The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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[Rom 8:2 KJV] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Notice that Paul did nothing of himself to be placed under the law of Christ. The law itself did it.
Without Jesus we are lost.
We are guilty without the gift of salvation.

We are told we must have faith.
And faith without works is dead.
 
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The “law of the Spirit of life in Christ” is the new life a person receives when they follow Jesus, obey His teachings, turn away from sin, and allow the Holy Spirit to guide them.
This life is different from the old life controlled by sin, which ends in death.
Jesus gives freedom from sin’s control, teaches us through His Spirit, and leads us into true life.

Absolutely wrong! You didn't understand the verse and your reply is non-scriptural. I included the comment that according to the verse itself (if you read it) that the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus ITSELF, MADE Paul - but NOT by PAUL- free from the law of sin and death. Paul played no part at all in his being placed under the law of Christ.
 
Without Jesus we are lost.
We are guilty without the gift of salvation.

We are told we must have faith.
And faith without works is dead.

Right, so salvation is by Christ's faith, not man's faith which makes Christ Savior, not man. And thereby, it is not of law.
 
The problem with your position is that it is impossible to keep the law today. Not “challenging”, not “difficult”; impossible.
This is important...

In the flesh, by our own efforts we will fail. We can not keep the law by our fleshly natures. (Fallen natures). While we cannot keep the commandments in our own strength, Christ provides the divine aid necessary to overcome every temptation and live in harmony with His precepts.

We need to realize our need for God to do for us what the law cannot do because of our sinful nature. Romans 8:3.
Jesus Himself stated that apart from Him, we can do nothing of eternal value. John 15:5.

We have all broken the law and come short of God's glory, making us dependent on Christ for both pardon and future strength. Romans 3:23.

The secret to obeying the law is not "trying harder" in human effort, but receiving the grace and power that Jesus offers.
All Power is His, Jesus possesses all power in heaven and on earth, and He shares this power with those who trust Him. Matthew 28:18.
Through the merits of the Saviour, the believer receives divine aid in the struggle against sin. Hebrews 11:34.
When Christ dwells in our hearts by faith, His righteousness is imputed to us, and His Spirit enables us to walk in His ways. 2Corinthians 5:21.


Through the new covenant, God writes His law upon our hearts and minds, making obedience our delight. Hebrews 10:16.
While we are saved by grace, those who enter the city of God are those who do His commandments. Revelation 22:14.

Faith in Jesus empowers us to keep the holy law.
 
The laws that were a type, (shadow, school master,) were given to show the plan of salvation. They were nailed to the cross.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,....

These laws ceased at the cross.

God's law did not change. Jesus encouraged us to obey the 10 commandments.

The 10 commandments have not changed. Murder, stealing and lying is still a sin, all 10 are still there to help us understand what sin is.

You might not like my answer but I answered your question.
You dodged the question with bafflegab, but there’s no point in expecting a straight answer from someone who twists Scripture.

There is no passage in Scripture that divides the law into parts that were nailed to the cross and parts that weren’t.
 
This is important...

In the flesh, by our own efforts we will fail. We can not keep the law by our fleshly natures. (Fallen natures). While we cannot keep the commandments in our own strength, Christ provides the divine aid necessary to overcome every temptation and live in harmony with His precepts.

We need to realize our need for God to do for us what the law cannot do because of our sinful nature. Romans 8:3.
Jesus Himself stated that apart from Him, we can do nothing of eternal value. John 15:5.

We have all broken the law and come short of God's glory, making us dependent on Christ for both pardon and future strength. Romans 3:23.

The secret to obeying the law is not "trying harder" in human effort, but receiving the grace and power that Jesus offers.
All Power is His, Jesus possesses all power in heaven and on earth, and He shares this power with those who trust Him. Matthew 28:18.
Through the merits of the Saviour, the believer receives divine aid in the struggle against sin. Hebrews 11:34.
When Christ dwells in our hearts by faith, His righteousness is imputed to us, and His Spirit enables us to walk in His ways. 2Corinthians 5:21.


Through the new covenant, God writes His law upon our hearts and minds, making obedience our delight. Hebrews 10:16.
While we are saved by grace, those who enter the city of God are those who do His commandments. Revelation 22:14.

Faith in Jesus empowers us to keep the holy law.
Faith does not help you find the temple or a currently serving Levitical priest.

Failure to obey the law in its smallest detail is sin, and breaking the smallest ordinance has the same result as breaking the most significant.
 
Right, so salvation is by Christ's faith, not man's faith which makes Christ Savior, not man. And thereby, it is not of law.


Jesus MUST be your Lord too, not just your Savior. You can't ignore that part of Him. God gives His Holy Spirit only to those willing to obey Him to enable and cause them to obey Him, thus making Him their Lord and not just their Savior. If you don't have the Holy Spirit who makes God's people obedient to Him, you don't belong to God, even if you only accept just the Savior part of Him.


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Right, so salvation is by Christ's faith, not man's faith which makes Christ Savior, not man. And thereby, it is not of law.
Christ provides the divine aid necessary to overcome every temptation and live in harmony with His precepts.
But we need to realize our faults so we can repent.
We need to have faith in Christ or we will fail.

It seems like you believe we do nothing at all.
If that is the case I can wait for Jesus to do everything and not even make any effort to grow closer, improve my faith and relationship.

Don't we need to buy, and repent....
Rev 3:18-19
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
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Faith does not help you find the temple or a currently serving Levitical priest.

Failure to obey the law in its smallest detail is sin, and breaking the smallest ordinance has the same result as breaking the most significant.
Can Christ provide the means for you to overcome?
I have faith that Christ can, and wants to.

He overcame all sin, so He could impart to us the same victory.

We are the temple and Jesus will dwell in us if we allow Him.
 
Jesus MUST be your Lord too, not just your Savior. You can't ignore that part of Him. God gives His Holy Spirit only to those willing to obey Him to enable and cause them to obey Him, thus making Him their Lord and not just their Savior. If you don't have the Holy Spirit who makes God's people obedient to Him, you don't belong to God, even if you only accept just the Savior part of Him.


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Completely wrong. One's willingness has absolutely nothing to do with it. All of the attributes that a true Christian possesses, come FROM salvation; they do not lead to salvation, including the recognizing of Christ as Lord and Savior, which is the result of being given a new heart, a new spirit, a renewed mind, and of being indwelt with the Holy Spirit - all byproducts of salvation. It is all of God, nothing by/from man
 
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Completely wrong. One's willingness has absolutely nothing to do with it. All of the attributes that a true Christian possesses, come FROM salvation; they do not lead to salvation, including the recognizing of Christ as Lord and Savior, which is the result of being given a new heart, a new spirit, a renewed mind, and of being indwelt with the Holy Spirit - all byproducts of salvation. It is all of God, nothing by/from man

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And I should have also included being made spiritually alive by God from being spiritually dead.
 
Christ provides the divine aid necessary to overcome every temptation and live in harmony with His precepts.
But we need to realize our faults so we can repent.
We need to have faith in Christ or we will fail.

It seems like you believe we do nothing at all.
If that is the case I can wait for Jesus to do everything and not even make any effort to grow closer, improve my faith and relationship.

Don't we need to buy, and repent....
Rev 3:18-19
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
You keep focusing on obedience as not violating the commandments. Obedience to the law is far more than that, and until you recognize that, your confusion about the new covenant will remain.
 
Can Christ provide the means for you to overcome?
I have faith that Christ can, and wants to.

He overcame all sin, so He could impart to us the same victory.

We are the temple and Jesus will dwell in us if we allow Him.
Only under the new covenant. You aren’t there as long as you hold to the Sinai covenant.
 
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Walking in the spirit doesn't transgress the 10 because doing so fulfills the righteousness demanded by the 10 since the spirit only does God's will. God is not interested in us following letters; he wants us to do righteousness, and righteousness can be accomplished without following the letter.

For example, if someone follows Christ's words to not hate, then he will not murder. A person can be completely ignorant of the 5th commandment and still fulfill the righteousness demanded by it.

Another example is the 4th commandment. The righteousness demanded by it is to know that God is sanctifying us.

Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Exodus 31:13
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. Ezekiel 20:12
We can be completely ignorant of the 4th commandment and still fulfill the righteousness demanded by it because we have the indwelling holy spirit as a sign that God is sanctifying us, and through faith cease from works of the flesh.

Israel ceasing from physical work on the sabbaths in order to know that God was sanctifying them (rather than their own works) was a shadow pointing to the reality of our ceasing from works of the flesh in order to know through the spirit that God is sanctifying us (instead of our own works doing so).
I'm happy to know that we agree on some things!
 
Completely wrong. One's willingness has absolutely nothing to do with it. All of the attributes that a true Christian possesses, come FROM salvation; they do not lead to salvation, including the recognizing of Christ as Lord and Savior, which is the result of being given a new heart, a new spirit, and a renewed mind, and of being indwelt with the Holy Spirit - all byproducts of salvation. It is all of God, nothing by/from man


The reality is that most people who claim God as their Savior, do not allow Him to be their Lord even if they claim He is especially among Calvinists and OSAS believers. This is just easy believism without God's genuine work because they're not willing to give up control of their own lives.

So saying what you just posted doesn't mean much to God. He will only count those who have yielded to His Holy Spirit, who have learned not to grieve or quench Him, as belonging to Him. Those people obey God through His Holy Spirit and not just give lip service or mental assent.


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Yes Jesus death and resurrection was most important

Most important? His death and resurrection are central to the entire Bible. There is nothing in the 66 books that are more important than that. That, is the reason that God the Father sent Him to earth, not some convoluted backup plan for the commandments or any other type of law keeping will satisfy God's wrath agains all sin.

Jesus underscored the significance of following God's commandments, affirming, "If ye love me, keep my commandments"

Uh huh and then He said that the commandments could be summed up in just 2:

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22

Plainly, Jesus whom you quote, never said obey the 10 commandments. He put God first and following, relationship with other people.

However, Jesus also warned of the consequences for those who reject Him and refuse to repent: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal" (Matthew 25:46). Revelation further unveils the destiny of the righteous, depicting a glorious future where God's kingdom reigns supreme: "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away" (Revelation 21:1).

You know, the Bible also states that those who insist on law keeping and mistakenly believe they can keep the commandments, have cursed themselves. That is because no one can keep all the law. Not back then and not now.

For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, because it is written, Everyone who does not do everything written in the book of the law is cursed. Gal. 3:10 If anyone should state, well that's just Paul and he is not authoratative, you need to refresh your memory as Paul is quoting from the Old Testament., Deut. 27:26

The Bible is about God's revelation of Himself through Jesus. The commandments do not reveal the heart of God. The commandments reveal sin and continue to reveal sin. However, faith and trust in Jesus as your Redeemer, your Savior from sin, will save you. God will not count your sins against you. You are forgiven and can call God your father and you are welcom in His presence any time.

God is love. He is not hate or judgement or punishment and He is not just waiting to hit you over the head if you mess up. Jesus disciple says this:

5And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us. I John


So no one is without sin and no one can keep the commandments, which are a part of the law and you are cursed if you believe the commandments are the covenant. Not my words; the words of scripture.

 
If you aim low
Have the hope of never overcoming sin

That's as high as you will reach.

If you aim high
Have the hope of overcoming all sin by the power of Christ in us.

Thats what is possible.

Where is your faith? Are you believing by faith in the low standard or the high standard.

I am not claiming perfection but I will continue to move onward and upward with Jesus, knowing I can go higher with Jesus each day.

He is my golden standard and I won't stop until I'm closer to Him. He is drawing me closer each day.

By the power of Jesus He can enable me to overcome.

Joh 15:4-5
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
 
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He overcame all sin, so He could impart to us the same victory.

Sorry, no. You cannot be Jesus' little helper.

The Bible declares we cannot overcome all sin. You say Jesus 'could' impart to us the same victory that allowed God to ressurect Him, so what then? Is Jesus being un-cooperative or maybe selfish if He does not make us just like Him on this earth? IT IS IMPOSSIBLE AS LONG AS WE LIVE IN SINFUL FLESH!

Check out what Jesus' disciple John has to say about that:

5And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us. I John


So, no. Jesus is not in charge of your flesh. He died so your SPIRIT could be in relationship with God. You flesh ain't gonna make it to the afterlife. We get new bodies for a reason.
 
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If you aim low
Have the hope of never overcoming sin

That's as high as you will reach.

If you aim high
Have the hope of overcoming all sin by the power of Christ in us.

Where is your faith? Are you believing by faith in the low standard or the high standard.

Scripture? or call John a liar. Walking in the light means we do not hide our sin and we stay in fellowhsip with God. We do not pretend we have achieved god like status and are now sinless.

There is no standard. Faith in Jesus declares us sinless before God, not our efforts or misplace belief.