144,000: The first resurrection and rapture of the church
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Eze_48:31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.
And I said it's a poor translation. The original does not have "sons".
The 'original" was made nearly 1000 years after the LXX, and is known to have been changed to match Jewish traditions. I'm not saying one or the other is right in this case, but the LXX does make more sense IMO
It matches scripture already provided that proves Levi was always one of the 12 tribes. It's ridiculous to even deny such a well known fact.
Do you know how to count? If you do, show me Levi in the 12 tribes that formed the outer perimeter of the camp in the image I posted. Levi was the 13th tribe set apart to God as long as the tabernacle/temple existed. If you don't know how to count, then I can see how you're confused.
Yes, when the sons of Joseph were added to Jacob's linage, there were thirteen sons and thereby thirteen tribes. And then later Levi was taken to be priests for the whole of Israel. But when Levi is no longer needed as the priest for Israel, then it is returned to the group of thirteen. And when the tribe of Dan is taken to fulfill its birthright to the whole of Israel, then there again are twelve.
Yes, can you? I already showed Levi was one of the 12 tribes, where you decided to deny the word tribe is used, and Levi was listed 3rd out of the 12 tribes. You are wrong, but you refuse to admit it so go your way with your intentional error.
Yes, that was in Egypt. Now admit that Levi was not one of the 12 tribes in the wilderness or Israel
Just because Joseph was given his own standing, as well as a second placement in Manassas, does not mean Levi is no longer one of the twelve when he is called to serve. When his service is over, his standing is still with the twelve, and Manasses returns to Joseph, if you want to look at it that way.
It would be wrong for a nephew to replace an uncle permanently. Just because the uncle was called to serve. When the uncle comes back, he is still one of the twelve. In fact, even when he is serving, he is one of the twelve. It is just that Manassah is filling in for Levi for a period of time. In Rev. 7:4-8, Levi has been returned to the place where he was before.
ChristRoseFromTheDead, you have already been checkmated. Why are you still arguing about this?
Yes, Levi was fulfilling this role. But in Rev. 7:4-8 Levi has been returned to the group, and Dan has been taken unto God to fulfill a last days role. This is a truth as well.
Okay, I see where you are coming from. You are saying that Levi was not one of the twelve from the time of Moses to Christ. Because, during that time Manassas filled in Levi's position with the twelve.
Prior to Moses and after Christ Levi was in the group of twelve tribes.
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- Numbers 1:47
But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not numbered among them.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Numbers 1:49
Only thou shalt not number the tribe of Levi, neither take the sum of them among the children of Israel:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Numbers 3:6
Bring the tribe of Levi near, and present them before Aaron the priest, that they may minister unto him.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Numbers 4:18
Cut ye not off the tribe of the families of the Kohathites from among the Levites:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Numbers 18:2
And thy brethren also of the tribe of Levi, the tribe of thy father, bring thou with thee, that they may be joined unto thee, and minister unto thee: but thou and thy sons with thee shall minister before the tabernacle of witness.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Deuteronomy 10:8
At that time the Lord separated the tribe of Levi, to bear the ark of the covenant of the Lord, to stand before the Lord to minister unto him, and to bless in his name, unto this day.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Deuteronomy 18:1
The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the Lord made by fire, and his inheritance