There is only elect who are saved.
Romans 8:22
Who shall accuse against the elect of God? God that justifieth.
Is Anything Not Predestinated by God?
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Romans 8:22
Who shall accuse against the elect of God? God that justifieth.
One might argue that, with at last as strong a biblical basis, that it is those who have been saved who are the “elect”.
hi solitude, I've been doing a bit of research, and it's seems there is a belief that the elect get spoken to by God before being saved and the none elect dot get spoke to at all before being saved,
Now according to my research the none elect not being spoken to at all, is a totally different idea unrelated to limited atonement , all tho it's been assigned to the doctrine of limited atonement for some strange reason, which seem to pointing towards people's wrong ideas of limited atonement, or a conspiracy theory that's has grown out of control
In my research it seems that limited atonement means God does indeed speak to both the elect and none elect whilst there in there unsaved condition, I believe a proper study of this apparent myth would clear things up.
I wonder do you have any views on this.
God had foreknowledge of everyone and He not only predestined everyone for salvation, Jesus also tasted death for each and ever person (Hebrews 2:9 )
The calvinist lie by adding to God's Word something the Lord does not say when they claim He only provided salvation for those that receive it and get saved. But they lied having been deceived by the devil in to forsaking the whole counsel of God is favor of following the teachings of a murderer - John Calvin who is their idol that they worship
People have to get help from the devil to believe God created some people just so they could be rejected
And of course the devil is happy to help them out by deceiving therm in to not accepting all of what the Lord says in His Word.
Nobody is claiming universalism is true. It's not.
None the less, the Lord has in fact provided salvation for ALL people He created.
But you'll notice the ones listening to the devil will accuse the Lord of not loving all people and not providing salvation for all people as they attack His character which they do by the leading of the demons that are leading them
No, He does not
This does not mean He has not provided a way for therm to be saved.
Those that repent of their sins and come to the Lord to receive salvation and endure abiding In Christ until the end of their lives.
Those that get born again and backslide having turned away from God disqualify themselves because THEY are the ones who turned away from Him.
2 Timothy 2:12
If we deny Him, He also will deny us
2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
They were elect but they disqualify themselves by refusing to come to the Lord for salvation.
All people are predestined to be conformed to the image of God's Son (Romans 8:29,30) but sadly most refuse to repent of their sin and walk with the Lord.
That's what the calvinists believe
They are following doctrines of demons so the smart one ignore the calvinists for obvious reasons.
They were elect but they disqualify themselves by refusing to come to the Lord for salvation.
All people are predestined to be conformed to the image of God's Son (Romans 8:29,30) but sadly most refuse to repent of their sin and walk with the Lord.
I can keep posting this until you get it if need be.
It appears to me that you are attempting to box me into a corner. I'm not interested in games.
Romans and Matthew 7:23 proves that God only predestinated the elct to salvation.
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
Don’t “should” on me. I’m not interested in your “should”.
If you can’t hold up your end of a respectful discussion, you can go sit in the corner and exemplify your handle.
Do you think you're a child of God?
You hold on to unrepented false belief of calvinist teaching.
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
Oh the irony!
So since one cannot be certain that they are saved until they achieve heaven, no one can be certain they are elect, is that what you claim (reference Jesus saying "begone, I never knew you")
