"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand." -- John 10:27-28 ESV.
Do All Religions Lead To God?
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You act as if I purposely didn't read all of what you gave but how am I supposed to help it with my eyes? It isn't that I didn't read it all or anything I read what verses I could and yes believe it or not I have not seen or heard of this software I am not what you would call tech savy so there is no need for the attitude.
And actually no I do not believe we can live in sin and be saved because sin is a poisin to the believer however I do not believe your obedience can save or keep you saved either if this was so then Jesus dying on the cross was null and void it is not based on our effots but on the efforts of Christ alone
So your assumptions are incorrect you don't know me you don't know my limitations and you don't know what I believe either apparently
You said you couldn't or didn't read it all.
I'm just going by what you said.
They have software that can read printed texts, so you can hear right? If so, maybe get some software that can read to you what is written
Why not ask someone who is to help you?
OK so you believe we can live in disobedience and rebellion against the Lord and still be saved.
What you fail to understand is we are called to live in agreement with the Lord and by submitting to the leading of the Holy Spirit it's the Lord's power the empowers us to live in agreement with Him.
Those living in opposition to Him are in agreement with satan
You cannot have it both ways. You've been deceived by reformed theology which is heresy
I know what you keep saying that it's OK for Christians to not live in obedience to the Lord and we are still saved even if we live in rebellion and in opposition to the Lord
I wont tell you you're lying but those first three passages you offer do NOT say faith alone. That's what you want it to say but that's not what it says.
Listen don't put words in my mouth I keep saying that obedience does not save or is it what keeps you saved your the one saying I believe we can live in disobedience and still be saved you are not listening to what I am saying
Our salvation is based on the finnished work of Christ alone not how well we obey and no this is not saying we can live in sin it is saying your salvation is not based on works
Obedience is the fruits of a spirit filled believer so of course it is vital we obey to the best of our ability but when we fall short that is why we have his grace and mercy
Keep your assumptions to yourself please because I said no such thing
God's love for us is never ending so in that way we are never separated from his love but we have free will that can. He doesn't stop loving us, we stop loving him.
In the following sense, all religions lead to God:
Throughout history humanity has perceived deity to be the ground of meaning and morality. The first people to perceive God were named Adam (Gen. 2:7) and Eve (Gen. 2:22 & 3:20). Theocentric history reached its apex or spiritual climax with the NT teaching that there is one almighty and all-loving God, who desires all humanity to live in harmony on earth and also in heaven, and who allows humanity to experience earthly existence including pain and disappointment for the purpose of teaching them their need for Him (cf. Heb. 12:9-10, 11:6).
Throughout history humanity has perceived deity to be the ground of meaning and morality. The first people to perceive God were named Adam (Gen. 2:7) and Eve (Gen. 2:22 & 3:20). Theocentric history reached its apex or spiritual climax with the NT teaching that there is one almighty and all-loving God, who desires all humanity to live in harmony on earth and also in heaven, and who allows humanity to experience earthly existence including pain and disappointment for the purpose of teaching them their need for Him (cf. Heb. 12:9-10, 11:6).
Thanks, appreciate it; calling people 'liars' could get you banned from 'Chat'. God Loves us!
Please Carefully notice "what I did post":
Thus, we agree, Correct? not "faith alone", but "By Grace Through faith", eh?
And, precious friend, Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:
The Bible: The BIG Picture
Amen.
I didn't call anyone a liar but decent people can lie or they can be mistaken. Maybe you were mistaken maybe I was mistake but what I saw was
"By Grace Through faith" Alone"
Now I'd love for you to explain where the alone came from and why it appears all is beyond me. It is by grace through faith that salvation is available but faith alone is not sufficient so I hope me see my confusion at seeing the word "alone" following faith. But you can correct me brother
Erll You are correct it is us walking away from him thus our salvation is not lost but rather forfeited. I believe we can hand over our salvation but we cannot lose it due to our failings and shortcomings a true believer may stumble and fall short but they will outrun his love he goes after the one and leaves the 100
Lost vs forfeited? Needs clarification
Going after the 1 and leaving the 99 represents the depth of his love but we aren't sheep. The sheep don't love the shepard.
Matt 25:31-46
All the nations shall be gathered before him and presumably all the people of all the nations. Verses 34-36 tell us who the blessed are that will inherent the kingdom and how they were deemed blessed
Clarification? Ok I will try to explain the best I can. So think of salvation as a gift a box with a bow on it from the father paid for by the blood of Christ now salvation is called a gift in scripture so if he hands you this gift how do you lose what was not even paid for yourself? trchnically speaking you don't have ownership over this gift because it was bought with a price a heavy price you only are given the gift out of mercy and love
Now you can choose to give this gift back if you wish you can forfiet the gift back to him or not this is the forfiet part
Now think of this scenario except the gift is in the fathers hands because it was bought by his sons blood and this gift is yoursalvation now how does one lose what is not even theirs to begin with? you didn't pay for it you didn't die for it and you didn't suffer for it.
Now since it is in his hands and his alone you cannot lose it because it is firmly in his grasp
Or think of it like this no matter how many times you fall short as long as you have a repentant heart for your sins since you didn't pay for your salvation you technically don't own it only Christ does because he bought it and his love is so vast and so deep that nothing you ever do will make him love you any less nor will he throw you away to the dogs for you are his beloved child
Now can you walk away from him yes, can you follow the desires of your flesh and become lost? yes but it is all on you it is you forfieting your birthright but to lose something you have to have had it to begin with
aand anyone who has tasted and seen if their hearts truly love him will never depart from him and trust me in my life of absolute hell and torture I had more than enough reason to do so but my love and his love for me are to deep for that to happen
so losing something due to you sins and failings is not possible because the cross is what paid for it so you cannot lose what is not yours to begin with but since he is loving and gracious he does allow us to forfeit it even though it would break his heart
Precious friend, it is ok, we have all been confused at one time or another, eh?
It came from the so-called "Five Solas (alones?)" = the mistaken say: Salvation is by Grace alone, by faith alone, In Christ alone, by scripture alone, and for the glory of God alone.
Which is atrocious grammar, correct?
Much better grammar Is:
God's Salvation, Simply, Is: "By Grace Through faith In Christ, By Scripture, For The Glory Of God!"
And All five of these Together! / Alone!! Nothing can be "added Nor taken away", eh?
Be Blessed...
I understand, never let truth get in the way
for the last 50 plus years my goal has been to come to the knowledge of "THE TRUTH"!
The Truth from the mouth of Jesus Christ, every WORD!
Just to day I learned I was in error on what Paul called "the Works of the Law'. I realize I was wrong.
My goal: The Mind of Jesus Christ and HIS Divine Righteous Nature.
Why do you bear false witness against me?. Isn't that breaking one of your cherished ten?
I didn't come here to watch videos of someone else talking. I came here for healthy discussion, though it's been difficult to find the healthy part.
false witness??? I find little here to discuss that is "healthy" or true?
The man in the video does not have all truth, but he does understand Jewish law, traditions and customs as well as gentiles of that day and how Paul's words have been almost totally misunderstood by the 40,000.
Paul stated: the Torah is 12 Wherefore the law/ Torah [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
David states in Psalms 119 the Torah is, in-effect, perfection
not sure where you are but many on this blog believe the Torah is abolished
Christ clearly stated the PATH is narrow and few find it,, the few, -- not 40,000.
I came to see how true this is, not to learn.
I see that you dodged this instead of confessing and repenting.
The Sinai covenant is obsolete. The covenant in Christ’s blood is in effect for those who believe. Why do you misrepresent the beliefs of others?
You are making reference to a false clam from the Catholics. I thought you were wanting truth. “The “few” is in relation to all of humanity, not all of the Church.