The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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In judging others according to the ordinance of the sabbath, you will be judged according to the ordinance of the sabbath. So, you'd best keep it, and perfectly.

The Sabbath is no different than the commandment to only worship God or not murder our brethern. Its all part of God's written and spoken Testimony Exo 31:18 Deut4:13


I think there's some misunderstanding of what Paul is saying.

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Because God blessed the Sabbath day Exo20:11 and blesses man when we keep it Isa59:2 what God blesses, man can't reverse, Num23:20 because man is not God.

Be it far from me to judge you according to sabbaths. We have One judge, and One mediator between man and God.
 
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Be it far from me to judge you according to sabbaths. We have One judge, and One mediator between man and God.
Yes, and He judges us by what is under His mercy seat Exo25:21 James 2:11-12 and He tells us who He shows mercy to Exo20:6 in His Testimony.

Paul is not speaking of the weekly Sabbath commandment written by the finger of God that started at Creation Exo20:11 that points to our Creator the God we are called to worship Rev14:7

I guess you didn't read my post. There is no point in continuing if the Scriptures are not going to be addressed
 
What day is not blessed if God is in it?
God only blessed and sanctified the seventh day Gen2:3 Exo20:11 and all other days are for works and labors Ezo20:9. This is God speaking and writing. This argument is not with anyone else.
 
Yes, and He judges us by what is under His mercy seat Exo25:21 James 2:11-12 and He tells us who He shows mercy to Exo20:6 in His Testimony.

Paul is not speaking of the weekly Sabbath commandment written by the finger of God that started at Creation Exo20:11 that points to our Creator the God we are called to worship Rev14:7

I guess you didn't read my post. There is no point in continuing if the Scriptures are not going to be addressed
It's for the best as that would require unraveling a lifetime of indoctrination.
 
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are you aware that you are saying there are two different ways to the gift of eternal life?

one way for Jews and another for gentiles
Show us where Christ taught that.

and that also mean, as i would expect you think of your self as a gentile, that you are not required to repent nor to be baptized--- as that would mean you are "subject to the law" and under the penalty of death.

It would also mean the gentiles have no need for the sacrifice of Christ as that Sacrifice is payment for our sins, no law no sins. 1 John 3; 4

One of the many problems I have with the doctrines of the 40,000 flavors of confusion is they are not only illogical but reject 98% of the WORD of God. they follow the confusion caused by Paul, (about 80 pages out of 1500) they do not follow Jesus Christ.
Not at all. I'm saying what God's word says. We are saved by grace, not by the law. Paul did not cause confusion. People who cannot discern the word of God correctly are confused. Worse, they attempt to drag others into their unholy mental mess. You are one of those confused people.

It was not only Paul who rejected your pseudo Christianity. Peter likewise rejected it. I've been over why I say these things. I'm not about to repeat myself.
 
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Yes. And if they break one part of the law they break them all.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.

Mat 5:19 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 
Likewise.
There is no greater Testimony than God's Himself Exo31:18

Isa8:20
The New covenant is called new because it is new. That's tough for you, because God's word says that no one is justified by the works of the law. You are living 2,100 years too late. You would have been fine living under the law in those days.
 
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The New covenant is called new because it is new. That's tough for you, because God's word says that no one is justified by the works of the law. You are living 2,100 years too late. You would have been fine living under the law in those days.
A covenant is an agreement. The agreement is new and God said it was established on better promises, not new laws Heb8:6 because it still has God's laws, now written on a better surface our hearts Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 if we allow Him to, not everyone does Rom8:7-8
 
No, Isaiah is simply teaching that from month to month and from week to week, God’s people will worship the Lord. I noticed how you only highlighted "from one sabbath to another" but conveniently did not highlight "from one new moon to another."
 
A covenant is an agreement. The agreement is new and God said it was established on better promises, not new laws Heb8:6 because it still has God's laws, now written on a better surface our hearts Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 if we allow Him to, not everyone does Rom8:7-8

What do you see as the better promises of the new covenant that differentiates it from the old?

The law given to Moses, written on stone, served for the purpose of a lesson, that a better was needed. How does God write on hearts of flesh? Surely, not with His finger as 3Cor3 reveals, 'by the Spirit of the living God.' And the Spirit of God exudes the Spirit of love which is conspicuously missing from anyone that would even insinuate Rom8:7-8 is applicable to anyone that has learned the lesson of the old covenant.
Acts 7:53

The answer to my initial question is the promise of the Spirit, the promise of a Love realized even while we are yet sinners. At a time when love is most needful, a time in which, is apparent to me, you've never failed to withhold.
The rich young ruler thought he was perfect, but Jesus saw one thing that he lacked...
1 Corinthians 13:1-3
 
No, Isaiah is simply teaching that from month to month and from week to week, God’s people will worship the Lord. I noticed how you only highlighted "from one sabbath to another" but conveniently did not highlight "from one new moon to another."

thats a great way to marginalize the Word of God and a new moon is the first day of a new month.

New Moons (Rosh Chodesh) with special Temple sacrifices (bulls, rams, lambs, grain, wine), blowing of trumpets/shofars, abstaining from work, holding family feasts, and reciting blessings, marking the start of the month as a holy, festive day for worship and renewal, though it sometimes became a hollow ritual later on.

If you will read the latter chapters of Ezekiel 43 on, Ezekiel writes what it will be like when the New Temple is built and Christ is on earth, the Sabbath will be kept.

and If you have not read Zechariah 14 the whole earth will observe the Feast of Tabernacles
16And it shall come to pass, [that] every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that [have] no [rain]; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
 
Simple: The LAW is God's will and it is eternal.

Fortunately, we have a SAVIOR who Died to deliver us from the LAW by becoming the perfect SIN OFFERING for us (Isa 53:10). It's called "The Gospel".
I agree, it is God's will and it is eternal.

But the gospel does not change or lessen the law.

It gives us pardon from the penalty of sin which is the transgression of the law, but it does not make the law void.

Because of the gospel we do not change, transgress or make void the law.

Rom 3:31 Do we then nullify the law through faith? Absolutely not! Instead we uphold the law.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 6:15-16
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

God's grace does not make an excuse to sin. Or an excuse to transgress the law of liberty.

And people need to understand that obedience is not legalism..

If you love Jesus and freely desire to obey Him it is not legalism. Your motive is love not to gain salvation by works.
 
What do you see as the better promises of the new covenant that differentiates it from the old?

The law given to Moses, written on stone, served for the purpose of a lesson, that a better was needed. How does God write on hearts of flesh? Surely, not with His finger as 3Cor3 reveals, 'by the Spirit of the living God.' And the Spirit of God exudes the Spirit of love which is conspicuously missing from anyone that would even insinuate Rom8:7-8 is applicable to anyone that has learned the lesson of the old covenant.
Acts 7:53

The answer to my initial question is the promise of the Spirit, the promise of a Love realized even while we are yet sinners. At a time when love is most needful, a time in which, is apparent to me, you've never failed to withhold.
The rich young ruler thought he was perfect, but Jesus saw one thing that he lacked...
1 Corinthians 13:1-3
To make the law legalistic and add requirements to them is to become like the pharisees in Jesus's day...

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

We can do the same today. But Jesus was not against the keeping of the laws.

Jesus promoted the keeping of the laws in many places.
Mat 19:17-18
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
And 1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The new covenant does NOT change or remove the Ten commandments, it states that Jesus will write them on our heart.

We can not obey them in our power but by allowing the Holy Spirit to write them on the your heart they are possible to obey.
By the power of the Spirit.

Rom 8:3-4
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
To make the law legalistic and add requirements to them is to become like the pharisees in Jesus's day...

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

We can do the same today. But Jesus was not against the keeping of the laws.

Jesus promoted the keeping of the laws in many places.
Mat 19:17-18
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
And 1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The new covenant does NOT change or remove the Ten commandments, it states that Jesus will write them on our heart.

We can not obey them in our power but by allowing the Holy Spirit to write them on the your heart they are possible to obey.
By the power of the Spirit.

Rom 8:3-4
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Other than Jews, who did Jesus tell to keep the law?