Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Brian...

In many ways, we can not know the Word of God until it is properly taught to the meaning that was intended.
Especially, what is intended in the original languages of Scripture, that can get too often skewed in mainstream translations.


There have been times when I was shocked to realize that we can not extract the intended meaning by merely reading a translation that made me feel a certain way.

Here is why...

Isaiah 55:8

For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.

If what I said is truth?

Then, God must provide for us quality teachers.
2 Timothy 4:3, tells us that most teachers are not going to do the job as God wants it done.


For the GENUINELY seeking. Not simply because they were told it is good to be seeking.
They find themselves seeking and will refuse to settle.


Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.
I have been sharing with others one particular teacher who pastors themselves have listened to for their own private study.

He is not the only one. But the only one I have found to teach on such a level that has what is needed to bring Christians into full maturity in Christ.

If he is right for you?
The Spirit will bear witness to it.


https://www.rbthieme.org/index.html#tabs-1

No money will be asked for.


grace and peace!
I suppose I can give him a try but honestly I love Troy brewer you ever heard of him?
 
He is addicted to what he does.


Don't be like an enabler.
you know fine well you threatened me last week saying my days where numbered here, you can deny it all you like, your intension is ruin people here at cc
 
Salvation is offered to all. Jesus only died for the elect.

Jesus' death is only benefitted by those whom will believe.

God, knowing who they will believe, had elected them to become something special after they become regenerated.
That is - To become the Bride of Christ!
That is what the Church was elected to.
But, not, salvation itself.

You need to sort out your dominoes correctly.
Sorry...
You are placing them where they don't belong.

Jesus died for all mankind.

1 John 2:2​
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours
but also for the sins of the whole world.

Stop defying God!

LOOK AT WHAT IT SAYS!
 
No not really. On the contrary, a lifetime of dedicated effort and a PhD is not nearly sufficient.
The Scriptures have fractal features, holographic type phenomenon and have definitely code-like structures embedded within.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/12917324470/

Are you willing to hear this? I doubt it. Most will not take the time or effort because most really do not care much at all.
Bible verse Barbies and bible verse Kens never matriculate.

Heb 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

@studier might be interested in this Samson series. Staggering stuff. Divine watermarks galore.

Thanks, cv5. Will listen soon.

I've read articles about grammatical structures in the Torah, one I'm thinking about as I recall was concerning Exodus, that are so complex that it's difficult to follow even the explanation. I think it was Chuck Missler who used to speak of old rabbinical literature that speculated that the design of the universe is in the Torah. Wouldn't be surprised.
 
What is it that he does that he is addicted to?
your wasting your time, he's had hundreds of chances given to apologise for his comments and he won't, because he sees himself as completely justified.

I said to him a few days ago he should stop hounding magenta , and then he replied, and even admitted he was. But then said he had good reason to, Which he doesn't, a person like him can't be reasoned with, unless you hate what he does
 
your wasting your time, he's had hundreds of chances given to apologise for his comments and he won't, because he sees himself as completely justified.

I said to him a few days ago he should stop hounding magenta , and then he replied, and even admitted he was. But then said he had good reason to, Which he doesn't, a person like him can't be reasoned with, unless you hate what he does
Oh he was hounding magenta? that is so not cool magenta is a true blue blessing and also wise and knowledgable
 
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I am so sorry you had to deal with this I was in your position on here a couple years ago
As for the situtation at hand it may be best to walk away even though it may be they follow you around the forum like certain people did to me a couple years ago


Have you taken the time to see how he has approached others?
Addressing serious doctrinal issues with mocking YouTube monkey videos is constructive?

Did you get in trouble for doing that years ago?

We all must get resistance.
But, some set themselves up to be steering that narrative away from discovering truth that was being touched upon, so that nothing gets accomplished.

That is his problem.
 
Have you taken the time to see how he has approached others?
Addressing serious doctrinal issues with mocking YouTube monkey videos is constructive?

Did you get in trouble for doing that years ago?

We all must get resistance.
But, some set themselves up to be steering that narrative away from discovering truth that was being touched upon, so that nothing gets accomplished.

That is his problem.
I have not seen this mocking videos from him but I have certainly seen it from @cv5 and I already got on to him for it if Jordan responded in a mocking way then I would get on to him too or rather I would remind him to not respond to evil with evil as U myself admit I have responded to certain people in anger from being harrassed so much but I should not have

You need maturity to be in debates such as this and it rewuires that one is able to handle the heat that comes with it without responding with evil or slander
 
Oh he was hounding magenta? that is so not cool magenta is a true blue blessing and also wise and knowledgable
yes he is and he's admitted he is, his words words where, I'm justified in hounding magenta
 
Have you taken the time to see how he has approached others?
Addressing serious doctrinal issues with mocking YouTube monkey videos is constructive?

Did you get in trouble for doing that years ago?

We all must get resistance.
But, some set themselves up to be steering that narrative away from discovering truth that was being touched upon, so that nothing gets accomplished.

That is his problem.
your suppose to be the one who likes monkeys, mr monkey,

And the reason why where arguing goes back well before I posted any monkey videos, which by the way, where posted for a bit of banter, which you even joked about.

You have a short memory don't you.
 
I have not seen this mocking videos from him but I have certainly seen it from @cv5 and I already got on to him for it if Jordan responded in a mocking way then I would get on to him too or rather I would remind him to not respond to evil with evil as U myself admit I have responded to certain people in anger from being harrassed so much but I should not have

You need maturity to be in debates such as this and it rewuires that one is able to handle the heat that comes with it without responding with evil or slander
he's a hypocrite he's even joked about the monkey videos
 
Have you taken the time to see how he has approached others?
Addressing serious doctrinal issues with mocking YouTube monkey videos is constructive?

Did you get in trouble for doing that years ago?

We all must get resistance.
But, some set themselves up to be steering that narrative away from discovering truth that was being touched upon, so that nothing gets accomplished.

That is his problem.
this is just more more monkey business, coz your bananas.

The reason why we started arguing was because you've been belittling people, and because you condemned Cameron to hell since then you haven't repented, you've chose to hate me for correcting you, and given me more reasons to argue with you.
 
I have not seen this mocking videos from him but I have certainly seen it from @cv5 and I already got on to him for it if Jordan responded in a mocking way then I would get on to him too or rather I would remind him to not respond to evil with evil as U myself admit I have responded to certain people in anger from being harrassed so much but I should not have

You need maturity to be in debates such as this and it rewuires that one is able to handle the heat that comes with it without responding with evil or slander

True... But he does not advance.
He only distracts.
So?

The mature thing was to put him on Ignore.
His problem with that?
Many agreed to put him on Ignore.

Now he's seeking for you to do something about.
Hence.. He wants you to be his enabler somehow.

Here is a typical response of his to contribute to a more serious discussion others were having.
https://christianchat.com/threads/can-we-really-exercise-free-will.218061/post-5660285

He peppers the discussion with more YouTube videos that only make an emotional statement without giving something to think with.
If he were in a classroom, the teacher would have him removed from the room so others who want to could learn.

He is not on the right emotional level for what is taking place.
Gets bored.
Then seeks attention.

Here is one more of his "helpful" posts for others to be built up with.
https://christianchat.com/threads/can-we-really-exercise-free-will.218061/post-5660325

He just disrupts and insults.

He wants to make friends with someone as if it were on the level of kids in elementary school.
We are here to socialize and to learn something.

He raises the importance of friendship above knowing truth.
As if truth gets in the way of being friends.
 
I will five it a listen but you need to settle down with your attacks and insults on people your comin across as a very hateful person not a Christian at all now think upon the fruits of the spirit do you show any of that?
No Blain, I am not "not a Christian" just because you are not the boss of me.
 
I suppose I can give him a try but honestly I love Troy brewer you ever heard of him?
If you want to learn what the Scriptures actually reveal?
R.B. Thieme is a good source.

If you want commentary on every day life and current issues?
Then (from what I can see - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseCmvPMpcyL456F6Gm2FWw ) Troy Brewer is your man.

They are entirely different.
One teaches sound doctrine as his gift.

Your choice.
 
Hmm... so you don't think that the spirit leads us to all truth? you would rather use your minds capability to understand?

You do not seem to be understanding what I'm saying. It is not about leaning on ones own reasoning, it is about bringing one's reasoning to the word of God and using the brain God gave us under the filling of the Spirit.

Can you honestly sit there and tell me you do not think about what the scriptures are saying? I'm sure you do think and I suspect at times, think quite deeply.

Psalm 1:2b
And in His law he meditates day and night.

Well yes that makes sense but I never said it was how one feels rather I said it is how one hears the spirit of God I mean do you ever hear his voice in your mind or do you hear him inside your heart?

I have explained this. It is not the Spirit speaking to us directly (except maybe on rare occasions) but it is the Spirit recalling to our mind the word we have learned. If we do not know the word then the Spirit is not speaking to us, it is our own imagining which is why we must bring our thoughts to the word to verify their veracity. All the Spirit speaks to me comes into my mind via the word.

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

This is how we hear the Spirit. It is not some random thinking that simply pops into our head or some rightness we sense in our heart.

If you are feeling some type of "movement" in the organ we call our heart then I cannot recommend strong enough for you to go see a doctor.
 
True... But he does not advance.
He only distracts.
So?

The mature thing was to put him on Ignore.
His problem with that?
Many agreed to put him on Ignore.

Now he's seeking for you to do something about.
Hence.. He wants you to be his enabler somehow.

Here is a typical response of his to contribute to a more serious discussion others were having.
https://christianchat.com/threads/can-we-really-exercise-free-will.218061/post-5660285

He peppers the discussion with more YouTube videos that only make an emotional statement without giving something to think with.
If he were in a classroom, the teacher would have him removed from the room so others who want to could learn.

He is not on the right emotional level for what is taking place.
Gets bored.
Then seeks attention.

Here is one more of his "helpful" posts for others to be built up with.
https://christianchat.com/threads/can-we-really-exercise-free-will.218061/post-5660325

He just disrupts and insults.

He wants to make friends with someone as if it were on the level of kids in elementary school.
We are here to socialize and to learn something.

He raises the importance of friendship above knowing truth.
As if truth gets in the way of being friends.
discussion between brothers should be in friendship,

And I'm not impressed by your excuses to condemn me, or your attempt to turn another person against me, rather than correct your own behaviour. , my monkey videos are nothing compared to your insults against me, calling me a spiritual loser, along with telling me I need to to listen to you above the correct teachings on God's will, along with you feeling me I'm in the wrong to believe God can make me and people believe.

Then theres your assassination Of Gods grace, calling is irresistible grace nothing to people.

Then theres the time you hated me because you had me down as a Calvinist,


Then theres all the times you have been rude, and hating other people for a little thing like free will.

Then theres all the time youve assassinated other people's character.

Then theres the fake user names you set up to get a response of magenta because she won't talk to you.

your a bad egg.
 
Jesus does not go to hell.
hmmm ...

Psalm 139:7-8

7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.


the Lord Jesus Christ went somewhere to preach to these guys ...

1 Peter 3:19-20

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


there is only one Savior ... His offering/sacrifice is sufficient to cover all the sin of all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

1 Timothy 4:9-11

9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.

10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

11 These things command and teach.

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Just from what I have seen from him you are absolutely correct and I do not wish to encourage him in any way but he does need to be told off and take accountability not that he would of course

We will all give account on The Day. Until then, it is to be done through those in authority (in this instance moderators) and not through constantly judging each other.

If you or anyone wants wants to do some "telling off" then the best place to start is with oneself for once one turns it out to others, there will be no end, as we are all guilty in some way at some point.

There is also the problem that in many instances (and I'm talking generally about this form of communication) that attitudes are misunderstood and are not what people perceive them to be.

Ultimately, it is best to simply ignore the people we "clash" with to avoid unnecessary stress and not pander to people's emotional outbursts. :)