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Your whole point depends on one passage from Paul. But Jesus is the One who gives the truth of salvation, and Jesus never said that a person is automatically guaranteed heaven the moment they believe. He never said that repentance is not part of the gospel. In fact, Jesus preached repentance from the very beginning. “Repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 4:17 ). His apostles preached the same message. Peter said “Repent ye, and be baptized… unto the remission of your sins” (Acts 2:38). So repentance is part of the good news, not something to throw away.
Jesus taught that the Father gives the Spirit to those who obey Him and ask Him (Luke 11:13 ). He never said the Spirit is a guarantee no matter how a person lives. Jesus warned that a branch in Him can be cut off if it stops bearing fruit (John 15:2 ). If salvation were a guaranteed gold seal, Jesus would not warn His own disciples like that.

Jesus also said “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my Father” (Matthew 7:21 ). If entrance were guaranteed by one moment of belief, Jesus would not say this. He also said “He that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). Endurance is not automatic, it is a daily walk with Christ.
So how should a person behave if they truly believe in Jesus? Jesus answered it Himself. A true disciple keeps His word (John 8:31 ), loves God and neighbor (Matthew 22:37 to 39) , forgives others to be forgiven (Matthew 6:14 to 15 ), turns from sin (John 8:11 ), and walks in the light (John 12:35 to 36 ). This is the life of someone saved by God’s grace.

Jesus never promised a sealed, unconditional future. He promised eternal life to those who follow Him and remain in His word.
That is the truth He taught.

You have thoroughly confused the free gift of salvation with your behavior in you Christian life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Salvation is a free gift given to those who believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus.

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

Stop polluting the gospel of Jesus Christ with your filthy works and your obedience to the law.

Salvation always remains a free gift and cannot be earned.
 
I edited this onto my previous post within the provided window of time.

Before Moses struck the rock, he exclaimed, "Must we give you water?!" and I suppose that displeased God as much as striking the rock in excess of God's commandment to strike it once.

Who's we? "We" are only to do as God instructs, as He instructs. Can you imagine the Holy Spirit commanding anyone, at any time, "You should steal that piece of toast, for it is necessary!"?
The fact that Moses struck it 2 was displeasing because all things were done as a type of the coming Messiah.

It was to be an example of Jesus. Jesus is the Rock and source of life.

Jesus was struck ONCE and because Moses did it twice it was not a true type of the future.

In the Bible, type refers to a person, event, or institution that foreshadows or points a greater reality, while the antitype is that greater fulfillment and is often pointing to Jesus Christ and His work.
 
The fact that Moses struck it 2 was displeasing because all things were done as a type of the coming Messiah.

It was to be an example of Jesus. Jesus is the Rock and source of life.

Jesus was struck ONCE and because Moses did it twice it was not a true type of the future.

In the Bible, type refers to a person, event, or institution that foreshadows or points a greater reality, while the antitype is that greater fulfillment and is often pointing to Jesus Christ and His work.

The point I had in mind was God changing his commandments in real time (and we should follow Him accordingly), and @vassal helped in confirming that in the detailed elaboration that he graciously offered. The first time the commandment was strike the rock, the second time the commandment was speak to the rock, and moses reverted back to the first commandment.
 
Acts 13:38 - Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Colossians 2:13 - When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins.

The dogs are barking.
 
You have thoroughly confused the free gift of salvation with your behavior in you Christian life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Salvation is a free gift given to those who believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus.

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

Stop polluting the gospel of Jesus Christ with your filthy works and your obedience to the law.

Salvation always remains a free gift and cannot be earned.
Like I said many times before, "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." :cautious:
 
To summarize the application of the lesson in Moses' obedience. The first time he was commanded to 'do' something, and the second time he was commanded to 'say' something. And it seems obvious to me that saying something without having to do anything left Moses nothing to 'work' with but faith.
 
Which passage(s) clearly delineate the distinction between moral law and ceremonial law?

look at The context, the way they were given, when they were given, why they were given, the places they were kept, the difference between Moral and cerimonial.

I will give a short study, the bible verses back it up.

The Holy Scriptures provide a very clear and beautiful distinction between the Moral Law of Ten Commandments and the Ceremonial Law of types and shadows.

Understanding this difference is vital because the Moral Law reveals our need for a Savior, while the Ceremonial Law pointed forward to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God.

The moral law was spoken directly by the voice of God from Mount Sinai and written with His own finger on tables of stone. It is a perfect law that converts the soul Psalm 19:7.

The Ceremonial Law was given in a more private manner to Moses, who wrote these precepts, statutes, and judgments in a book. This "book of the law" was placed in the side of the ark. Deuteronomy 31:26.

The Bible teaches that one law is eternal, while the other was a temporary shadow.

The Moral Law is Eternal, Jesus emphasized that not one jot or tittle would pass from the law as long as heaven and earth remain Matthew 5:17-18. It is as immutable as God’s throne Psalm 119:89.

The Ceremonial Law was Temporary,
This system of "carnal ordinances" was "imposed on them until the time of reformation" Hebrews 9:10. It was a "shadow of good things to come" Hebrews 10:1 and was "abolished" or "nailed to the cross" when Christ, the true Sacrifice, died.

In the plan of salvation, each law has a specific, distinct role.

The Moral Law give us a knowledge of sin, it defines what sin is. We would not know lust unless the law said, "You shall not covet" Romans 7:7. It shows the whole world to be guilty before God. Romans 3:19.

The Ceremonial Law was a remedy for, it provided the "how" of seeking pardon through faith. It involved sacrifices, such as sin offerings, where blood was required for the remission of sins. These rites were "added because of transgressions" to lead the sinner to Christ Galatians 3:19.

A major distinction is found in how we relate to these laws today through the Gospel. Do we establish the moral law or the cerimonial law today??

Faith does not make void the Moral Law; rather, we "establish the law" because pardon recognizes the justice of the law we broke Romans 3:31. We still hate sin and continue to obey because of faith.

It was time to End the Shadows at the cross. Once the "Seed" (Christ) came, the schoolmaster of the ceremonial system was no longer needed because we are now justified by faith in the reality, not the shadow Galatians 3:24-25.

I hope this short study is clear, remember that the Moral Law is the standard in the judgment James 2:10-12, while the Ceremonial Law was the "handwriting of ordinances" that pointed us to our wonderful Savior who took our sins away Colossians 2:14-17. May God bless you as you walk in His light!
 
As I think more on that, more precisely, they asked the wise virgins to give some of their oil and were told, "find another way, or go into the market and find someone that is willing to be crushed for their iniquities and buy his oil." At any rate, even if they could've found an oil merchant, That Door was shut. And when they asked for Him to open it, His reply that He never knew them was a reflection of their recognition and acknowledgment of what had previously been His free offering, even as priceless then as it becomes so painfully obvious now.
The character can not be transfered from one person to another.

Oil is the holy Spirit and your experience or amont of the Holy Spirit can not be transfered to others.

5 made provision for a longer wait and provision for the unexpected. They're sure there relationship was strong. Strong enough for unexpected circumstances.

5 had a relationship that was strong enough at the time they fell asleep but they're relationship was not PREPARED for the unexpected.

Their lamps went out and they had no oil to relight their lamps..
 
Your whole point depends on one passage from Paul. But Jesus is the One who gives the truth of salvation, and Jesus never said that a person is automatically guaranteed heaven the moment they believe. He never said that repentance is not part of the gospel. In fact, Jesus preached repentance from the very beginning. “Repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 4:17 ). His apostles preached the same message. Peter said “Repent ye, and be baptized… unto the remission of your sins” (Acts 2:38). So repentance is part of the good news, not something to throw away.
Jesus taught that the Father gives the Spirit to those who obey Him and ask Him (Luke 11:13 ). He never said the Spirit is a guarantee no matter how a person lives. Jesus warned that a branch in Him can be cut off if it stops bearing fruit (John 15:2 ). If salvation were a guaranteed gold seal, Jesus would not warn His own disciples like that.

Jesus also said “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my Father” (Matthew 7:21 ). If entrance were guaranteed by one moment of belief, Jesus would not say this. He also said “He that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). Endurance is not automatic, it is a daily walk with Christ.
So how should a person behave if they truly believe in Jesus? Jesus answered it Himself. A true disciple keeps His word (John 8:31 ), loves God and neighbor (Matthew 22:37 to 39) , forgives others to be forgiven (Matthew 6:14 to 15 ), turns from sin (John 8:11 ), and walks in the light (John 12:35 to 36 ). This is the life of someone saved by God’s grace.

Jesus never promised a sealed, unconditional future. He promised eternal life to those who follow Him and remain in His word.
That is the truth He taught.

The overriding subject of the N.T is the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Romans 10:9-10
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead,
you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation.

A much simpler version of the gospel for the dummies.

Romans 10:13
For “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Acts 11:17
Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who
was I that I could stand in God’s way?

Romans 3:24
Being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

If anyone ever tells you that salvation is not a free gift given to those that believe, they are deeply deceived.
 
The wording of the five foolish virgins is all too familiar with Matthew’s Gospel: Matthew 25:11 - "Later, the other virgins came too, saying, ‘Lord, lord! Let us in!’ 12 But he replied, ‘I tell you the truth, I do not know you!"

Matthew 7:21 - "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven" but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven - (See John 6:40). 22 On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful works?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness!’ (Matthew 7:21-23)

The difference between the foolish virgins and the wise virgins: The wise virgins had oil for their lamps, while the foolish virgins did not. The wise virgins had the opportunity to obtain oil, and did so. The foolish virgins had plenty of opportunity to procure oil, but did not. It's possible to be in close contact with Christ, and with Christians, and yet not be saved. I am reminded of a similar passage in the Gospel of Luke:

Luke 13:23 - Someone asked him, "Lord, will only a few be saved?" So he said to them, 24 "Exert every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the head of the house gets up and shuts the door, then you will stand outside and start to knock on the door and beg him, ‘Lord, let us in!’ But he will answer you, ‘I don’t know where you come from.’ 26 Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 But he will reply, ‘I don’t know where you come from! Go away from me, all you evildoers!’ 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves thrown out. 29 Then people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and take their places at the banquet table in the kingdom of God. 30 But indeed, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last."

Jesus may indeed be warning us in this parable that there will be a number of people who look like Christians, who associate with Christians, and who even think they are Christians, who will be shocked to learn that they are not saved at the return of our Lord and Christ never knew them. What a sobering thought!
 
If the work is a work they undertake to become saved, then by definition, that makes it a work of righteousness, otherwise why do it if they believe their works brings them salvation? Those saved become saved not by anything they do - it is solely by grace as a gift from God.
No one can of themselves truly believe if they are spiritually dead, and all are spiritually dead until saved.
Poor Rorerg, you still do not understand that only Jesus decides who has salvation. It is By HIS words and His alone that we shall be judged, yes JUDGED! so in short LISTEN TO HIM! only Jesus can give eternal life, just follow Him listen to Him and do His will! Time is short ! the door will be shut soon , prepare. Jesus words are Life!
 
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The character can not be transfered from one person to another.

Oil is the holy Spirit and your experience or amont of the Holy Spirit can not be transfered to others.

5 made provision for a longer wait and provision for the unexpected. They're sure there relationship was strong. Strong enough for unexpected circumstances.

5 had a relationship that was strong enough at the time they fell asleep but they're relationship was not PREPARED for the unexpected.

Their lamps went out and they had no oil to relight their lamps..

That works if the oil is indeed representative of the Holy Spirit but there is nothing that indicates it necessarily is 'because they all had it.' What they all undoubtedly started with was a given to all, and enough of it until they fell asleep and then were awakened, the five foolish to the alarm that their lamps were going out compounded by the realization that the five wise regarded their oil as too precious to them to part with. Following the Stong's word for word says the foolish 'took their lamps but laid hold of no extra oil for herself(s)'

A current day parable might substitute flashlights and batteries with and without the extended life that is provided by a faith in Christ.
 
The overriding subject of the N.T is the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Romans 10:9-10
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead,
you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation.

A much simpler version of the gospel for the dummies.

Romans 10:13
For “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Acts 11:17
Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who
was I that I could stand in God’s way?

Romans 3:24
Being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

If anyone ever tells you that salvation is not a free gift given to those that believe, they are deeply deceived.

Your whole argument collapses the moment you leave Paul’s letters and stand before the words of Jesus and you shall stand judged on the words of Jesus one day!. You keep repeating “free gift” as if Jesus ever preached a salvation that requires nothing from the one who receives it. He didn’t. Jesus did not say “Repeat words after me and you are sealed forever.” That message is not from Him.

Go back to the beginning. When Jesus opened His ministry, He did not say “Believe only.” He said “Repent” (Matthew 4:17). That was His first command. If your gospel removes the first thing Jesus said, it is already broken.

Jesus also warned His own disciples that a branch in Him can be cut off if it stops bearing fruit (John 15:2). That is Jesus talking, not an opponent. If salvation were guaranteed by one moment, this warning makes no sense.

Jesus said not everyone who calls Him “Lord” will enter the kingdom but only the one who does the Father’s will (Matthew 7:21). Your version of salvation would make Jesus’ warning useless and they are not.

Jesus said the one who endures to the end will be saved (Matthew 24:13). Endurance is a life lived with Him.
Jesus said His true disciples are the ones who continue in His word (John 8:31). Not those who only speak a sentence. Not those who talk about grace while ignoring His commands.

Peter, before any letter of Paul existed, preached “Repent and be baptized… for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38). That is the apostolic gospel.

If your message cannot stand on Jesus’ words, it is not the gospel of Jesus. If your doctrine must run to Paul because Jesus contradicts it, then you have built your faith on a man instead of the Son of God.

Jesus is the Judge. Jesus is the standard. I repeat again, Jesus said His own words will judge us in the last day (John 12:48). If that does not shake you, nothing will. You better be certain the doctrines you follow are the words of Christ, the the only way to eternal life.
 
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Poor Rorerg, you still do not understand that only Jesus decides who has salvation. It is By HIS words and His alone that we shall be judged, yes JUDGED! so in short LISTEN TO HIM! only Jesus can give eternal life, just follow Him listen to Him and do His will! Time is short ! the door will be shut soon , prepare. Jesus words are Life!

2 Corinthians 5:17-20
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry
of reconciliation
, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses
against them
, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ,
as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.

You said, "only Jesus can give eternal life".

Your talking as if one must complete an obstacle course to be saved?

You are in direct conflict with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

As soon as you receive the Holy Spirit that is God's solemn promise that you are saved.

The only possible way to receive the Holy Spirit (the pledge) is by BELIEVING in Jesus Christ.

Of course, your belief in Jesus Christ must endure but enduring does not save you.

Only believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ saves.

The gospel is from above and has nothing to do with some girl in Battle Creek.
 
Poor Rorerg, you still do not understand that only Jesus decides who has salvation. It is By HIS words and His alone that we shall be judged, yes JUDGED! so in short LISTEN TO HIM! only Jesus can give eternal life, just follow Him listen to Him and do His will! Time is short ! the door will be shut soon , prepare. Jesus words are Life!

poor me? no poor you! you justify yourself by the law, and therefore, you are under the wrath of God.
 
That works if the oil is indeed representative of the Holy Spirit but there is nothing that indicates it necessarily is 'because they all had it.' What they all undoubtedly started with was a given to all, and enough of it until they fell asleep and then were awakened, the five foolish to the alarm that their lamps were going out compounded by the realization that the five wise regarded their oil as too precious to them to part with. Following the Stong's word for word says the foolish 'took their lamps but laid hold of no extra oil for herself(s)'

A current day parable might substitute flashlights and batteries with and without the extended life that is provided by a faith in Christ.

A powerful lesson about walking in the Holy Spirit.
 
Your whole argument collapses the moment you leave Paul’s letters and stand before the words of Jesus and you shall stand judged on the words of Jesus one day!. You keep repeating “free gift” as if Jesus ever preached a salvation that requires nothing from the one who receives it. He didn’t. Jesus did not say “Repeat words after me and you are sealed forever.” That message is not from Him.

Go back to the beginning. When Jesus opened His ministry, He did not say “Believe only.” He said “Repent” (Matthew 4:17). That was His first command. If your gospel removes the first thing Jesus said, it is already broken.

Jesus also warned His own disciples that a branch in Him can be cut off if it stops bearing fruit (John 15:2). That is Jesus talking, not an opponent. If salvation were guaranteed by one moment, this warning makes no sense.

Jesus said not everyone who calls Him “Lord” will enter the kingdom but only the one who does the Father’s will (Matthew 7:21). Your version of salvation would make Jesus’ warning useless and they are not.

Jesus said the one who endures to the end will be saved (Matthew 24:13). Endurance is a life lived with Him.
Jesus said His true disciples are the ones who continue in His word (John 8:31). Not those who only speak a sentence. Not those who talk about grace while ignoring His commands.

Peter, before any letter of Paul existed, preached “Repent and be baptized… for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38). That is the apostolic gospel.

If your message cannot stand on Jesus’ words, it is not the gospel of Jesus. If your doctrine must run to Paul because Jesus contradicts it, then you have built your faith on a man instead of the Son of God.

Jesus is the Judge. Jesus is the standard. I repeat again, Jesus said His own words will judge us in the last day (John 12:48). If that does not shake you, nothing will. You better be certain the doctrines you follow are the words of Christ, the the only way to eternal life.

How did you get so twisted regarding what event saves you?

Paul was the only apostle to explain the gospel precisely.

"If your message cannot stand on Jesus’ words, it is not the gospel of Jesus. If your doctrine must run
to Paul because Jesus contradicts it, then you have built your faith on a man instead of the Son of God
."

What did Jesus ultimately say?

Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things
from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.

Matthew 20:19
And will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.

Your going to get the apostle John from now on.

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name.

John 3:15
So that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:36
He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.

John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.

John 6:40
For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.

On and on it goes.
 
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A powerful lesson about walking in the Holy Spirit.


I'm not convinced it isn't about more life in general as per Jesus' declaration, "I am the light of the world." Granted, those that believe will have the Holy Spirit as I noticed in particular today when reading through the threads and Mark 16:16 was posted,
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

I noted that statement was made without saying, "whoever does not believe and is not baptized will be condemned" stirring my thinking on whether believing is baptisms and indeed, the term, kai, can denote a 'namely' sense as much as it might denote an 'additional' requirement.

At any rate, I think it goes without saying that those that the moment one believes they do so in agreement with the Holy Spirit, and are at that time baptized, and I can't see anyone, once baptized with the Holy Spirit ever 'running out of oil.' I'm not intimately familiar with the miracle of the oil at Hanukkah but the widow's oil would apply.
 
look at The context, the way they were given, when they were given, why they were given, the places they were kept, the difference between Moral and cerimonial.

I will give a short study, the bible verses back it up.

The Holy Scriptures provide a very clear and beautiful distinction between the Moral Law of Ten Commandments and the Ceremonial Law of types and shadows.

Understanding this difference is vital because the Moral Law reveals our need for a Savior, while the Ceremonial Law pointed forward to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God.

The moral law was spoken directly by the voice of God from Mount Sinai and written with His own finger on tables of stone. It is a perfect law that converts the soul Psalm 19:7.

The Ceremonial Law was given in a more private manner to Moses, who wrote these precepts, statutes, and judgments in a book. This "book of the law" was placed in the side of the ark. Deuteronomy 31:26.

The Bible teaches that one law is eternal, while the other was a temporary shadow.

The Moral Law is Eternal, Jesus emphasized that not one jot or tittle would pass from the law as long as heaven and earth remain Matthew 5:17-18. It is as immutable as God’s throne Psalm 119:89.

The Ceremonial Law was Temporary,
This system of "carnal ordinances" was "imposed on them until the time of reformation" Hebrews 9:10. It was a "shadow of good things to come" Hebrews 10:1 and was "abolished" or "nailed to the cross" when Christ, the true Sacrifice, died.

In the plan of salvation, each law has a specific, distinct role.

The Moral Law give us a knowledge of sin, it defines what sin is. We would not know lust unless the law said, "You shall not covet" Romans 7:7. It shows the whole world to be guilty before God. Romans 3:19.

The Ceremonial Law was a remedy for, it provided the "how" of seeking pardon through faith. It involved sacrifices, such as sin offerings, where blood was required for the remission of sins. These rites were "added because of transgressions" to lead the sinner to Christ Galatians 3:19.

A major distinction is found in how we relate to these laws today through the Gospel. Do we establish the moral law or the cerimonial law today??

Faith does not make void the Moral Law; rather, we "establish the law" because pardon recognizes the justice of the law we broke Romans 3:31. We still hate sin and continue to obey because of faith.

It was time to End the Shadows at the cross. Once the "Seed" (Christ) came, the schoolmaster of the ceremonial system was no longer needed because we are now justified by faith in the reality, not the shadow Galatians 3:24-25.

I hope this short study is clear, remember that the Moral Law is the standard in the judgment James 2:10-12, while the Ceremonial Law was the "handwriting of ordinances" that pointed us to our wonderful Savior who took our sins away Colossians 2:14-17. May God bless you as you walk in His light!
You speculate just as much as vassal does.

The truth is there is no passage in the entire Bible that tells us which parts of the Law are "moral", which are "ceremonial", and which are "civil". Every division is speculative and usually based on a pre-existing bias.

Paul (Galatians 3:10) and James (2:10) both make clear that adherence to the ENTIRE law is necessary. You don't get to treat it as a buffet from which you pick and choose what suits you.

Further, every single one of you legalists is in the camp of the Judaizers, who attempted to enforce the Law given to Israel on Gentile believers.

You have fallen from grace.