The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[Dino246]

Being under the law. means being guilty of breaking the law and standing before God as a sinner

Being under the Law means that your relationship with God is wholly dependent on your obedience to all of it.

Acts 13:39 Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

Romans 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

Romans 6:14-15 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

1 Corinthians 9:20-21 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.

Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

Galatians 3:23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.

Galatians 4:4-5 But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.

Galatians 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?


And, if that all were not convincing, there's the trump card:

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Biblically, God set the Sabbath on the seventh day (Saturday) at Creation (Genesis 2:2–3) and codified it in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8–11). In the book of Acts, the apostles consistently observed the Sabbath on Saturday: Paul customarily went to the synagogue on the Sabbath (Acts 13:14, 13:42–44, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4). At the same time, believers also gathered on the first day of the week (Sunday), mainly to break bread and commemorate Christ’s resurrection (Acts 20:7; cf. 1 Corinthians 16:2). This shows a transitional period where Saturday Sabbath observance continued, while Sunday gatherings gradually developed alongside it.

Blessings!

Dear friend,

I will have to point out Acts 20:7 was a one time meeting, Paul was leaving the next day (Sunday) for a long mission trip they came together to break bread or have a meal on the evening of the first day which is what we call Saturday night. It doesn;t say anything about them transferring the sanctification of Sabbath to Sunday, only God can do this.

In 1 Cor 16:2 this was a collection for needy at home, it was a one time collection. It doesn;t say anything about transferring the sanctification from Sabbath to Sunday.

I go to church every Sabbath or at least try to when I am able, but I also do things on other days of the week as well, as did the apostles. There is not one verse that says the apostles came together for worship every first day or its a new commandment of God or new day of worship. The apostles did not have that kind of authority, they were servants of God, not His corrector. I agree with you on a lot, but Sunday being kept as the new Sabbath was after Scripture just as it was predicted. Acts 20:29 Dan7:25

God is calling us back to worship Him Rev14:7 who made the heavens and earth our Creator Exo20:11 we cannot serve two masters.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Biblically, God set the Sabbath on the seventh day (Saturday) at Creation (Genesis 2:2–3) and codified it in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8–11). In the book of Acts, the apostles consistently observed the Sabbath on Saturday: Paul customarily went to the synagogue on the Sabbath (Acts 13:14, 13:42–44, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4). At the same time, believers also gathered on the first day of the week (Sunday), mainly to break bread and commemorate Christ’s resurrection (Acts 20:7; cf. 1 Corinthians 16:2). This shows a transitional period where Saturday Sabbath observance continued, while Sunday gatherings gradually developed alongside it.

Historically, the early church did not immediately replace the Sabbath with Sunday. Many Jewish Christians continued keeping the Sabbath for centuries. The shift toward Sunday as the primary day of worship developed gradually, especially among Gentile Christians, and was later reinforced by church leaders and imperial authority. While Clement of Rome wrote very early (late 1st century), he did not officially change the Sabbath; rather, later writers like Justin Martyr (2nd century) describe Sunday worship, and the first civil law enforcing Sunday observance was issued by Emperor Constantine in AD 321. So, Scripture shows Saturday as God’s Sabbath, Acts shows both days being observed, and history explains how Sunday eventually became dominant in mainstream Christianity. However I know that God does not change and What he set for us ( Saturday) still and will remain. Who has the authority to change God's law? Absolutely no one, I am certain of this. Jesus never changer it, Paul never did. some will argue about the sabbaths Paul spoke about that were in reality extra sabbath(S) included in the Levetical Laws with feast days...that law is no more. Personally I see no problem observing both.

Blessings!

In truth, under the core terms of the new covenant, you would have to know in your heart and mind if you were living a life of ignoring what God places in the hearts and minds of believers

I'm going to ask God about it. I'm so used to keeping Sunday as the Sabbath and God hasn't said anything to me or the millions of other Christians through the centuries. Not even to the more godly and well-known among us!

I know the Sabbath is important to God, but I'm very curious why He seems to be fine with Sunday for Christians. I'll report back if He shows me anything in the Bible....

 

[vassal]

Christians have been using Sunday as the Sabbath for about 2,000 years though. Wouldn't you think God would have made it abundantly clear to us by now if it's wrong?

I forgot to answer the question.. Lol

Q:Wouldn't you think God would have made it abundantly clear to us by now if it's wrong?

Not necessarily. In Scripture, God often makes His will clear in His Word, not by immediate punishment or constant correction. Israel repeatedly misunderstood or neglected God’s commands despite clear instruction (Judges 21:25; Matthew 15:3), and Jesus Himself said that tradition can override God’s commandments if people allow it (Mark 7:7–9). The Sabbath was already clearly defined in the Ten Commandments as the seventh day, so God did not need to redefine it repeatedly—He had already spoken. we all have read it in our bibles his words are still there for us to find.

Also, God’s patience does not equal approval. Acts 17:30 says God “overlooked” times of ignorance but now calls people to truth. The absence of visible punishment does not mean something is right; otherwise many clearly sinful practices would be acceptable. The real question is not whether God has forcefully corrected everyone, but whether we are willing to follow what He has already revealed in Scripture once we see it.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

I'm going to ask God about it. I'm so used to keeping Sunday as the Sabbath and God hasn't said anything to me or the millions of other Christians through the centuries. Not even to the more godly and well-known among us!

I know the Sabbath is important to God, but I'm very curious why He seems to be fine with Sunday for Christians. I'll report back if He shows me anything in the Bible....

Just a suggestion, read every verse on the Sabbath in the Bible, I beleive will you will see a clear picture emerge.

That said, there are more than one Sabbath in the Bible which can be confusing. The annual sabbath(s) that can fall on any day of the week were added after sin and are always connected to animal sacrifices and offerings. God's Sabbath, the holy day of the Lord started at Creation before sin Exo20:11

Anyway pray on it and read God's word with an open heart.

God bless!

 

[vassal]

Dear friend,

I will have to point out Acts 20:7 was a one time meeting, Paul was leaving the next day (Sunday) for a long mission trip they came together to break bread or have a meal on the evening of the first day which is what we call Saturday night. It doesn;t say anything about them transferring the sanctification of Sabbath to Sunday, only God can do this.

In 1 Cor 16:2 this was a collection for needy at home, it was a one time collection. It doesn;t say anything about transferring the sanctification from Sabbath to Sunday.

I go to church every Sabbath or at least try to when I am able, but I also do things on other days of the week as well, as did the apostles. There is not one verse that says the apostles came together for worship every first day or its a new commandment of God or new day of worship. The apostles did not have that kind of authority, they were servants of God, not His corrector. I agree with you on a lot, but Sunday being kept as the new Sabbath was after Scripture just as it was predicted. Acts 20:29 Dan7:25

God is calling us back to worship Him Rev14:7 who made the heavens and earth our Creator Exo20:11 we cannot serve two masters.

I agree with what you wrote. It is true that only God can make a day holy, and Scripture shows that He sanctified the seventh day at creation and placed it in His commandments.

In Acts 20:7, you are right that the meeting was simple and linked to Paul leaving the next day. It does not say that the Sabbath was changed. It does not show a new holy day. many writings on the early church say they did break bread to homor jesus and hIs resurrection, is it true or not? Like you wrote, it only shows believers gathering, something they could do any day, just as Jesus taught that prayer, fellowship, and good works are not limited to one moment.

The same is true in 1 Corinthians 16:2. It was a collection to help others. The verse does not say that the first day became holy or that God replaced His own command. Giving to the poor is good every day, and Jesus taught us to remember the needy whenever we can. it is written nowhere in the bible that the sabbath day was changed.

We also see that the disciples continued to keep the Sabbath. Jesus Himself kept it and said that the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. He never told anyone to stop keeping the day His Father blessed. When Jesus rose, He told His followers to teach everything He commanded, not to change what God had already spoken.

It is true that after Scripture, new ideas appeared. Jesus warned that there would be changes after the apostles were gone. God calls us back to worship Him as Creator, and the words in Revelation 14:7 remind us of the same creation language found in Exodus 20:11. These two passages speak with one voice, pointing to the work of God in the beginning.

We cannot serve two masters. Jesus said this clearly. The safe path is to follow the words spoken by the Father, the Son, and the prophets. These are the words that never pass away.

Blessings.

 

[Gideon300]

I've been keeping it for many years, over 25, and it is a wonderful blessing.
The sabbath is so good, I look forward to it each week and it is great for my spiritual walk.. I spend time with my saviour and can see why God gave it to us.
It is a blessing.

I'm not sure where those 1000 rules are in the bible.. and the Jews made alot of rules that God never intended.

It's not a slavish fearful thing, it is a blessing. Maybe you should try it.

I attend church on Sunday. I also have fellowship at other times. I am blessed every moment of every day. I start every day with Jesus. I finish the day with Him also. if you want to observe the Friday/Saturday sabbath, fine. I do not. I see no reason to do so.

You won't find the 1000 rules in the Bible. However, you have to decide what it means to observe the sabbath. Some will not drive to church. Some won't cook or turn on the light switch because that is "work". I won't buy into that nonsense.

I had many conversations with an SDA guy that I met. He was talking about Sunday being a day to worship the sun god. OK, so it's better to worship Saturn instead? Or how about the Norse god Freya?

The purpose of the Sabbath was to give Israel, an agricultural society, a day of physical rest. It also was a day to worship God. Everyone should have a day off whatever their normal work is. It's not healthy to work seven days a week and that is proven by experience. In the military, I did that, 16 hours a day for three weeks. I had no choice. However, that particular day is not important. As a believer, Sunday is the most convenient. The only Saturday fellowships I know are SDA. I'm not putting myself under their false doctrines, thanks all the same.

 

[Gideon300]

There was more to keeping the sabbath day than simply resting on a certain day. Also notice who God was addressing and what covenant they were under.

Exodus 16:1 - And they journeyed from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt... 23 - Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord has said: Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning." 24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said, “Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.” 27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do YOU refuse to keep My commandments and My laws? 29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore, He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.”

Exodus 20:2 - I am the Lord your God, who brought YOU out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage... 8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exodus 31:14 - YOU shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.

Exodus 35:1 - Then Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said to them, “These are the words which the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for YOU, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. 3 You shall kindle no fire throughout your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”

Deuteronomy 5:1 - And Moses called all Israel, and said to them: “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them... 12 ‘Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it YOU shall do no work: YOU, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as YOU. 15 And remember that YOU were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought YOU out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore, the Lord your God commanded YOU to keep the Sabbath day.

Numbers 15:32 - Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

Cool, so you are stoning people metaphorically with your words. You keep living in the OT. Some of us prefer grace and truth. That includes me.

Do you still not see that believers are of the New Covenant? Or do you reject God's clear word in the New Testament. You insult the Spirit of grace by seeking to bring freed believers back under the law. Go join a Jewish forum. You will be right at home.

 

[mailmandan]

Cool, so you are stoning people metaphorically with your words. You keep living in the OT. Some of us prefer grace and truth. That includes me.

Do you still not see that believers are of the New Covenant? Or do you reject God's clear word in the New Testament. You insult the Spirit of grace by seeking to bring freed believers back under the law. Go join a Jewish forum. You will be right at home.

My point exactly for these misguided teachers of the law.

 

[mailmandan]

Good luck with observing the sabbath perfectly. There are about 1,000 rules that apply..

My point was there were multiple rules that apply. Even when Sabbatarians today set out to keep the sabbath, are they truly "keeping the sabbath" as it was kept under the old covenant of law by the Israelites? Simply resting on a particular day was only part of it.

 

[Undergrace1]

I forgot to answer the question.. Lol

Q:Wouldn't you think God would have made it abundantly clear to us by now if it's wrong?

Not necessarily. In Scripture, God often makes His will clear in His Word, not by immediate punishment or constant correction. Israel repeatedly misunderstood or neglected God’s commands despite clear instruction (Judges 21:25; Matthew 15:3), and Jesus Himself said that tradition can override God’s commandments if people allow it (Mark 7:7–9). The Sabbath was already clearly defined in the Ten Commandments as the seventh day, so God did not need to redefine it repeatedly—He had already spoken. we all have read it in our bibles his words are still there for us to find.

Also, God’s patience does not equal approval. Acts 17:30 says God “overlooked” times of ignorance but now calls people to truth. The absence of visible punishment does not mean something is right; otherwise many clearly sinful practices would be acceptable. The real question is not whether God has forcefully corrected everyone, but whether we are willing to follow what He has already revealed in Scripture once we see it.

The new covenant is very different from the old one. Under its core terms God writes applicable law in the mind and places it on the heart of believers. It is an internal law now, not an external law. An internal law will convict you of sin to a far greater degree than an external written down law. That law is now in your most inward parts, it is part of your spiritual dna in Christ. You cannot hide from it or be in ignorance of it.
Sin is the transgression of the law 1John3:4
Through the law we become conscious of sin Rom3:20
Therefore, if a law to observe a set Saturday sabbath was written in the minds and placed on the hearts of believers, you would have to have heartfelt consciousness of sin if you did not follow it.

 

[Undergrace1]

I'm going to ask God about it. I'm so used to keeping Sunday as the Sabbath and God hasn't said anything to me or the millions of other Christians through the centuries. Not even to the more godly and well-known among us!

I know the Sabbath is important to God, but I'm very curious why He seems to be fine with Sunday for Christians. I'll report back if He shows me anything in the Bible....

The new covenant is very different from the old one. Under its core terms God writes applicable law in the mind and places it on the heart of believers. It is an internal law now, not an external law. An internal law will convict you of sin to a far greater degree than an external written down law. That law is now in your most inward parts, it is part of your spiritual dna in Christ. You cannot hide from it or be in ignorance of it.
Sin is the transgression of the law 1John3:4
Through the law we become conscious of sin Rom3:20
Therefore, if a law to observe a set Saturday sabbath was written in the minds and placed on the hearts of believers, you would have to have heartfelt consciousness of sin if you did not follow it. Trust the law within you, for that is where the law now is.
People here who are telling you, you must observe a set Saturday sabbath also believe you must avoid the levitical unclean foods. Paul twice in Rom ch14 states ALL(ALL) food is clean

God told Moses the Israelites were a stiff necked heathen people who would soon desert him when they reached the promised land. It is not surprising then they were instructed to set aside one day a week to meditate on God’s goodness and kindness to them. But they had to be instructed to do it.
Under the new covenant, our hearts have been softened, we have the indwelling Holy Spirit. We have been born again of the spirit and are new creations. Every single day born again Christians instinctively meditate on God’s kindness to them by sending His son to die for them, and every day, we are grateful for it.
The spiritual intent of the fourth commandment is upheld in Christians today seven days a week.

 

[Gideon300]

My point was there were multiple rules that apply. Even when Sabbatarians today set out to keep the sabbath, are they truly "keeping the sabbath" as it was kept under the old covenant of law by the Israelites? Simply resting on a particular day was only part of it.

Sure. So what? It's irrelevant for today. No one can keep the law of Moses. There is no tabernacle, no separate priesthood, no Levites, no sacrifice, no altar etc. God allowed the temple to be destroyed for a reason. It is precisely to make it impossible to follow the Law of Moses.

 

[TMS]

Yeah I get that you don't understand what the new law of God is.

Why would the 10 commandments become old.. ?
A perfect eternal God wrote them and the principles of love have not changed over time. God's moral principles do not go out of date. God's perfect law has not changed.

 

[Gideon300]

I'm going to ask God about it. I'm so used to keeping Sunday as the Sabbath and God hasn't said anything to me or the millions of other Christians through the centuries. Not even to the more godly and well-known among us!

I know the Sabbath is important to God, but I'm very curious why He seems to be fine with Sunday for Christians. I'll report back if He shows me anything in the Bible....

Make sure that you read the New Testament. See if you can find a reference to keeping the Sabbath on a Saturday. Also read Acts 15 and Peter's response to those who would put believers under the law again.

 

[Undergrace1]

Make sure that you read the New Testament. See if you can find a reference to keeping the Sabbath on a Saturday. Also read Acts 15 and Peter's response to those who would put believers under the law again.

Acts 15 is interesting, the people who insist you observe a set Saturday sabbath also say you must avoid the levitical unclean foods. The leaders of the church, including Peter, James and Paul met in that chapter to decide which of the mosaic laws gentiles be asked to follow,. Four were mentoined, three of which it is widely believe were given to bring unity at the meeting, avoiding the levitical unclean foods was not one of them. Therefore, if the people are correct who say that law is still applicable, it is an indisputable fact the leaders of the first century church gave gentile converts a licence to sin

 

[Gideon300]

Why would the 10 commandments become old.. ?
A perfect eternal God wrote them and the principles of love have not changed over time. God's moral principles do not go out of date. God's perfect law has not changed.

It's simple and the Bible tells us exactly why. The law is a shadow, obsolete and has one purpose. it is intended to lead us to Christ. Now if you are lawless and rebellious, ungodly and sinful, unholy and profane, a killer of your father or mother, a murderer, sexually immoral, homosexual, a slave traders a liar or perjurer, then the Law of Moses applies to you. Some of us have come to Christ and so the Law has done its job. (Galatians 3:24)

 

[Gideon300]

Acts 15 is interesting, the people who insist you observe a set Saturday sabbath also say you must avoid the levitical unclean foods. The leaders of the church, including Peter, James and Paul met in that chapter to decide which of the mosaic laws gentiles be asked to follow,. Four were mentoined, three of which it is widely believe were given to bring unity at the meeting, avoiding the levitical unclean foods was not one of them. Therefore, if the people are correct who say that law is still applicable, it is an indisputable fact the leaders of the first century church gave gentile converts a licence to sin

Fair comment. Some people have a loose leaf Bible. They tear out the pages they don't like.

 

[TMS]

Im afraid you do not understand Paul:
The power of sin is the law 1Cor15:56
Sinfull passions are aroused in us by the law Rom7:5
Which law?
He tells us in verse 8. Sin took occasion of the command not to covet to arouse all manner of concupiscence in him
Rom8:1
We are to follow after the Spirit-yes. However:
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. Rom7:6
Believers either follow after the Spirit or the law, it cannot be both!

It is the same God.. one God. The Spirit is God and the Law was given by God.
How can you seperate them. They will not controdict or work against each other.
To follow the Spirit results in keeping the law. The fruits of the Spirit are all in line with the 10 commandments.

Same God same law same Spirit.

 

[Undergrace1]

It is the same God.. one God. The Spirit is God and the Law was given by God.
How can you seperate them. They will not controdict or work against each other.
To follow the Spirit results in keeping the law. The fruits of the Spirit are all in line with the 10 commandments.

Same God same law same Spirit.

How does your post address what I wrote?