Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Just as I said, you take verses and mutilate them simply because they hurt your ears.
That just means that you think that you should be God instead. . . .
It is very true that the offer of salvation goes to all. But, it is also true that it is provided for His people only. Get over it!
Even b4 they were believers, and is why they become believers. Others who never become believers were the non elect
Well then we can conclude, that the "god of Calvinism" offers salvation to all, but then is provided to his people only, means this god is duplicitous.
Notice small "g."
The scriptures you gave do not say that the elect are only dome and not all and of course again you keep ignoring the scripturesI gave you have no respect for God's word unless it fits your box of theology I cannot be any more clear the scriptures themselves are against you and you evade them because you know you cannot refute them.
He is not obligated to save anyone. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him. . . . .
It's amazing that the Crucified Christ..... The Life,death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ plays no role in your "election."
Reformed/calvie/tulip theory doesn't need a Savior......Just a sovereign pick.
The DBR of Christ saved the elect, what are you talking about ? Its a shame you present a christ that died and rose again and saved no one but made it possible lol
This is exactly why the Reformed/calvie/tulip theory has absolutely no security/hope/trust.
1 Cor 1:21
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
This would make a good topic in and of itself, because the message is there for all to hear, [if it were only possible]. But, man is so corrupt that he will not turn from his ways. He takes pleasure in earthly things, and must be given a new heart to hear/trust/believe.
These are the fruits that we receive by grace. They do not come from man himself, but are gifts given by God.
So my question would be, is the message an offer or simply a statement of the requirements for salvation?
Wrong again! We have put our trust in Christ alone, not ourself. Our trust is in what Christ has done, not what we have done.
The message of Salvation isnt an offer, its a preached declaration of the Person and Work of Jesus Christ, who He is, and His work that He has done and its glorious accomplishments for the elect. The requirements for salvation have been fulfilled by Christ.
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Say the lord searches your heart he knows your heart he's knows what words your going to say before you speak them. That's called having knowledge of every aspect of your life.
Well guess what he searches the heart before salvation is given to.
Because guess what you owe God obedience, which means adoration as well, and if he doesn't see it in your heart then chop chop of to the scrap heap you go.
the elect are saved people
Psalms 139:1-3
Say the lord searches your heart he knows your heart he's knows what words your going to say before you speak them. That's called having knowledge of every aspect of your life.
Well guess what he searches the heart before salvation is given to.
Because guess what you owe God obedience, which means adoration as well, and if he doesn't see it in your heart then chop chop of to the scrap heap you go.