Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Blue155 said:
Jesus failed at His mission?
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Yes if He didn't seek and save the lost He was sent here to seek and to save per Luke 19:10

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Now may I ask you, was He successful in this endeavor? I say yes what say you?
 
JimiSurvivor said:
In biblical times, marriage was a solemn commitment involving a binding betrothal before the actual wedding celebration, an image that the Scriptures use to illustrate the believer’s present position and future hope. You are conflating our present relationship with Him with the glorious future consummation.

Becoming the Bride is something will not be consummated until we meet the Bridegroom face to face and partake of the "marriage supper of the Lamb" Until then, we must keep are lamps lit and trimmed as we wait faithfully for Him to appear. An essential part pf being faithful is continuing to believe in Him and abide in His teaching.
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Just to let you know, from what I understand, the majority of the Reformed around here are amillennialists.

No joyful wedding feast for anybody. Sad huh?
 
sawdust said:
And God has not sent His light into the world?

Is the Spirit here in the world at work or not? Why do you feel it necessary to constantly ignore grace at work in this world? Do you hate mankind so much you must ensure he never gets up?
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Just listen to the doomer. Sad huh?
 
sawdust said:
And God has not sent His light into the world?

Is the Spirit here in the world at work or not? Why do you feel it necessary to constantly ignore grace at work in this world? Do you hate mankind so much you must ensure he never gets up?
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Yes but men love darkness rather than light and the darkness cannot comprehend the light.
 
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brightfame52 said:
Yes if He didn't seek and save the lost He was sent here to seek and to save per Luke 19:10

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Now may I ask you, was He successful in this endeavor? I say yes what say you?
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To be certain, you are saying Jesus is a failure?
 
sawdust said:
And God has not sent His light into the world?

Is the Spirit here in the world at work or not? Why do you feel it necessary to constantly ignore grace at work in this world? Do you hate mankind so much you must ensure he never gets up?
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Its a choice of either hate himself, or hate the world.

The hate has to go somewhere.
 
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@cv5, Calvinists are good at confusing people, then blame it on either total inability, or God’s sovereignty.
 
sawdust said:
No we don't. We have grace doing what the flesh prevents us from doing.

Would be nice if you could at least get that part right about what we say.
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Ah, so grace does it and not you??? LOL Make up your mind.

Nah, you just like to argue non-existent points.
 
Genez said:
I am here to study the phenomenon.
Always heard about what they believe....

In my case?
I am "probing" .. not, arguing.
Testing to see how they will respond when shown what they have been failing to see.
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This is called making people see the truth, but in reality your truth needs correction 🙂.

Cuz by all a accounts of God, that when he makes you a new heart, it's definitely by his irresistible grace he has for people treating him as there father.

He just loves people who have heart for his ways, it most definitely his irresistible grace and not your obnoxious grace 🙂
 
Magenta said:
Ah, so grace does it and not you??? LOL Make up your mind.

Nah, you just like to argue non-existent points.
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Once again we see you haven't bothered reading. We have all said all along grace begins everything. The will can only be freed by grace.

You are the argumentative one because you fail to listen to what is said in the first place and lack understanding of spiritual mechanics.
 
Jordon said:
This is called making people see the truth, but in reality your truth needs correction 🙂.

Cuz by all a accounts of God, that when he makes you a new heart, it's definitely by his irresistible grace he has for people treating him as there father.

He just loves people who have heart for his ways, it most definitely his irresistible grace and not your obnoxious grace 🙂
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I wonder if we can make you shutup? ;)
 
Jordon said:
This is what God says



Matthew 28:19-20

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19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations
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sawdust said:
So you think Jesus wants us to force people to follow Christ? Is that what they did to you? You poor thing. :cry:
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where as the word forceful been added here

Matthew 28:19-20

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19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations

This little monkey says your making up stories ,

And you making something out of nothing, which sounds more forceful to me 🙂
 
Blue155 said:
Tons of people are like that. That’s why it’s typically fruitless talking to people who aren’t willing to consider the evidence. When deciding who to evangelize with, it’s best to find someone who isn’t going to walk into the jury box already refusing to believe unless every question is answered, every rebuttal addressed, and every emotional pain soothed. Those people are not fit to sit in jury for the evidence. Not because they’re unintelligent, but because they’re biased and partial. Truth requires a willing heart, not just a sharp mind.
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True, Blue!
 
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