The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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The 10 commandments aren't very practical for living a righteous life. Partiality is a very common sin among mankind, but it is not listed in the 10. Nor are many other commandments that Jesus declared and expects us to follow. The 10 are useful for instruction in righteousness, but not for walking in Christ's righteousness. Following Christ fulfills the righteousness required by the 10. For example, if you don't hate, you don't murder
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33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
"MY LAW".. the word Law in Hebrew is TORAH #8451, The Torah will, must become our nature.
the 10 Commandments are a part of Torah.
there are three parts to Torah law: the Commandments, the Statutes and the Judgements
Again; I find it impossible to comprehend why THE MANY so resist obeying?
IF the entire world kept only the last 6 Commandments the whole world would be at peace --- why is that so hard to understand?? and yet they refuse as has been the case since day one.
Searching the law for instruction on how to walk rightly is very useful, but using it to measure our righteousness is vain.
For example, it's very edifying to understand that the purpose for the 4th commandment was as a sign for Israel to know that God was the one sanctifying them, rather than themselves through their works. Through this we gain a deeper understanding that weekly sabbaths were merely a shadow of the reality of ceasing from works of the flesh and knowing that God is sanctifying us through the sign of the witness of the holy spirit within us. This faith and trust in God fulfills the righteousness required by the 4th commandment.
But taking Saturdays off doesn't do anything for righteousness, and as a result of it being done for righteousness' sake, tends to work self-righteousness.
And thus it is written, the letter kills, but the spirit brings life
That's a deceitful, manipulative word twist that you know I didn't say. Works of the flesh are not holy living. Ceasing from them is holiness, and thus a fulfillment of the 4th commandment. Remember the sabbath to keep it holy becomes remember Christ's works to keep yourselves holy.
The bible is the bases not our mental ideas or opinions. Let's use the bible only.
Do we obey the 10 commandments today?
I can not see any bible verse that states we should make any of the 10 commandments void.
Bible point 1. There is a difference between the laws.
People do away with the Ten Commandments by mingling them with hundreds of other laws and calling them “ordinances” instead of commandments. Such a radical effort has been made to dilute the force of the only words of the Bible that God wrote with His own hand. By saying the Ten Commandments were a part of the mosaic law of ordinances that ended at the cross, we are no more obligated to obey the decalogue than we are to offer lambs in sacrifice.
They are not the same....
Moses explained it to the people at Mt. Horeb. “And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it” (Deuteronomy 4:13, 14). Please notice how Moses clearly separated the Ten Commandments, which “He commanded you,” from the statutes which “He commanded me” to give the people.
“Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them” (2 Kings 21:8).
“Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him” (Daniel 9:11)
Once more we see “thy law” and “the law of Moses,” are not the same.
A difference between the law of God and the law of Moses lies in the way they were recorded and preserved. The 10 was Written by God on Stone and placed inside the ark. (Deuteronomy 4:13, Exodus 31:18). And Moses wrote in a book "..saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26).
There are several distinctions in the two laws. They had different authors, were written on different material, were placed in different locations, and had totally different content.
Point 1.. The bible makes a distinction between the law of Moses and Gods law.
Do we obey the 10 commandments today?
I can not see any bible verse that states we should make any of the 10 commandments void.
Bible point 1. There is a difference between the laws.
People do away with the Ten Commandments by mingling them with hundreds of other laws and calling them “ordinances” instead of commandments. Such a radical effort has been made to dilute the force of the only words of the Bible that God wrote with His own hand. By saying the Ten Commandments were a part of the mosaic law of ordinances that ended at the cross, we are no more obligated to obey the decalogue than we are to offer lambs in sacrifice.
They are not the same....
Moses explained it to the people at Mt. Horeb. “And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it” (Deuteronomy 4:13, 14). Please notice how Moses clearly separated the Ten Commandments, which “He commanded you,” from the statutes which “He commanded me” to give the people.
“Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them” (2 Kings 21:8).
“Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him” (Daniel 9:11)
Once more we see “thy law” and “the law of Moses,” are not the same.
A difference between the law of God and the law of Moses lies in the way they were recorded and preserved. The 10 was Written by God on Stone and placed inside the ark. (Deuteronomy 4:13, Exodus 31:18). And Moses wrote in a book "..saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26).
There are several distinctions in the two laws. They had different authors, were written on different material, were placed in different locations, and had totally different content.
Point 1.. The bible makes a distinction between the law of Moses and Gods law.
Where in the bible and by who's authority does this change happen. ???
The 10 commandments fail because they demand righteousness without showing how to do righteousness. Christ's commandments are a practical application of the 10 that actually teach how to walk righteously.
For example, don't lust after women and you won't commit adultery.
Treat others like you want to be treated and you won't steal or covet what you neighbor has.
Seek others' glory and honor rather than your own and you will honor your parents.
Walk in the spirit through faith to cease from works of the flesh and trust that God is sanctifying and you won't try to justify yourself through your own works (which is what the 4th commandment was all about)
For example, don't lust after women and you won't commit adultery.
Treat others like you want to be treated and you won't steal or covet what you neighbor has.
Seek others' glory and honor rather than your own and you will honor your parents.
Walk in the spirit through faith to cease from works of the flesh and trust that God is sanctifying and you won't try to justify yourself through your own works (which is what the 4th commandment was all about)
Walk in the spirit through faith to cease from works of the flesh and trust that God is sanctifying and you won't try to justify yourself through your own works (which is what the 4th commandment was all about)[/QUOTE]
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typical play on words to render the Commandments of God of no effect.
here are words from Paul, Paul, The Paul used by those refusing to obey!
Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law, sin [was] (caused) dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which [was ordained] to life, I found [to be] unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew [me].
12 Wherefore the law (THE TORAH) [is] holy, and the commandment (all 10) holy, and just, and good.
Paul is stating:
the Torah is set aside for Holy use
The Commandments are also set aside for HOLY use
The Commandment are JUST, not evil, not harsh, but produce righteous judgements
And they are GOOD
will the above change any minds ?? nope:
COMMENT:
typical play on words to render the Commandments of God of no effect.
here are words from Paul, Paul, The Paul used by those refusing to obey!
Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law, sin [was] (caused) dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which [was ordained] to life, I found [to be] unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew [me].
12 Wherefore the law (THE TORAH) [is] holy, and the commandment (all 10) holy, and just, and good.
Paul is stating:
the Torah is set aside for Holy use
The Commandments are also set aside for HOLY use
The Commandment are JUST, not evil, not harsh, but produce righteous judgements
And they are GOOD
will the above change any minds ?? nope:
Why do the legalists so resist understanding that obeying the law is IMPOSSIBLE today?
Obeying the law means having a temple and Levitical priesthood… for starters.
God knows what He commands better than any man. To say the Ten Commandments are “not very practical” is to forget who gave them. God does not give incomplete or flawed instruction.
The Ten Commandments were never meant to be a long list covering every single action. Jesus Himself explained this. He did not replace the commandments, He summarized them.
Matthew 22:37–40 (KJV)
“Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”
“All the law” hangs on these two. That means the Ten Commandments are contained within them, not removed by them.
For example:
- If you love your neighbor, you will not murder, steal, lie, or covet.
- If you love God, you will not worship idols, misuse His name, or despise His holy time.
Scripture is clear that God’s law is perfect, not lacking.
Psalm 19:7 (KJV)
“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.”
Deuteronomy 4:2 (KJV)
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it.”
Jesus did not say, “Follow Me instead of the commandments.” He said:
John 14:15 (KJV)
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
And He showed that sin begins inside, not only in actions.
Matthew 5:21–22, 27–28 (KJV)
Jesus shows that anger relates to murder, and lust to adultery. He is deepening, Magnifying the commandments, not dismissing them.
So yes, following Christ fulfills the righteousness of the law, but fulfillment does not mean cancellation. It means living them from the heart, exactly as God promised.
The Ten Commandments are not incomplete.
They are holy, spiritual, and perfect.
Christ did not remove them. He wrote them on the heart of his believers.
Those of the elect - those whom God had chosen to salvation from before the foundation of the world - when they had died. they were held in Sheol - not Hell - until Christ's offering was completed. Upon completion, when the New Covenant came into effect, they then went to be in the new spiritual Jerusalem. They became saved the same way as everyone else: God chose them unto it.
[Mat 27:50-53 KJV]
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Jas 2:11-12
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
The law of liberty is the 10 commandments and are not abolished.
The ordinances are abolished.[/QUOTE]
The law of liberty is not the ten commandments; the law of liberty is the law of Christ.
The ten commandments were abolished in/by Christ for those whom He saves. Christ is the Savior, and as Savior, His offering and sacrifice paid for all of our sins, past, present, and future without exception. That is how the NC could make the declaration of the verse below (Heb 8:12). And by that declaration, that any possibility of the NC being the ten commandments becomes completely eliminated and logically absurd: for if all of our sins and iniquities will He remember no more, then there is no purpose for the ten commandments to be in it as there is no judgement possible for those under it. Therefore, the law mentioned in the NC are the laws of Christ, not the laws of Moses. And that is the only way for the New Covenant to be correctly understood.
[Heb 8:12 KJV] 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
The law of liberty protects only those who have become saved by Jesus. Those judged guilty of the law of liberty, were not justified by the righteousness of Christ (becoming saved) - with His righteousness not being imputed to them as being their righteousness (which it is imputed to those He saves) - so their sin of working for their salvation (rather than of being saved by God's grace), means their sins remain in effect. They will therefore be judged by Him and found guilty in violation of that law as will all of the unsaved.
Romans 13:10, sums up the ten commandments, it teils us they are satisfied by the loving of our neighbors. What it doesn't say, however, is that by failing to satisfy it that we will be found guilty by God. We cannot be found guilty because we have been justified by Christ, not of ourselves - judged as though we have the perfection of the righteousness of Christ - Christ is the Savior, man is not.
This is given to us by the exceedingly great mercy and grace of God freely through Jesus Christ to those who in no way deserve it - of ourselves we are just as guilty as those whom He does not save.
It is presumption either way.
Yes, God gave hundreds of commandments in the OC, and all were superseded by the law of the Spirit/love in the NC.
Knowing Jesus is all-important.
Levitical laws are optional unless they contradict saving faith.
It is unfortunate that God did not inspire Jesus and Paul to state explicitly that the Sabbath Law no longer applies,
but I believe that truth is sufficiently clear implicitly per teachings that warn against being a Judaizer, who perverts the Gospel by reverting to salvation via works/obeying OT laws (Gal. 1:9).
The Sabbath Law (4th of the TCs) requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments re-commanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC that was superseded because it fulfilled its purpose when Jesus was crucified (Rom. 3:20).
The OT laws temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus (Matt. 5:17), who replaced them with His Holy Spirit through whom believers manifest God's love for everyone (Rom. 7:6). You should begin with the words of Jesus in John 19:30, "It (the OC) is finished (fulfilled)" and then continue with the rest of God's Word.
NT morality manifests God's loving Holy Spirit indwelling those who cooperate with His desire for fellowship, so their righteousness reflects divine love rather than obeys divine commands (Rom. 5:5). The gospel of Christ is NOT constructing a new collection of laws reprising the OT but merely noting what spiritual fruit of love tastes like (Gal. 5:22-23). This is indicated by Jesus in his sermon on the mount when he essentially equates anger with murder and urges reconciliation/love (Matt. 5:21-24).
The difference is that in the New Covenant there is only one two-fold law: love God/Christ and fellow sinners. Laws pertaining to the latter reiterated the Ten Commandments except for the 4th relating to keeping the Sabbath, presumably indicating that it was deemed to be part of the Levitical laws, even though kept in the Ark of the OC.
"The former regulation [Levitical law] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:11, 18a & 22b).
“A new commandment I give you: Love one another as I have loved you.” (John 13:34a)
"God has poured out His love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit he has given us." (Rom. 5:5)
"He who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law/commandments." (Rom. 13:8b)
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No it does not! the priesthood was for the purpose of offering sacrifices for sin.
Our sacrifice for Sin is our Passover, Jesus Christ and those in whom is the Spirit of God is the Temple.
Everyone keeps coming up with every excuse to continue to not obey.
Which is why Christ is coming back in His wrath for the LAWLESS.
What did He accuse those He said "I never knew you" of ??? lawlessness
The respective law accompanied the respective priesthood. Otherwise, there would be no need for a different priesthood.
[Heb 7:12-18 KJV]
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For [it is] evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17 For he testifieth, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Sorry to pop your legalist balloon, but obedience to the law means even in the smallest details. You don’t get to substitute one thing for another.
The reality is that the old covenant in its entirety has been set aside as Hebrews tells us. We don’t treat it as a buffet from which we pick the parts that are convenient.
People forget the first lesson of obedience to God's words, Adam and Eve.
Jesus did warn people against lawlesness;
Matthew 7:21–23 (KJV)
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Luke 13:26–27 (KJV)
“Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.”
In Jesus’ words, lawlessness (iniquity) . It is about not doing the will of God, even while using His name. Jesus makes clear that knowing Him means walking in obedience, not just words or miracles.