Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Cameron143 said:
The gospel is the power of God unto salvation. It doesn't say it is the power of God for being born again. All that is required to be born again is the Spirit. He makes us spiritually alive.
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ROFL You think being born requires no power? I gave birth to three kids, took all my energy, especially the first. In fact I was so exhausted I couldn't even hold her in my arms. I had to call the nurse over before I dropped her.

My argument has not been what you are trying to make it now. Stop moving the goal posts.

Being born requires power on behalf of the one birthing which, in the case of regeneration, is the Spirit. You received that power and you said only believers receive God's power. So either you believed before regeneration or you did not and received power as an unbeliever. We are talking about power to be born, not the power of the Gospel unto salvation.
 
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lrs68 said:
Everything is governed by breakers in 10, 15, 25, and 30. This boosts the amps that are reduced and connected through 110 and 220 lines unless you are running 3 phase. So it's not like you're thinking but it does the trick.
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lol those are circuits breakers 5 amp 10 Amp upto 30 etc.

They have very little to do with how much voltage you should be running appliances on, the appliances themselves have all the appropriate reducers in them. High powered devices, not so much, so you would normally run them on the 30 Amp circuit outlet , unless the device your using requires more than 30 Amps, in which case you would probably need a 60 Amp outlet if .your circuit breaker and main fuse breaker allows for it and wiring

Your actually speaking to a sparky here 🤩
 
Cameron143 said:
Half of those individuals don't even agree with you on freewill and depravity.

When you say reformed individuals worship little g God, aren't you suggesting they aren't saved?
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We all agree that regeneration cannot and does not precede faith, because this doctrine is extreme and outside of traditional evangelical teachings.

That a person is wrong on the character of God can be due to indoctrination.
 
sawdust said:
ROFL You think being born requires no power? I gave birth to three kids, took all my energy, especially the first. In fact I was so exhausted I couldn't even hold her in my arms. I had to call the nurse over before I dropped her.

My argument has not been what you are trying to make it now. Stop moving the goal posts.

Being born requires power on behalf of the one birthing which, in the case of regeneration, is the Spirit. You received that power and you said only believers receive God's power. So either you believed before regeneration or you did not and received power as an unbeliever. We are talking about power to be born, not the power of the Gospel unto salvation.
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You are so dishonest. I didn't say it didn't take power to be made alive. I said the power of the gospel wasn't necessary.

Grace and peace.
 
HeIsHere said:
We all agree that regeneration cannot and does not precede faith, because this doctrine is extreme and outside of traditional evangelical teachings.

That a person is wrong on the character of God can be due to indoctrination.
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It is you who make light of God's sovereignty and justice. You believe the attribute of God that is superior to all others is love, even though it has been shown to you that God is righteous in all His ways. There is no mention of God being loving in all His ways.
Ephesians 2 begins with God quickening individuals; not saving them. Only after they are quickened does God speak of salvation. As if to punctuate his point, Paul tells us in verse 5 that we were quickened together with Christ while being dead still. And to puctuate it further, in the same verse, he says we are saved by grace.

Salvation is by God from beginning to end. That's what it means to be saved by grace.
 
Cameron143 said:
Right. That's the new covenant promise. The Spirit is given to us and His word is written upon our hearts.
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More canned and and clueless Reformed rhetoric.

The Spirit is given to us..........when? Why? According to what biblical pattern?
Irrespective of your profound ignorance on the matter, the teaching of the arrabon destroys the Reformed/Calvinism position.

While the Calvinists are wasting their breath on vain, nauseatingly repetitive, pretentious, idiotic useless philosophy and bizarre mental contortions, the legit, insightful, Scripturally grounded Bible student discoverers and apprehends the true treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Such as that which I have just provided.
 
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Jordon said:
lol those are circuits breakers 5 amp 10 Amp upto 30 etc.

They have very little to do with how much voltage you should be running appliances on, the appliances themselves have all the appropriate reducers in them. High powered devices, not so much, so you would normally run them on the 30 Amp circuit outlet , unless the device your using requires more than 30 Amps, in which case you would probably need a 60 Amp outlet if .your circuit breaker and main fuse breaker allows for it and wiring

Your actually speaking to a sparky here 🤩
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No those are the breakers to wherever you run outlets.
 
lrs68 said:
No those are the breakers to wherever you run outlets.
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lol that's what I said You don't comprehend very well, you said they provide a boost lol, they don't, each breaker has the same voltage going in, and each fuse breaker determines how hot the wire can go when appliance are drawing current, which is also a safety measure to prevent wires overheating in your house, and melting and catching fire, typically if you run a appliance that draws high wattage and amps typically higher than the limit of the fuse, the fuse will overheat and trip, because of the higher current being pulled through the fuse.

Basically however much current you draw from mains the internal wiring and fuses always heat up to a certain temperature, so the fuses prevent your wires from overheating, in case you plug a higher powered device on a 13 amp circuit breaker outlet with lower spec internal wiring, instead of a 30 Amp circuit.
 
HeIsHere said:
Amazing how they are all trained and operate in sync, same ole cherry picked proof texts out of context.

Not just here, but other discussion boards, it is the exact same responses.

Scary.
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The reason is.....

Very few pastors actually do qualify to teach what is needed to know.
Instead of, what they want to be told to know.


2 Timothy 4:3 warns that a time will come when people will not tolerate sound teaching and will seek out teachers who tell them what they want to hear, driven by their own desires.

Paul knew what was coming...
 
Cameron143 said:
Just because the original audience is Israel doesn't preclude the truth from being universal.
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It is universal for wherever you find a society basking in degeneracy.
The woke and transgender mob falls into that mindset.
 
Genez said:
It does not say... Always was hidden to them that are lost.
They were not born blind. It says that Satan has blinded them.
It was a process of conditioning...
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I believe there is a hedge of protection untill people are handed over to disobedience 🙂
 
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