I’ll stand by my statement
I will let this stand in God’s hand. Our judgement against each other means nothing, including your accusation.
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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I’ll stand by my statement
I will let this stand in God’s hand. Our judgement against each other means nothing, including your accusation.
Disagreement is not attack. Criticism is not attack. Demonstrating that you are wrong is not attack.
I am not responsible for the actions of others.
Your statement to me, "you do not believe a word Jesus said!" is an attack. It's also stupid. You choose to act stupid, I will calmly conclude that you're not acting.
If you will read the scriptures that seem to say they that, it says the animals were taken back to heaven they were NOT released on earth and even peter did not understand the meaning, later he realized the unclean gentiles could be saved.
For me I want clearer scriptures as clean and unclean predate the Covenant and the Torah,,
It's also cringe because it's unrepented sin. I wish they didn't do that - it's only going to hurt them. God would have to address that in each of them sooner or later.
Sorry never entered their door even once. the only thing I "heard" concerning them is the Sabbath.
amazing in a good way or bad?? LOL
if in a good way -- all credit must go to our Father -- it is a solid fact I could never live this Way on my own. not one second.
yes its why i am tempted to stop every time they speak what is contrary to what Jesus taught. By doing so they pile more Hot coals on their heads for the day of judgment that will be based on the words of Jesus and what he taught us., I don't want to provoke but I have to tell them the truth. I guess Ill just refrain to reply to dino and his pals that follow me on all my new posts and try to bring them down. they set traps to get me banned and accuse me constantly.
many like to place labels on people, they cannot imagine someone simply following the words of Christ, I guess we are not that many.
one more comment,, living God's Way is difficult, living the way of the 40,000 not so much, they conform to the world in many many ways even in what they eat which is anything.
Yeah, the Law is Holy and Just and Good even spiritual. Its application is even glorious. Just like a crib for a baby is exactly what a baby needs. But then, when the baby grows up into a child, the crib is no longer needed. It's even becomes offensive to the child and would stunt his growth if it is continued to be used.
And what of those who never mature? The crib is their appropriate abode: for their own protection and for the protection of others.
This is how the Law is to be considered. We don't despise the crib once the child is grown. That would be foolish. The crib served its purpose: bringing the child to maturity. Similarity, we don't despise the Law once we are free from it. It served its purpose: it kept the people alive through whom the Son would come.
This is the gist of what Paul wrote to the Galatians:
"Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."
I wrote about the essence of redemption/adoption already here: LINK
In short: now that the Son has come, the "crib" of the Law is no longer needed. The Law of God, His essence not the stone tablets, becomes our essence in Christ. This is what is worked out in us: for all who are in Him.
And how will the world know we are in Him: by putting on display the essence of the father in our lives; Love.
This is gist of the new commandment given by Christ: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
Previously, man was to love up to the capacity of his own strength. That was the standard of the law in stone. In the new commandment, the standard for love for man is the same standard for God "As I (Christ) have loved you...". This surpasses the standard of the stony law. This level of love is only available in Christ and was never a part of the Sinai law.
I wrote more about that in this post: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...ersonal-moral-boundaries.221256/#post-5619148
And what of those who never mature? The crib is their appropriate abode: for their own protection and for the protection of others.
This is how the Law is to be considered. We don't despise the crib once the child is grown. That would be foolish. The crib served its purpose: bringing the child to maturity. Similarity, we don't despise the Law once we are free from it. It served its purpose: it kept the people alive through whom the Son would come.
This is the gist of what Paul wrote to the Galatians:
"Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."
I wrote about the essence of redemption/adoption already here: LINK
In short: now that the Son has come, the "crib" of the Law is no longer needed. The Law of God, His essence not the stone tablets, becomes our essence in Christ. This is what is worked out in us: for all who are in Him.
And how will the world know we are in Him: by putting on display the essence of the father in our lives; Love.
This is gist of the new commandment given by Christ: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
Previously, man was to love up to the capacity of his own strength. That was the standard of the law in stone. In the new commandment, the standard for love for man is the same standard for God "As I (Christ) have loved you...". This surpasses the standard of the stony law. This level of love is only available in Christ and was never a part of the Sinai law.
I wrote more about that in this post: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...ersonal-moral-boundaries.221256/#post-5619148
It’s these kinds of insults that is stemmed by anger. Sadly as we are told, its people who think they are doing the work of God will be killing God’s people. John 16:2 Anger is the first step to murder according to Jesus Mat5:19-30. We all need to be careful how we are engaging with others, even if we disagree.
If God gives you a message to share to everyone , it won't be your fault if the message provokes hostility from them. So please keep sharing - the hostility is just satan not want8ng God's truth to reach His children.
There was an "if" before that. You stand by your bearing false witness. Your insistence in the 10 is hypocritical. You undermine your own preaching. Grace and Peace.
I didn't believe you. You're still free to say the name if that's not it.
If God gives you a message to share to everyone , it won't be your fault if the message provokes hostility from them. So please keep sharing - the hostility is just satan not want8ng God's truth to reach His children.
Is "cast out the bondwoman and her son!" considered hostile?
I think so. It was Paul's direction to the Galatians who continued to flirt with the Law as their guide for life. So, Biblically, hostility against the Law-Keepers has precedent.
You see, sometimes hostility comes your way because you are standing in the Truth and men despise the Truth. But sometime hostility comes your way when you are wrong yet claim you are speaking for God. Instead of shame, such a person cloaks himself in self-righteousness - insulating himself from the pressure of scrutiny and correction.
Such are the Sabbath-Keepers: convinced in their own minds of their superiority over others. Such people should be ashamed, but they carry on as heralds of God's truth. Paul says such should be cast out from the group and ignored. I agree wholeheartedly with Paul.
Ok, I;ll stand corrected, my apologies. But their judgement of someone going to hell is based on their version of what under God’s laws means, which I do not believe is not keeping it. As also indicated by Paul Rom3:19, Rom 6:15, Gal 5:15-18 Jesus said If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 so there is no condemnation if one is doing what God asks because we love Him. The condemnation of the law or being under the law means breaking it, because the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 the condemnation, if someone is in Christ, they are keeping the commandments through the power of the Holy Spirit John14:15-18, not to be saved but because thats how someone who is saved lives Rev 14:12 Mat4:4
I am okay agreeing to disagree. All gets sorted out in God’s time.
I guess this addressed to me. You are out of obedience. Jesus did not die so you could continue like a Israelite several thousand year ago.
People have been very kind to you and couple of others in this thread who constantly post your own version of the gospel, which is no gospel at all, but some people just gotta do what they gotta do apparently. You avoid questions, twist scripture and take scripture out of context all in an effort to support your unbiblical efforts to obey the 10 commandments.
Jesus did not die so you could do a better job trying to be a good person. If you did not avoid a large portion of the New Testament you would know that.
Brush up on what scripture says about those who place themselves under the law. Ignorance is not bliss.
By affirming what vassal said, you affirm his statement to me. Are you sure you stand with him? Do you agree with his baseless and ridiculous accusation?
Sigh. Wrong again. Every believer receives the Holy Spirit placed into them by GOD not some tacky hand ceremony.
20For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 21And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, 22and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. II Corinthians