Correct accusation that you do not like and feel you must deny with a blanket statement... Perhaps?
You seem rather glib when you can not refute being refuted.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Correct accusation that you do not like and feel you must deny with a blanket statement... Perhaps?
You seem rather glib when you can not refute being refuted.
This little Monkey says God can make you believe something,
Matthew 5:44. God making a person heart treat people with respect
Philippians 4:13 God making a person strong
Ephesians 2:10 God making a person do Good works
Isaiah 41:10 God making you have hope
btw this is done Because God finds it irresistible
The river Jordon holds very special meaning for the Israelites journey to the promised land, and for spiritual renewal, only for you it's a place to create dogmaThe account of Joshua and the children of Israel crossing the Jordan, including the crucial requirements to undertake circumcision and the Passover before the conquest of the land, all of this utterly annihilates Calvinism. And not one Calvinist knows why right? I mean totally clueless right? I mean no answer right?
That's right, and what a pity.....
But only if man's efficacious freewill allows grace to do its work. You forgot that part! Don't forget: The sons of men don't need any divine rescuing. Man's will is whole. Man is self-reliant, self-sufficient. Man's will primarily and ultimately controls man's eternal destiny.
That's precisely what FWT (Freewill Theology) does. It insults the Spirit of Grace. So, how do you understand Jn 3:17. Should the term "world" be understood in the distributive sense in the same way you FWeres understand v. 16? If not, why not?
Don't forget Blue, Reformed folks understand the atonement to be efficacious! Christ died for all those whom the Father has given to Him in eternity. We don't limit the atonement qualitatively the way you FWers do.
Well, you must admit it is kinda nice when someone admits they are confused...Well you have all the excuses by the looks of it mate
so seeing as you insulted me for being reformed, you must be saying efficacious in a negative way then,
Can't see How tho since you really have no idea how reformed churches believe ,
I want honesty and not duplicity. When we first got on this track you said NOTHING about what imprisons a soul. You also said NOTHING about any sinner being freed FROM sin and death! You spoke only about being free TO. You FWers virtually ignore the fact that Freedom runs on two tracks -- not just one!
But now with this latest revelation from you, does Sin and Death render man spiritually powerless and in dire need of divine rescuing?
P.S. Does God set free all mankind in the distributive sense to offer all the opportunity to be saved?
The will is "freed" by grace.
What Grace does is that it forces your flesh take a back seat, while allowing the soul to make right choices.
To keep us in the diver's seat?
We must use 1 John 1:9 to name our sins, to stay filled with the Spirit.
But in your universe, there's zero efficacy in the Spirit's work. Jesus healed many blind people. Was His power always efficacious? Did his power ever FAIL? Yet, when it comes to spiritual blindness that causes intrinsic darkness in a man's soul (Eph 5:8), no such power is needed because God would be an evil monster to rescue the helpless, according to you FWers. Man is not powerless or helpless whatsoever. He can rely on his trustworthy, efficacious "freewill" to make the righteous choice -- except of course when in the vast majority of time sinners fail to do that, as well.
You don't like the truth I post about FWT? Are you going to whine like a little girly man and pretend that you don't believe in the efficacy of man's sacred "freewill"?
BINGO! So...it appears that ungodly love in sinners' hearts must be replaced with Agape Love.
I am not even sure how and what you think when you use those terms.
You have your own pet concepts.
You are correct, the reformed Christian of this day and age believe that our freedom from bondage comes to us by the grace of God.The account of Joshua and the children of Israel crossing the Jordan, including the crucial requirements to undertake circumcision and the Passover before the conquest of the land, all of this utterly annihilates Calvinism. And not one Calvinist knows why right? I mean totally clueless right? I mean no answer right?
That's right, and what a pity.....
So, if you still feel the need to go into your back yard and present a burnt offering, then please do not move next door to me!
