The misleading use of 'Gentile'. All nations on earth are Goyim.

[Dino246]

Nowhere does Scripture ever speak of a Jewish covenant people on earth, much less entering the kingdom of Christ. It's the heretic construct of a made up Goyim/Gentile theology.

There has never been a 'Jewish covenant people'. At least, not with the God of Israel, because He has never had a covenant people by natural birth, but only through faith. The OT covenant was never a Hebrew, Israeli, nor Jewish covenant, but only a covenant of faith in circumcision and law.

God's covenant has never been by natural birth. And so no all naturally born of Israel, are the Israel of God by faith. And Paul is more bold, in declaring not all born Jews are not Jews with covenant of God by circumcision:

The gross error of Goyim/Gentile theology, is claiming the true God ever has a covenant with a people of 'special' natural birth: Theological eugenics. So that there is a 'Jewish covenant people' vs a 'Gentile covenant people'...

Perhaps you should read the old testament, specifically Exodus.

Exodus 19:3-6 Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: 4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

Exodus 24:6-8 Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he splashed against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.”

8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

I suggest you rethink your position in light of these passages.

 

[ATG]

I have no idea what this means, but if you are referring to the gifts and calling of God then that is referring to the caliing of the elect in Israel to believe in Christ and receive the gifts of forgivenes of sins and the holy spirit.

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:38-39​

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Spot on. Romans 11 is all about natural Israeli Jews still having access to the election of God by faith in Christ. They are not forever cast out and cursed by birth, but are still beloved by God the same as all the world, which God so loves by sending His only begotten Son.

The calling of God is to all men that would repent and be saved, which still includes God's beloved Jews, Greeks, Syrians, Africans...That calling of Christ by faith includes the election, covenant, and kingdom promises of God in Christ.

Eph 4:2
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

[ATG]

I have no idea what this means, but if you are referring to the gifts and calling of God then that is referring to the caliing of the elect in Israel to believe in Christ and receive the gifts of forgivenes of sins and the holy spirit.

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:38-39​

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For the election yes, but not necessarily for all the promises, with one special promise to the natural seed of Abraham alone: Land and service during Christ's Millennium. That promise has not yet been fulfilled, and so must be fulfilled after His return.

The whole controversy and error over 'replacement' theology and God's covenant people, is by mistaking a land promise and covenant promise are the same. Land and covenant are not the same, for one is natural by birth, and the other is spiritual by faith:

Rom 9:6
For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Gal 4:28
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise….born after the Spirit.

The land promise has always been to the natural seed, and the covenant promise has always been to any seed by faith.

Abraham was a Syrian by birth, and his household bond servants from the land, were all recieved into covenant with God by faith of circumcision.

Deu 26:3
And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of the LORD thy God. And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:

Gen 25:20
And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.

Gen 28:5
And Isaac sent away Jacob: and he went to Padanaram unto Laban, son of Bethuel the Syrian, the brother of Rebekah, Jacob's and Esau's mother.

Anyone claiming natural seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, are claiming Syrian heritage. And anyone claiming that is 'heretical', are preaching a mystical natural eugenics of 'Jewish' seed, that is as heretical as Hellenic blood vs the Barbarian, or Aryan blood vs the Jew...

 

[ATG]

It's not even a bad translation; if anything it is a bad understanding of the context.... those hebrew/latin/english words are all derived into "nations" people are just disagreeing with you on whether Israel is included in that context.

You must be the first to suggest that the Israeli Jewish people are not a nation among nations on earth.

The disagreement is that the non-Goyim/Gentile Jews, are not a nation among nations, but are a nation above all nations on earth, so that they are not even one of the Goyim/Gentiles.

This separation is not by natural birth alone, but is doctrinally a natural separation of birth and covenant.

Non-Jew Goyim/Gentile is not a grammatical word alone, but a natural theology for covenant by natural birth: Natural eugenics.
Where the Jewish nation is not only not of the Goyim/Gentile nations, but neither is their seed and blood of the same natural seed and blood of all Goyim/Gentiles.

Act 17:24
God that made the world and all things therein, And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Jhn 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Rom 9:6
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Gal 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Not really... everybody understands why they rejected him. He didn't meet a lot of their wrong expectations, and reaching out to the gentiles was the least of the things they would've thought he did wrong. The Pharisees barely mention that in the bible, if they do at all.

If you don't know the anti-Goyim theology of the leading Jews of the day, then you don't know why they had Jesus crucified.

Jhn 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jhn 6:66
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Neither do you understand the difference between a natural covenant gospel after the flesh by birth, vs the covenant gospel of faith after the Spirit.

The anti-Goyim Jews of the day still demand a Jews-only Messiah, where the Goyim can be conquered and ruled as second-class people, without all the covenant rights and promises made to the fathers. The same as the non-Arab Muwali in Islam.

 

[ATG]

Well, you were getting into prophecy/eschatology there, talking about Christ's second coming; and I can't really tell what eschatological framework you were trying to reject there.

That Jesus returns to deal with Jews only, and not the 'Gentiles'. Which is the Goyim/Gentile doctrine, that the beloved Jews are naturally called to God and repentance, while the cursed Gentiles are naturally born to damnation.

Which is the false doctrine of natural election and covenant by birth, where one seed and people on earth, the Israeli Jews, are naturally born for God, while all the rest of the seed and people on earth, the 'Gentiles', are naturally born against God.

This naturalizing of the non-Jew Goyim/Gentile doctrine into the Bible, comes from the leading Jews redefining Goyim as being non-Jews by birth and election.

The risen Lord Jesus Christ is coming to receive all His people and one holy nation to Himself, the elect by faith, and to pour out wrath upon all nations without God by unbelief, whether Greek, Syrian, Ethiopian, Jew, Brazilians, etc...

There will be those believers among all these nations resurrected to meet Him in the air. And likewise without respect of persons, there will be those among all these nations appointed to wrath by unbelief.

Rom 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Act 15:8
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Conclusion: Though men may care about Gentiles vs Jews pertaining to the calling and election of God, the risen God of Israel and Lamb Jesus Christ cares not one whit whether a person is born of whatever race or nationality, pertaining to His calling and election, that is only by faith in His resurrection, and never has anything to do with natural seed, flesh, and blood of all men.

Jhn 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 

[ATG]

While this verse does tell us that the Holy Spirit will guide us into truth, it does not actually support your assertion because it says nothing about "right interpretation".

2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

All Scripture must be taken together for true interpretation.

You're violating 2 Peter 1:20 first rule of ministry, by teaching it by personal interpretation only, without context of Scripture.

 

[Dino246]

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Relevance?

All Scripture must be taken together for true interpretation.

Where is that in Scripture?

You're violating 2 Peter 1:20 first rule of ministry, by teaching it by personal interpretation only, without context of Scripture.

Obviously, you don't understand 2 Peter 1:20, despite my having explained it clearly to you in post 94.

 

[ATG]

The text says nothing at all about preaching... and preaching is not prophesying.

1Sa 9:9
(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)

Prophets were of old called Seers.

2Ch 9:29
Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Prophecy is the seers work to record acts and visions pertaining to God.

2Ki 17:13
Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.

The prophets were the seers teaching the testimonies, warnings, and commandments of God.

Pro 30:1
he words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal; Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man. I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.

Prophecy is proverbs of wisdom of God.

1Co 14:3
He that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

Prophecy is exhortation in the things of God to edify and comfort the faithful.

1Pe 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth.

Prophetic oracles of God are of all things spoken for God, that must be ministered by the Spirit of truth.

Act 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Rev 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

The spirit and heart of prophecy is testifying witness of Jesus Christ, preaching the gospel.

 

[ATG]

When preaching, one should only preach what is directly from Scripture or in accord with Scripture,

I.e. Scripture interprets Scripture in context of all Scripture.

Your personal interpretation of 2 Peter 1:20 without other Scripture, violates 2 Peter's first rule of ministry: Only teach Scripture in accord with all Scripture.

Scripture informs correct interpretation of Scripture,

I.e. Scripture interprets Scripture.

but it does not interpret Scripture except in a very few limited cases, such as Jesus explaining certain parables to His disciples.

I.e. Scripture only interprets Scripture in 'limited' cases, where you personally say so. Just not with 2 Peter 1:20.

One necessarily changes words to translate a message into another language. Otherwise, there would be only one language.

Words are not changed when grammatically translated for the same word in another language.

Words are only changed when doctrinally translated with different words of another language.

Changing the words doctrinally under the guise of translation is changing the doctrine of the Book. Such as 'Gentile' rather than nations of Goyim/Ethnoi.

Words have no intrinsic meaning; they have meaning by their common usage.

Words of God are not changed, in order to conform to man's culture.

2 Cor {4:5}
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.

Man's culture must change to conform to God's eternal word.

Rom 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

You couldn't have used a worse example. Ask anyone under 30 without a Church background what "fleeing fornication" means, and you will probably get a blank stare in response.

So says someone that preaches their own personal things according to their own personal ways, rather than the plain words of God.

2Co 3:12
Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

Archaic language is as meaningless as foreign language.

I.e. Archaic, as in not conformed to present culture.

"Do not engage in sexual contact outside of marriage" is MUCH clearer than "flee fornication", and definitely is not "false doctrine".

And yet God says flee fornication, which is plain speech in two words. Your personal interpretation of fornication is much less clear.

Is kissing fornication? Holding hands? Hugging? Touching?

No wonder you're offended at Scripture interpreting Scripture, so that you must defend your personal rules with Scripture. 2 Peter 1:20 is the first rule of ministry to stop people preaching their own personal rules for doctrine of God:

Tit 1:14
Not giving heed to commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

You're a Pentecost of some sort, right?

I don't think you could have missed the point more thoroughly.

God has nailed it thoroughly by exposing your pharisaical Pentecostalism. As a wanna-be lord over God's heritage, you would falsely accuse every unmarried Christian couple that kisses, of fornication...

 

[ATG]

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Relevance?

By the explanation from Scriptures given.

All Scripture must be taken together for true interpretation.

Where is that in Scripture?

From the Scriptures given for it.

You're violating 2 Peter 1:20 first rule of ministry, by teaching it by personal interpretation only, without context of Scripture.

Obviously, you don't understand 2 Peter 1:20, despite my having explained it clearly to you in post 94.

Obviously, you don't want to understand 2 Peter 1:20, despite my having explained it clearly, that your post 94 is an example of violating 2 Peter 1:20.

You can keep your personal interpretations of Scripture for yourself, and I'll keep my Scriptural interpretations of Scripture for me.

Heb 10:29
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

 

[ATG]

God Himself does explain every word of His to us, by all His words to us:

Um, no, He most certainly does not.

Pretty much says it all right there. God does not have right to interpret His own words. He's not qualified like you.

Which is the exact warning 2 Peter 1:20 has against false prophets and teachers, who interpret God's words by their own personal understanding alone, without allowing all God's words to prove it.

Act 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

 

[Dino246]

Pretty much says it all right there. God does not have right to interpret His own words. He's not qualified like you.

Stupid statements like that are only going to earn you my disrespect.

The spirit and heart of prophecy is testifying witness of Jesus Christ, preaching the gospel.

While there is "preaching" in the role of the prophet historically, preaching today is not prophesying. If it were, then prophesying would be a skill that could be learned by any atheist instead of a gift given exclusively to believers by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Dino246]

Your personal interpretation of 2 Peter 1:20 without other Scripture, violates 2 Peter's first rule of ministry: Only teach Scripture in accord with all Scripture.

There is no such "rule of ministry" in 2 Peter.

I.e. Scripture only interprets Scripture in 'limited' cases, where you personally say so. Just not with 2 Peter 1:20.

Apparently your reading comprehension is seriously impaired.

Words are not changed when grammatically translated for the same word in another language.

Words are not "grammatically translated" at all. Those words simply don't go together in that context. Grammatical structure might be preserved through translation... or not.

Words are only changed when doctrinally translated with different words of another language.

There's no such concept as "doctrinally translated" either.

Words of God are not changed, in order to conform to man's culture.

I didn't say that they were. Again your reading comprehension is lacking.

So says someone that preaches their own personal things according to their own personal ways, rather than the plain words of God.

Irrelevant personal attack.

And yet God says flee fornication, which is plain speech in two words. Your personal interpretation of fornication is much less clear.

Is kissing fornication? Holding hands? Hugging? Touching?

Your ignorance is shocking. You need to get out more.

No wonder you're offended at Scripture interpreting Scripture, so that you must defend your personal rules with Scripture.

Another stupid comment.

2 Peter 1:20 is the first rule of ministry to stop people preaching their own personal rules for doctrine of God:

Wrong. Ignorant. Stubborn. Closed-minded.

You're a Pentecost of some sort, right?

Pentecost is a celebration from the old covenant. No, I'm not a Pentecost of some sort.

God has nailed it thoroughly by exposing your pharisaical Pentecostalism. As a wanna-be lord over God's heritage, you would falsely accuse every unmarried Christian couple that kisses, of fornication...

More utter stupidity.

I don't know why I bother attempting to have a discussion with you. Clearly you're incapable.

 

[Dino246]

From the Scriptures given for it.

You didn't give any.

Obviously, you don't want to understand 2 Peter 1:20, despite my having explained it clearly, that your post 94 is an example of violating 2 Peter 1:20.

More stubbornness.

You can keep your personal interpretations of Scripture for yourself, and I'll keep my Scriptural interpretations of Scripture for me.

I see you're a hypocrite as well.

 

[ATG]

Perhaps you should read the old testament, specifically Exodus.

Exodus 19:3-6 Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: 4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

Exodus 24:6-8 Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he splashed against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.”

8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

Don't read anything here about an Israeli/Jewish covenant people of God.

I suggest you rethink your position in light of these passages.

You need to read and respond to the argument.

People who speak of 'the Jews' covenant with God', 'the covenant of the Jews with God', are speaking of a false racial/ethnic covenant of natural birth, that God never has with any natural born people on earth.

There is no such thing in Scripture as an Israeli Jewish, Greek, Scythian, Russian, Ethiopian covenant people of God by birth.

 

[ATG]

Exodus 24:6-8 Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he splashed against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.”

8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

And so, we see once for all, that they were not covenant people by birth, but by faith and obedience toward the law. And the law now being written down, any person of any nation, could have and keep the same covenant with God, by that same faith of Abraham toward God, even as today.

Gal 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

However, the argument is not against the usefulness of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendants for God making a covenant with men on earth.

Rom 3:1
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

Rom 3:3
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

There was a 'natural' advantage of being born into Abraham's household and service, and later born among the people who had the oracles of God. I.e. Unlike other nations, they had the Book of the Law by which any person on earth could read, believe, and partake of God's covenant, whether Israreli born or born stranger.

The advantage is not because of their racial/ethnic breeding. Abraham was Syrian born.

And his household servants, that also made covenant with God by circumcision, were Egyptians and Canaanites. They did not enter into covenant, nor were useful to God, by natural birth.

Unlike false tradition of men, Scripture never speaks of God's covenant being, 'The Abrahamic covenant', or 'The covenant of the Jews'.

They were covenant people of God by having the same faith of Abraham toward God first in circumcision, and also the law. None of them were covenant people of God, because they were Israeli/Jews. They had an advantage over other nations in being born Israeli/Jews, but they only had covenant by faith toward God.

And today, the new covenant of Christ is greater, not because it's 'no more' a matter of birth, which it never was, but because the resurrection of Jesus Christ and His gospel preached by the Holy Ghost, is far greater throughout the world, than the proselytization of old covenant circumcision and law of Moses.

Now, anyone born into a household of faith in Christ, has a natural advantage over unbelievers, whether Jew, Greek, Barbarian, Egyptian...

But, as with the old, so with the new covenant of God in Christ Jesus, being born into a house with the oracles of God, does not make a newborn covenant person of God by natural birth.

There was a natural advantage in being born of a Jew, and is a natural advantage of being born of a Christian, but not because of natural breeding.

Believers readily agree that becoming a covenant Christian with Christ, has nothing to do with natural birth. But many believers wrongly believe, that becoming a covenant child of Abraham and Israel had to do with being born of natural seed. It didn't:

Gal 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

 

[ATG]

While there is "preaching" in the role of the prophet historically, preaching today is not prophesying. If it were, then prophesying would be a skill that could be learned by any atheist instead of a gift given exclusively to believers by the Holy Spirit.

So, you've never heard of the skill of false prophets and teachers.

2Pe 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Once again, prophecying and teaching are the same, whether true or false.

Your skill in reading and teaching Scripture, is limited by your personal ideology not given by the Holy Spirit.

I've given the Scriptures proving prophesying in Scripture includes preaching, exhortation, and ministry of the word.

Your refusal to have your personal interpretation of one Scripture, corrected by those Scriptures given, is only leading to more false interpretations of the Scriptures.

 

[ATG]

There's no such concept as "doctrinally translated" either.

Jhn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God.

One is translated grammatically correct. The other is translated doctrinally incorrect. Can you guess which?

I didn't say that they were. Again your reading comprehension is lacking. Irrelevant personal attack. Your ignorance is shocking. You need to get out more. Another stupid comment. Wrong. Ignorant. Stubborn. Closed-minded. More utter stupidity.

I don't know why I bother attempting to have a discussion with you. Clearly you're incapable.

It can't be because I'm stupid ignorant wrong incomprehensible and irrelevant etc...

It must be because I'm stubbornly correcting you with Scripture, and you not only refuse it, but also can't just leave it alone.

Eze 3:9
As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.

Since you're not a Pentecost, are you a believer in salvation and justification by Faith Alone, apart from works?

 

[Dino246]

You need to read and respond to the argument.

As my life is replete without my reading and responding to your argument, I obviously don't need to do so.