Yes, actually they contain warnings that Christians can actually lose their salvation.
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Yes, actually they contain warnings that Christians can actually lose their salvation.
One of numerous ways we know Martin Luther was a false teachers was he tried hard to have the Book of James removed from God's Canon as he rejected what the Lord taught through the Apostle James
Luther was a known drunk and God's Word teaches that drunkenness is one of the things that cause people to not be allowed in to God's Kingdom.
he wasn't able to find its reconciliation with Romans, but he did not ultimately reject it.
we have no shortage of people today who fully reject Romans for the same lack of understanding that led Luther to question James.
if we go looking for evil it is no problem finding it, but is that our calling?
if you had been raised catholic, and one day finally for the first time read the scriptures yourself and understood the nature of our salvation, you might also have wondered if James was legitimately scripture or if it was a deception implanted by the papacy.
James and Revelation are scripture. we know this. we know because they testify of our Husband. God has granted us hundreds of years of theology after Luther; for us it is a matter of course what for him was a great struggle and a life or death decision to speak out or not.
do we want to be judged with the same measure you judge Luther by?
Why don't you quote scripture properly in context.. Maybe then you would be honest and gain a little understanding:
(2 Peter 3:15-16) "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; {16} As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
So here we have Peter declaring Paul to be an approved messenger of the LORD.. Pointing out that the ones who find it hard to understand his words are unlearned and unstable..
There are plenty of examples in Scripture. Where does Scripture say faith alone saves or salvation is certain and irrevokable. If God can grant salvation to whomever he chooses why can't he take it away?
Well for one John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand.
He speaks of no one being able to take us out of his hands and about eternal life there aren't a lot of scriptures that speak on whether one can lose their salvation or not but also
- Romans 8:38-39: "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." This verse affirms that God's love is unchanging and will never separate believers from Him.
- So there is that as well
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Actually he did say in his writing he did not believe the Book of James was inspired by the Lord.
He was probably drunk again when saying that
We are to correct the unfruitful works of darkness and if we aren't aware of what evil is and how it opposes what God's Word teaches then that make it much easier for the devil to get people to accept false doctrine
No, because once a person gets the Holy Spirit they would be led to accept the whole counsel of God and stop listing to the heretics
Luther was drunk that taught heresy.
He is to be ignored for the mental midget he was seeing he was led of demons to teach false doctrine and to be a drunk.
Drunks don't go to Heaven.
Top reasons why OSAS is false doctrine
Ignore warnings written to Christians at your own peril which of course is exactly what you will do!
Romans 11:21,22
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
Hebrews 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
*A person cannot depart from something they were never a part of to begin with
1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
*A person cannot depart from the faith is they were never in the faith begin with
2 Timothy 2:12
If we deny Him, He also will deny us
Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
1 John 1:6
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Romans 2:7-11
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
(NOT in our own strength - see Philippians 4:13)
Romans 6:14-16
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
1 Peter 1:14-17
As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
John 15:2
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Matthew 7:16-21
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
John 8:35
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
James 5:19,20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Hebrews 10:28-31
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Only those led by the Spirit are the sons of God (Romans 8:14)
Corruption cannot inherit incorruption (1 Corinthians 15:50 - Gal 6:7,8 says we reap corruption when we sin)
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
If OSAS was actually true, the Lord wouldn't be saying what He says in 2 Corinthians 13:5 and these other scriptures wouldn't even be in God's Word!
Here's another one that wouldn't be in God's Word if OSAS were actually true:
1 Corinthians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
Cherry picken is what the OSAS people always do.
The devil taught them this, which of course is why and how they got so badly deceived.
John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Notice this promise is ONLY for those that not only hear His voice, but for those that actually follow Him - walking in agreement with Him
The greasy grace crowd says this is works based salvation saying we have to actually follow Jesus
This of course is why so many of these folks live after the flesh disqualifying themselves from this wonderful promise from the Lord.
Keyword is “follow” - those not following the Lord who are hearers only are deceived and shall be lost.
James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
1 John 1:6
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
John 8:12
Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”
John 12:46
I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
John 8:51
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my Word, he shall never see death.
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
1 Timothy 6:12
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold (take possession) on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
Sorry but I am legally blind I cannot read super long posts but I read what I could and from what it says it seems to be dependant on the person leaving the faith not them losing it there is a difference. And yes one cannot lose what they never had or were a part of but again that is the point isn't it? It seems that one can have unbelief or depart from the faith but losing it? it does not appear so because losing it would be dependant on God walkkkkking away from it depends on the person. Salvbation is called a gift and one cannot lose something given to them unless the giver takes it away but if one willingly hands it over that is a different matter
Are you not also cherry picking in the verses you posted? would you prefer I post the whole chapter to you instead verse by verse and you call that cherry picking? Also no one argues about following Christ but a works salvation is pretty clear and on the nose we are saved and kept by faith and grace obedience should come naturally to the spirit filled believer but obedience alone is not enough
OK, so you admit you are not reading all the scripture references that were posted.
You really have no business commenting against these scriptures after acknowledging you did not read them all.
They have software that can read printed texts, so you can hear right? If so, maybe get some software that can read to you what is written
When one sins they have made a decision to turn away from the Lord to go to sin and at that point they have reaped corruption according to Gal 6:7,8
To say we do not reap what we sow is mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8
OSAS doctrine mocks God which is understandable since it's doctrines of demons.
No, they were born again and were in Christ and then they turned away from the Lord and now they are no longer in Christ having turned away from Him to do sin.
That's false doctrine.
2 Timothy 2:12
If we deny Him, He also will deny us
The point is OSAS is the false teaching that one can turn away from the Lord choosing to go back to walking in disobedience and OSAS claims they are still saved.
That's doctrines of demons and it is mocking God claiming we can sow to the flesh (sin) and not reap corruption
Precious friend, It Is:
Certain and Irrevocable:"For The Gifts And The Calling Of God are Without Repentance!" (Romans 11:29 AV)
Confirmed By A Huge Multitude (Over 144) Of Plain and Clear Passages:God's Eternal Salvation Is, In Biblical Fact, "in view" In God's Revelation Of The Mystery,
To/For Gentiles, Today, In His Dispensation Of The Grace Of God, Biblically Confirmed By:
God's OPERATION On All New-born babes In Christ!
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God's Eternal Life Assurance
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(Rule # 6 Bible Study Rules), but prayerfully and Carefully:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
Example:
"If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they
crucify to themselves the SON Of God Afresh, and put Him to an open shame."
(Hebrews 6:6 AV)
This Is Not Written To The Body Of Christ, Under Grace, but to the Hebrews / Jews Under Law!And, precious friend, Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
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Amen.
So, "precious friend" you think we can turn our back on God in rebellion and live in sin and still be saved?
That's doctrines of devils and it's heresy
God's not the one forsaking people they turn away from Him, THEY are forsaking Him.
2 Timothy 2:12
If we deny Him, He also will deny us
Heresy does not make anybody encouraged and edified but the devil
Just because I am physically unable to read everything you gave doesn't mean I have no buiseness commenting on them and as for that software you speak of I have never seen or heard of it so I would love to haver it but I have no idea where or how to get it.
Do you know what it is called?
Now yes sin can make one walk away from faith but losing it no giving it up willingly by living in sin yes. The enemy cannot steal what is given to Christ and also as I said before salvation is a gift from God not something earned or kept by earning wither you will always fall short always sin in some way or another even if your thoughts are evil in any way you have sinned so salvation cannot be based on how good we do that is in fact a works salvation
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No one can remove or take away our gift of eternal life, BUT, some choose to leave on their own and some have.
If Satan can choose to leave with the power, mind and ability he was given --- for sure some will get angry or what ever and walk away. Just stop and look at what humans do -- insane -- but they do It any way.
It actually does as you admitted you did not read the scripture references I provided.
As someone who claims to be "legally blind" you did not know there is software they will read printed material to you???
Ever heard of a search engine?
Ever thought about searching the internet for this?
Ever thought of reaching out to services for the blind for assistance???
As I suspected - you believe we can live in sin and still be saved.
That's heresy.