job and altering Scripture.

You should NOT be leading a small group.
 
PennEd said:
I don’t know what Bible you have, but NOWHERE does God ask Job if he’s going to follow Satan.

You severely twisted and/or altered Scripture to make that claim.

You need to repent of accusing Job and altering Scripture.

You should NOT be leading a small group.
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Please explain why Leviathan cannot possibly represent Satan.

What small group?
 
tttallison said:
Can you explain to me why the following verse is not God asking Job if he is going to take Satan for a servant forever?

Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
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God has referred to men as dogs, but we don't assume that each reference to dogs in the bible is actually speaking about men, so why should we assume this in reference to Satan? There's a verse about a child playing at the den of an asp. Should we assume he's playing on Satan's porch?
 
Mem said:
God has referred to men as dogs, but we don't assume that each reference to dogs in the bible is actually speaking about men, so why should we assume this in reference to Satan? There's a verse about a child playing at the den of an asp. Should we assume he's playing on Satan's porch?
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Who is God referring to when God says "He beholds all high things, He is king over all the children of pride"? Who is this person?
 
tttallison said:
Who is God referring to when God says "He beholds all high things, He is king over all the children of pride"? Who is this person?
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Paul said he was chief of sinners. Do you receive that as if he is our king?
 
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