Is pornography allowed?

[CrystalN]

There will always b stress in this life . U managed for 5 months so u know u can do it but , u must have a strong will and b very determined to stop or , u won't stop . U have to really really want to stop .
If u want to do something u will , if u don't want to then u won't . How badly do u really want to give up smoking ? Very ? Then just do it ! Don't b a slave to a chemical hit ! Don't b a slave to anything or anyone except your God !

I really want to stop. I WILL stop. I will fast and pray for God to guide and provide me with the strength to not fall victim to temptation. I want to be a better person for Christ Jesus
As you stated, stress will always be present. I just have to rely on GOD and God's word for strength and endurance. I'll keep pushing. Today I conclude this chapter and will enter a new tomorrow with renewed strength through Christ my savior.

Thank you also for your words of encouragement I appreciate it very much.

Have a blessed evening and a great week ahead. God be with you

 

[presidente]

I don't believe there is any reference to pornography or sexual images in Bible, so then, maybe it is allowed. A similar word, fornication, is in the Bible. However this word is broad (vague) and means "sexual immorilty", it is unclear then if pornography/sexual images/videos are included under this team. With a lot of Christians believing masturbation is allowed, it is natural then to think that the most common aid to masturbation may also be allowed? What are people, especially singles, to do with the sexual urges? Thoughts? I always thought I knew the answer, but perhaps I am wrong?

Jesus taught that if a man looks at a woman to lust after her, that he has committed adultery with her already in his heart. Job said that he made a covenant with his eyes not to look upon the virgin with lust.

The point of using pornography is typically to look with lust, right? That's the what the thrill is, isn't it?

And wouldn't looking at pornography stir up the sexual urges rather than do away with them?

I suppose a grey area would be a man taking pictures of his own wife or a woman taking pictures of her own husband. But if you send them online, some software engineer at Google or some Russian hacker might be looking at them, tapping into your life stream. Then, someday, if you die, the kids are going through your stuff and get an eye-full of mom at 20... and they can't unsee that.

I suppose someone has to be the police and judges who look at the porn deemed to be obscene and not allow it in. I suppose if a Christian were in that role, that individual could have grace from God not to look with lust. And some of that stuff would be child porn, and I would imagine that if the police or judge were a normal individual he or she might just find that revolting and not lust-inducing in the least.

But that would be a niche exception.

They need to outlaw this porn stuff. Either the US Bill of Rights is too free on this stuff or else the court's interpretation of it. We should amend the constitution, but I don't think there is the political will for it at this stage.

 

[presidente]

Yes it is but I'm forgetting which of the prophets mentioned it.

But where fornication and adultery are wrong it mentions that listing over pictures was a mental illness ND even more perverted than the actual sin of illicit sex itself.

I am not aware of any prophet in the Bible using the term 'mental illness' or calling lusting over photos madness or something like that.
Jesus said as recorded in Matthew 5 that whosoever looks on a woman in order to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in her heart. The issue is lusting/coveting (compare the wording to 'thou shalt not covet' in the Greek LXX of the ten commandments in Leviticus 20.)

There are some people who read that and say if you look with lust, it's just as bad as committing adultery.... so you might as well go ahead and have sex. But of course that is some really terrible reasoning, even the first part before the three dots. If you look with lust, that's one sin. Then the physical adultery is another. I think part of the problem is some people think all sins are equal, because they have heard that preached. But there were death penalty sins.... like actually having sex with someone else's wife... in the Old Testament. There was no death penalty prescribed for coveting. And there are different words for severity of wickedness, like ra versis rasha in Hebrew...bad versus wicked. Then there is the unforgiveable sin. There is the sin not unto death versus the sin unto death. So not all sins are the same.

But lets avoid them all.

 

[presidente]

Then we have at least one Guardian Angel with us, assigned to us, and lastly we always have what they call a Scribe Angel with us, recording what we say and do and so forth. So it's pretty crowded in y room right now.

Can you tell me if the Bible says we have a Scribe Angel with us... or the Guardian Angel for that matter? Did someone else, outside of the Bible get some revelation about scribe and guardian angels? Did someone see these angels, sense them? Does the individual that makes this claim say that God told Him everyone has these angels?

Supposing there are guardian and scribe angels, why would there be one of each? And how would you know that?

If you are just making this stuff up, or repeating someone else who made this stuff up, or repeating a long line of people who made this stuff up... you shouldn't be repeating it. Unrevealed religion is not a good thing.

..Do I want to Masturbate and pretend their not there? Put on a show for them? Man how disgusting that would be. I wouldn't do it. I don't do it.

If I'm with my wife, do you think a guardian and scribe angel is there. I suppose a guardian could turn his back and look out for attackers, but would a scribe angel be paying attention and taking notes? Should married couples not reproduce out of shyness?

If the angels are indifferent and wear white like a good doctor, and they have seen it all before, would that make the couple less shy?

It's an actual evil spirit too, the Spirit of Masturbation. When someone masturbates for the first time, it opens the door for the spirit of masturbation to enter, they just invited him in. The then evil spirit of masturbation puts pornographic thoughts and images into their mind to get them to masturbate more and pretty soon, even their wife or husband isn't enough to satisfy them, they want more and more and fall into a deeper depravity that does much harm to their soul and heart.

Can you show me a Bible verse about this spirit of masturbation? Is there a spirit of just regular marital sex, too? Would that be a demon or an angel if such a thing existed? Is there a spirit of foreplay?

What if there were a teenager who never masturbated, but who liked to roll houses with toilet paper. The first time he does it, does he get a spirit of toilet paper rolling that needs to be cast out? Does the Bible teach that all choices or sins have a corresponding demon that enters the person who does them? I just don't see that in the Bible. In fact 'spirit of' followed by a sin is some what rare in the Bible when we look at the 'spirit of' verses. I'm thinking of 'spirit of harlotry' in Hosea 4. That was upon the people, not a story about one individual getting demonized. And the 'spirit of divination' in Acts... divination is a sin.... but it is something that could be performed through demons.

God tells us to basically do four things. Humble ourselves, pray, seek His face, and turn from our wicked ways. Is masturbation on the list to do or to stop?

 

[Edward429451]

Can you tell me if the Bible says we have a Scribe Angel with us... or the Guardian Angel for that matter? Did someone else, outside of the Bible get some revelation about scribe and guardian angels? Did someone see these angels, sense them? Does the individual that makes this claim say that God told Him everyone has these angels?

Supposing there are guardian and scribe angels, why would there be one of each? And how would you know that?

Psalm 23:6 "Surely GOODNESS and MERCY shall follow me all the days of my life." Your personal angels record details of your life on daily basis 24/7 what you do and say and protect you from demons based on your choices. Your angels follow you everywhere you go.

And Guardian Angels are a given and have been taught on for a long time.

I'm pretty sure I got it from this guy, Derek Prince. Maybe not on this video but since this is about evil spirits and casting them out I'll post this for you.

If I'm with my wife, do you think a guardian and scribe angel is there. I suppose a guardian could turn his back and look out for attackers, but would a scribe angel be paying attention and taking notes? Should married couples not reproduce out of shyness?

If the angels are indifferent and wear white like a good doctor, and they have seen it all before, would that make the couple less shy?

My opinion? They are spiritual beings and have no interest in you & your wife, lol. That's just something biological creatures do and they are not biological creatures.

In Genesis 6:1-4 some of the fallen angels liked our women and, somehow disrobed from the spiritual being body so they could have children with our women. That's why God had to send the flood to kill them all. But their spirits are earth bound and non-redeemable (!!!) by Jesus's blood because they are spirits of fallen angels and half human also.

So I'm not sure if there is perverted angels taking notes or not! If you're wife is pretty, might want to tell her not to sleep naked when you're out of town and she is alone.

 

[Edward429451]

Can you show me a Bible verse about this spirit of masturbation? Is there a spirit of just regular marital sex, too? Would that be a demon or an angel if such a thing existed? Is there a spirit of foreplay?

No I can't but what U can do is point you towards Derek Prince. He talks about the spirits of masturbation in quite a few of his videos, I don't remember which ones??

He says people have told him they felt it leave him out of his hands, from different people and he spoke to it and cast it out.

 

[Edward429451]

What if there were a teenager who never masturbated, but who liked to roll houses with toilet paper. The first time he does it, does he get a spirit of toilet paper rolling that needs to be cast out?

What does that even mean? I have no idea what you speak of.

Does the Bible teach that all choices or sins have a corresponding demon that enters the person who does them? I just don't see that in the Bible. In fact 'spirit of' followed by a sin is some what rare in the Bible when we look at the 'spirit of' verses. I'm thinking of 'spirit of harlotry' in Hosea 4. That was upon the people, not a story about one individual getting demonized. And the 'spirit of divination' in Acts... divination is a sin.... but it is something that could be performed through demons.

The Word of God describes many different spirits. Unclean spirits, spirit of Infirmity, a lot of them in the Gospels and NT.

Ephesians 6:12
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places..../KJV

That's quite a list there! They are not all the same. They are all different and named. And they have different jobs to do and rank at those jobs.

You could type a spirit question into youtube and it will bring up teaching videos on it.

Derek Prince, Lester Sumrall, Allen Nolan of Cornerstone Fellowship are three good ones to learn about evil spirits. Cornerstone does a series called "Angels and Demons" and it's good.

 

[presidente]

No I can't but what U can do is point you towards Derek Prince. He talks about the spirits of masturbation in quite a few of his videos, I don't remember which ones??

He says people have told him they felt it leave him out of his hands, from different people and he spoke to it and cast it out.

Did you feel it leave your hands? If it did not leave your hands, and you masturbated, do you still have a spirit of masturbation in your hands?

Anyway, preacher-so-and-so says so is not a good basis for doctrine.

 

[Edward429451]

Did you feel it leave your hands? If it did not leave your hands, and you masturbated, do you still have a spirit of masturbation in your hands?

Anyway, preacher-so-and-so says so is not a good basis for doctrine.

I couldn't tell you, I've never had a problem with the spirit of masturbation or pornography.

And you've never heard of any of those teachers before so are declaring masturbation an ok practice. Good luck with that.

You sound like you're friends with the spirit of masturbation and spirit of lust?

 

[Edward429451]

Did you feel it leave your hands? If it did not leave your hands, and you masturbated, do you still have a spirit of masturbation in your hands?

Anyway, preacher-so-and-so says so is not a good basis for doctrine.

Check this out, it's a good one

 

[CrystalN]

I really want to stop. I WILL stop. I will fast and pray for God to guide and provide me with the strength to not fall victim to temptation. I want to be a better person for Christ Jesus
As you stated, stress will always be present. I just have to rely on GOD and God's word for strength and endurance. I'll keep pushing. Today I conclude this chapter and will enter a new tomorrow with renewed strength through Christ my savior.

Thank you also for your words of encouragement I appreciate it very much.

Have a blessed evening and a great week ahead. God be with you

Update :

I haven't touched a cigarette since Sunday evening again. I am planning on keeping it this way. Thank you Jesus for saving me from this destructive habit

 

[SoontoBehold]

Update :

I haven't touched a cigarette since Sunday evening again. I am planning on keeping it this way. Thank you Jesus for saving me from this destructive habit

Praise the Lord, and press on sister!

Indeed, sinful escapes come in all kinds of forms, but the one and only true refuge is in Christ. Whether it is demonic forces or simply our fallen nature's desires that tempt us to sin, we have the Spirit in us to help us fight lust, porn, drugs, smoking, violence, etc.

Ephesians 6: 10-18 is good to meditate on:
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. 14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. 16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; 17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, 18 praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end, keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,

 

[CrystalN]

Praise the Lord, and press on sister!

Indeed, sinful escapes come in all kinds of forms, but the one and only true refuge is in Christ. Whether it is demonic forces or simply our fallen nature's desires that tempt us to sin, we have the Spirit in us to help us fight lust, porn, drugs, smoking, violence, etc.

Ephesians 6: 10-18 is good to meditate on:
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. 14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. 16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; 17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, 18 praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end, keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,

Update:
I've never smoked again since then. Thank you Lord Praise the Lord. I am so thankful