The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[TMS]

Osas doctrine is from the devil.

It is attractive to the flesh and requires no accountability..

The truth is ... it is a deception that will lead many to live in sin..

Jesus came to save us from sin. Not in sin.

 

[HigherGospel]

I'm a bit confused by your response.

Why would you be confused?

Did you read those scripture references???

God knows everything, all sins are known to God and I'm guilty of sin. But the sins I confess and repent of in the name of Jesus will be paid by Christ.. the sin bearer.

You didn't say that before.

Glad to hear you know enough about God's Word to confess your sins to be cleansed.

But, the question remains - did you FORSAKE your sins as in turning away from them as to stop sinning?

Or, are you like the others who claim they'll always be a sinner and they'll never be able to stop sinning

That's what people says when they have been deceived by the wisdom of man that has been taught as though it's the wisdom of God

In other words they have been deceived by false doctrine not understanding the new birth or the power of the Holy Ghost or how to submit themselves to the Lord or how to resist the devil as to quit falling in to temptation leading them to be sinners.

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

[HigherGospel]

Osas doctrine is from the devil.

It is attractive to the flesh and requires no accountability..

The truth is ... it is a deception that will lead many to live in sin..

Jesus came to save us from sin. Not in sin.

You win!

 

[Gideon300]

God Himself spoke the Ten Commandments and called them His covenant, so these are the commandments that stand for all people. In the time of the apostles, the Jerusalem council in Acts fifteen added four basic rules for Gentile believers to start with. These were given to help new believers who were coming from nations that did not know God’s ways, and they were not a replacement for the covenant God spoke with His own voice. With this in mind, Jesus Himself said He came First to the realities but also for the whole world, not only Israel. He said in John 3:16–17 that God loved the world and sent His Son so the world could be saved. He also said in John 4:42 that He is the Savior of the world, and He taught openly in Samaria among a people the Jews rejected. Jesus spoke of other sheep in John 10:16, saying He has sheep not of the Jewish fold and that He must bring them also so there will be one flock under one Shepherd. He said in John 12:47–48 that His words will judge any man who hears them, showing His teaching is for all who hear it. When He rose from the dead, He commanded His disciples in Matthew 28:18–20 to go and teach all nations everything He had commanded them, which proves His teaching was never meant for Jews only. Jesus also said in Matthew 24:14 that His gospel will be preached in all the world to all nations. He healed and helped Gentiles during His ministry, including the Roman centurion and the Canaanite woman, and said many will come from the east and the west to sit with Abraham in the kingdom of heaven. After Jesus ascended, God chose Peter to open the way to the Gentiles. Peter said in Acts 10:34–35 that God accepts people in every nation who fear Him and do righteousness, and said in Acts 15:7 that God chose him so the Gentiles would hear the gospel by his mouth and believe. Revelation shows the final picture, where a great multitude from all nations stand before the Lamb according to Revelation 7:9, and Revelation 14:6 shows the everlasting gospel going to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. Jesus’ mission and His words are for the whole world, not Israel only.1. Jesus Himself said He came for the world, not only the Jews.

Jesus says very clearly:
John 3:16–17
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
Jesus does not say "Israel only."
He says "the world" three times.
Jesus also calls Himself the Savior for all:
John 4:42
"This is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world."
These words were spoken in Samaria, to a people the Jews did not accept. Jesus stayed with them two days and taught them (John 4:40). That alone destroys the idea that Jesus taught Jews only.

Jesus spoke of other sheep not of Israel.
Jesus said with His own mouth:
John 10:16
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."
“Not of this fold” means not Israel.
Jesus says He must bring them also.
This is not a later idea. This is Jesus’ direct teaching.

Jesus said His words will judge all who hear, not Jews only.
John 12:47–48
"If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him. The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."
Jesus says:
His words judge any man who hears them.
That includes all nations.

Jesus commanded His disciples to teach all nations everything He taught.
This is the strongest proof.
Matthew 28:18–20
"All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations...
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you."
If Jesus taught Jews only, why send His disciples to all nations, telling them to teach everything He taught?
His own command proves His teaching was meant for all.

Jesus said the gospel is for the whole world.
Matthew 24:14
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
"All the world." "All nations."
Not Israel only.

Jesus healed and helped Gentiles during His ministry.
Jesus healed the Roman centurion’s servant.
Matthew 8:11
"And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven."
Jesus says MANY will come from far nations.
That is Gentiles.
Jesus healed the Canaanite woman’s daughter (Matthew 15:22–28).
He praised her faith more than most Jews.
These actions prove He was not “sent to Jews only” in the limited way your opponent claims.

Peter was chosen by God to take the gospel to the Gentiles Paul was not the only one.
Peter explains this himself:
Acts 10:34–35
"Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."
Peter learned this through a direct vision and command from God.
Then he says:
Acts 10:43
"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins."
"Whosoever" includes Gentiles.
Later Peter repeats it:
Acts 15:7
"Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouthshould hear the word of the gospel, and believe."
Peter says plainly:
God chose him
to bring the gospel
to the Gentiles.
This is direct and undeniable.

Revelation shows Jesus as Lord over every nation.

Revelation 7:9
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb..."
This proves the final kingdom is filled with believers from all nations, not Israel only.
Also:
Revelation 14:6
"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people."
In the end, the gospel is for every nation.

Please if you want to argue this it wont be with me, I have given the proof from scripture Jesus came for everyone and not only Israel

Time is short the the door is about to be shut, please open your heart and follow Jesus FULLY and do as HE asks.

Blessings.

You should convert to Judaism. You'd do just fine. Try reading Acts 15.

 

[Mem]

I can't see!

 

[memberofthebride]

Keep boasting about your understanding of the scripture.

Boast in Jesus Christ and nothing else.

Jesus Christ either spoke scripture or inspired others to write scripture,, without scripture the Truth can not be known. I will quote it and love it

inquisitor, You had to learn of Christ from scripture ---

 

[Inquisitor]

Jesus Christ either spoke scripture or inspired others to write scripture,, without scripture the Truth can not be known. I will quote it and love it

inquisitor, You had to learn of Christ from scripture ---

In all truth, the scripture is very difficult to understand.

Every one is going every which way when it comes to understanding the scripture.

What I have noticed is a deep misunderstanding of the eternal power of the death and resurrection
of Jesus Christ. There is no other way to be saved.

You don't need the scripture to be saved and on this point you are mistaken.

The gospel of Jesus Christ can be transmitted by word of mouth which it was throughout
the New Testament.

 

[memberofthebride]

Yeah this is close to shunning Christ. You have much bigger problems with scripture than I thought you did.

Ignorance is not bliss after all.

Where in the text does it specify only the sacrificial law? Oh... it doesn't.

The Law is a unit: break one ordinance, you have broken the entire Law. That is explained in Galatians 3:10 and James 2:10. You don't get to divide the Law into parts that apply and parts that don't where Scripture doesn't... and it doesn't anywhere.

The Law is fulfilled--completed--in Christ. That's why Jesus yelled "Tetelestai" on the cross; "It is finished." That's what every Judaizer doesn't understand.

dino, to be able to prove what you believe is incorrect would require many pages. I have learned over the years
to change a person mind even with sound facts and impeccable logic is almost impossible.

After Christ returns there will no longer be 40,000 Churches - only ONE.
then you will learn Truth.

 

[memberofthebride]

In all truth, the scripture is very difficult to understand.

Every one is going every which way when it comes to understanding the scripture.

What I have noticed is a deep misunderstanding of the eternal power of the death and resurrection
of Jesus Christ. There is no other way to be saved.

You don't need the scripture to be saved and on this point you are mistaken.

The gospel of Jesus Christ can be transmitted by word of mouth which it was throughout
the New Testament.

So Why was the New Testament written? Why did Jesus Christ inspire the four Gospels ? why did John write Revelations?

With in the 40,000 flavors of confusion are 2 billion confused people each believing something different, just like on this blog. which person in this blog should I believe --who has all truth?

I do not claim to know it all

 

[TMS]

The covenant was made from an agreement from both sides... God and man.

The Israelites agreed to keep the law
It was impossible without the power of God.. by the flesh they would fail.

All the laws were included in this..

The blood was sprinkled on the book..

The time came for the types to be Done away.
Now we have a new covenant
Based on better promises.

People are still required to keep the moral laws that define sin. Or still required to give up sin. But the better promise is made by Jesus our representative because He became flesh, the second Adam. And He said He would write them on our heart.

The better promise is Jesus and the laws written on our hearts ....Instead of lambs blood and us saying we would do it..

We need to believe or these promises are useless. If you don't believe Jesus can write them on your heart you are failing the new covenant..

 

[Cameron143]

The covenant was made from an agreement from both sides... God and man.

The Israelites agreed to keep the law
It was impossible without the power of God.. by the flesh they would fail.

All the laws were included in this..

The blood was sprinkled on the book..

The time came for the types to be Done away.
Now we have a new covenant
Based on better promises.

People are still required to keep the moral laws that define sin. Or still required to give up sin. But the better promise is made by Jesus our representative because He became flesh, the second Adam. And He said He would write them on our heart.

The better promise is Jesus and the laws written on our hearts ....Instead of lambs blood and us saying we would do it..

We need to believe or these promises are useless. If you don't believe Jesus can write them on your heart you are failing the new covenant..

What covenant was made between God and man?

 

[mailmandan]

It's all about your obedience.

The scripture says the opposite.

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him
from the dead, you will be saved.

Your confused.

Yes, if we confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart that God has raised Him from the dead, we will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9,10) Not to be confused with multiple acts of obedience/works which "follow."

 

[mailmandan]

Keep boasting about your understanding of the scripture.

Boast in Jesus Christ and nothing else.

Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

 

[TMS]

In all truth, the scripture is very difficult to understand.

Every one is going every which way when it comes to understanding the scripture.

What I have noticed is a deep misunderstanding of the eternal power of the death and resurrection
of Jesus Christ. There is no other way to be saved.

You don't need the scripture to be saved and on this point you are mistaken.

The gospel of Jesus Christ can be transmitted by word of mouth which it was throughout
the New Testament.

Jesus is the Word.

The word was made flesh.

2Ti 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Without scripture, no instruction, no correction, no true doctrine, no reproof, or good works... it is all connected.

Don't remove the sure word of God..
It's our foundation, for truth.

JESUS IS THE SALVATION, He is the example and power to obey.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

Are you saying that you have not been reconciled to God.
No

That Jesus failed to some extent to atone for your sin?
No

Gentiles were never under the law of Moses
True, but Paul said this about Gentiles:
14Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them…
(Romans 2:14-15)
Thus many who were not familiar with the Law of Moses were called RIGHTEOUS

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
self-control; against such things there is no law.
The fruit of the Spirit are the characteristics of God's nature which cannot be contrary to God's law.

 

[Beckworth]

There is context that is being left out of the two verses you have quoted, I could show you by Scripture adding more context, but I don't think it would matter, your mind is made up.

But for the record, the Ten Commandments, the commandments that tell us to only worship God and not steal from our neighbor very much exist for God's people.

Those commandments given at Mount Sinai do NOT exist anymore as far as being bound on us. However ALL of them—except one—are given in The New Law of Faith of Jesus Christ.

I do not steal—not because of some Jewish
law given on Mt. Sinai—but because Jesus Christ tells me not to in Eph. 2:28.

I do not murder—not because Moses said not to on MountvSinai—but because my Savior tells me not to in 1 Tim. 1:9.

I honor my father and Mother—not because of some JEWISH COMMANDMENT given in the book of Exodus—but because of the commandment given to Christian’s in Eph. 6:1.

I don’t commit adultery —not because the 10 commandments tell me not to—but because Jesus tells me not to in Gal. 5:19.

I don’t lie —not because Moses told me not to—but because Christ said that all liars will go to hell. Rev. 21:8.

I don’t covet—not because it’s in the 10 commandments—but because it’s in God’s NEW COVENANT THAT JEREMIAH 31:31 prophecied would come. 1 Tim 3:3.

I don’t use God’s name in vain—not because of the 10 commandments—but because Jesus said not to swear at all by heaven nor earth. Matt. 5:49.

I don’t worship idols—not because Exodus 20:3-5 tells me not to—but because Gal. 5:19 tells me it’s wrong and I could lose my soul.

I love God above all, with all my heart, soul, amd mind because Jesus tells me to—not because of Moses and the 10 commandments. Matt. 22:37

Nine of the ten are given in the New Covenant that Jesus brought in with His death on the cross.

Only one is left out—“Remember the seventh day to keep it holy.” You won’t find that commandment taught to or given to Christian’s in the New Covenant. If you find it let me know.

 

[TMS]

Yes, if we confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart that God has raised Him from the dead, we will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9,10) Not to be confused with multiple acts of obedience/works which "follow."

If we confess and believe we will be saved... ? Anyone can confess and believe. But the confession and belief that is not connected with a CHANGED HEART is not sincere..
So the changed heart = repentance and righteous works, = true confession and true belief.

Jas 2:18-20
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

The devil's know and believe and tremble that Jesus is Lord.

Don't seperate faith and works..

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Those commandments given at Mount Sinai do NOT exist anymore as far as being bound on us. However ALL of them—except one—are given in The New Law of Faith of Jesus Christ.

I do not steal—not because of some Jewish
law given on Mt. Sinai—but because Jesus Christ tells me not to in Eph. 2:28.

I do not murder—not because Moses said not to on MountvSinai—but because my Savior tells me not to in 1 Tim. 1:9.

I honor my father and Mother—not because of some JEWISH COMMANDMENT given in the book of Exodus—but because of the commandment given to Christian’s in Eph. 6:1.

I don’t commit adultery —not because the 10 commandments tell me not to—but because Jesus tells me not to in Gal. 5:19.

I don’t lie —not because Moses told me not to—but because Christ said that all liars will go to hell. Rev. 21:8.

I don’t covet—not because it’s in the 10 commandments—but because it’s in God’s NEW COVENANT THAT JEREMIAH 31:31 prophecied would come. 1 Tim 3:3.

I don’t use God’s name in vain—not because of the 10 commandments—but because Jesus said not to swear at all by heaven nor earth. Matt. 5:49.

I don’t worship idols—not because Exodus 20:3-5 tells me not to—but because Gal. 5:19 tells me it’s wrong and I could lose my soul.

I love God above all, with all my heart, soul, amd mind because Jesus tells me to—not because of Moses and the 10 commandments. Matt. 22:37

Nine of the ten are given in the New Covenant that Jesus brought in with His death on the cross.

Only one is left out—“Remember the seventh day to keep it holy.” You won’t find that commandment taught to or given to Christian’s in the New Covenant. If you find it let me know.

So forget the only commandment that God said Remember and is holy, blessed and sanctified by God.

Man says forget, God said Remember. Exo20:8 Man says to profane God’s holy day Isa 58:13, God said to keep the Sabbath dayholy. Exo20:8-11 I am sticking with what God said, what Jesus tells us to live by Mat4:4

The Sabbath did not disappear in the NT- Jesus kept Luke 4:16, His disciples kept Luke 23:56 the apostles kept Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 Jesus predicted it would still be kept by His faithful long after His death Isa56:6-7 Mat24:20-30 and for eternity Isa66:23

I know what you are teaching is popular in most churches, but we were warned about what would be taught in the last days. 2 Tim 4:3-4. No one can take away God’s blessings Isa 56:2 and sanctification Eze20:12 and man can’t sanctify a day or sanctify ourselves Isa66:17

 

[Inquisitor]

So Why was the New Testament written? Why did Jesus Christ inspire the four Gospels ? why did John write Revelations?

With in the 40,000 flavors of confusion are 2 billion confused people each believing something different, just like on this blog. which person in this blog should I believe --who has all truth?

I do not claim to know it all

I definitely do not claim to understand much at all either.

I do know that the letters of the N.T and there were many letters were circling throughout the churches.

According to church history the N.T did not become canon until centuries later.

But we take all church history with a grain of salt.

With the N.T letters there were other letters which the church had to decide on, which were inspired or not.

Paul spoke the gospel to people across the Roman Empire because the written N.T did not exist.

Most folk until education became a public affair could not read or write for millennia.

I don't know for a fact that Jesus inspired the four gospels?

Do the four gospel authors say that God told them to write?

John wrote the book of Revelation because the angel told him to write it, that's inspired.

Paul's letters were mainly correction and encouragement.

So who decided the canon of the N.T and exactly when, we don't know.

 

[BillyBob]

Don't seperate faith and works..

The works that please God are but a fruit of the faith given!