Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[HeIsHere]

as did you with this post ... ad hominem fallacy is not a good look for you. I prefer the pic attached to your moniker.

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I really do not think she cares.
I mean she called someone on this thread a "pervert" and stated he had a "creepy smile."

Best to not think a person is like you, reasonable, thoughtful informed, biblically literate.. they are not.
This is not a lack of maturity, spiritual or emotional, these are immutable characteristics with a very slim chance of change.
Negative attention is just fuel to the fire, I know it seems counterintuitive and it is hard to see it, I get that, but it is true.

 

[Jordon]

I really do not think she cares.
I mean she called someone on this thread a "pervert" and stated he had a "creepy smile."

Best to not think a person is like you, reasonable, thoughtful informed, biblically literate.. they are not.
This is not a lack of maturity, spiritual or emotional, these are immutable characteristics with a very slim chance of change.
Negative attention is just fuel to the fire, I know it seems counterintuitive and it is hard to see it, I get that, but it is true.

eer I dont think you care, as you and the person your talking about have insulted magenta more times than I can remember, you obviously just put yourself first as always here, you have been asked so many, times nicely to stop miss representing magentas faith, and you haven't listened.

What do you expect here lady, just for you to hold your self higher than magenta miss represent her on a daily bases and get nothing in return ?

I can't believe your Ignorance to be honest

 

[HeIsHere]

eer I dont think you care, as you and the person your talking about have insulted magenta more times than I can remember, you obviously just put yourself first as always here, you have been asked so many, times nicely to stop miss representing magentas faith, and you haven't listened.

What do you expect here lady, just for you to hold your self higher than magenta miss represent her on a daily bases and get nothing in return ?

I can't believe your Ignorance to be honest

I highly recommend the movie Gaslight.

 

[cv5]

this is also telling you he can make priests out of the Calvies to .

Making unqualified unlearned Calvies the teachers of the people is tantamount to the evil that Jeroboam did you say? Agree.

 

[cv5]

I really do not think she cares.
I mean she called someone on this thread a "pervert" and stated he had a "creepy smile."

Best to not think a person is like you, reasonable, thoughtful informed, biblically literate.. they are not.
This is not a lack of maturity, spiritual or emotional, these are immutable characteristics with a very slim chance of change.
Negative attention is just fuel to the fire, I know it seems counterintuitive and it is hard to see it, I get that, but it is true.

Truly, that woman is equipped with a bottomless well of 100 proof industrial grade vitriol....

 

[Jordon]

I highly recommend the movie Gaslight.

Truly, that woman is equipped with a bottomless well of 100 proof industrial grade vitriol....

Making unqualified unlearned Calvies the teachers of the people is tantamount to the evil that Jeroboam did you say? Agree.

Just more of your ignoramus posts that bare no meaningful discussion in this discussion,

You both need to own up to your own actions, neither one of you are qualified to teach in my opinion

 

[cv5]

Just more of your ignoramus posts that bare no meaningful discussion in this discussion,

You both need to own up to your own actions, neither one of you are qualified to teach in my opinion

"bear"....not "bare".

 

[Jordon]

Making unqualified unlearned Calvies the teachers of the people is tantamount to the evil that Jeroboam did you say? Agree.

this is how the true Calvie affiliates teach if your intrested, it's all about abiding in his word.

Where as your imaginary view of the Calvies is the exact opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/live/RrbfPvQrfq4?si=UmcBRi7Zvt5VLhzj

 

[cv5]

this is how the true Calvie affiliates teach if your intrested, it's all about abiding in his word.

Denying and avoiding ≠ abiding.

 

[Genez]

But also this should tell you he makes people beleive with his irresistible grace

You just can not resist to say that. Can you?

How are we going to have the oneness you claimed to desire if you keep throwing out such a wedge?

 

[Genez]

That would depend on the relative strength of the TWO beliefs. Those who believe in "free will" might love that idol more than they love Jesus Christ.

But, how can any unbeliever have any love for Jesus Christ, when an unbeliever does not believe Jesus is real?

 

[Jordon]

Denying and avoiding ≠ abiding.

nope this true Calvie affiliate says the living word is for everyone, where as your word says the exact opposite, which makes you the mr meany

https://www.youtube.com/live/RrbfPvQrfq4?si=UmcBRi7Zvt5VLhzj

 

[cv5]

nope this true Calvie affiliate says the living word is for everyone, where as your word says the exact opposite

Everyone that got lucky in the pre-birth sovereign lottery?

 

[reneweddaybyday]

he did create logically a fallacy tho, you should read his posts, so your not taking magentas concerns on board here, it's one thing to have your own disagreement with her, but it's another to find fault in her, for other people's actions, this has to stop,

the fallacy was pointed out by Magenta ...

Magenta said:​

You did done a logical fallacy ...​

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and lrs68 acknowledged in this reply ...

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lrs68 said:​

Lol yeah I like jordon and was trying to say it nicely but ended up typing words not needed lol​

she's a good Christian,

I have never said Magenta was not a good Christian.

and you've just said you don't support another crew here but here you are supporting there madness and finding fault in magenta for it.

nope ... I merely pointed out that Magenta commented about a fallacy lrs68 submitted and further pointed out that Magenta submitted a logical fallacy concerning me.

lrs68 was courteous enough to acknowledge ... Magenta has yet to acknowledge her error.

btw ... which "crew" do you support?

do you disagree that there is only one church? ... one body of the Lord Jesus Christ over which the Lord Jesus Christ is the Head ... that the members are to have the same care one for another as revealed in Scripture ... that separating the body of Christ into "crews" results in a schism in the body ... which is not something God desires per 1 Cor 12:25.

And the reason I was showing concern for your opening post was, where you not reasoning that abrahams faith was counted as righteousness unto him later on in this thread ? , when quite clearly genessis states the lords faith was planted in him,

please provide chapter and verse supporting your claim that "quite clearly genessis states the lords faith was planted in him" ... thanks!

So your opening post of this thread could be grounded upon on an untruth,

I submitted the first post in this thread on 07/05/2025. I have now gone through all posts submitted through 07/15/2025 (10 days) ... no one replied to the points made in the first post I submitted in this thread ... if Magenta ... or anyone else for that matter ... had an issue with the post, they did not bring it up at the time.

now you have commented and I have asked you for additional information and I will consider whatever Scripture you provide. thanks.

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[reneweddaybyday]

that's what I said, ? But they don't see the light of the gospel the saving light

Here is what God says about the light of the Lord Jesus Christ ...

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

truly tragic that the Light is rejected ...

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[Jordon]

the fallacy was pointed out by Magenta ...

Magenta said:​

You did done a logical fallacy ...​

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and lrs68 acknowledged in this reply ...

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lrs68 said:​

Lol yeah I like jordon and was trying to say it nicely but ended up typing words not needed lol​

I have never said Magenta was not a good Christian.





nope ... I merely pointed out that Magenta commented about a fallacy lrs68 submitted and further pointed out that Magenta submitted a logical fallacy concerning me.

lrs68 was courteous enough to acknowledge ... Magenta has yet to acknowledge her error.

btw ... which "crew" do you support?

do you disagree that there is only one church? ... one body of the Lord Jesus Christ over which the Lord Jesus Christ is the Head ... that the members are to have the same care one for another as revealed in Scripture ... that separating the body of Christ into "crews" results in a schism in the body ... which is not something God desires per 1 Cor 12:25.





please provide chapter and verse supporting your claim that "quite clearly genessis states the lords faith was planted in him" ... thanks!





I submitted the first post in this thread on 07/05/2025. I have now gone through all posts submitted through 07/15/2025 (10 days) ... no one replied to the points made in the first post I submitted in this thread ... if Magenta ... or anyone else for that matter ... had an issue with the post, they did not bring it up at the time.

now you have commented and I have asked you for additional information and I will consider whatever Scripture you provide. thanks.

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so just to clarify you don't believe the lords faith was planted in Abraham ?

 

[Jordon]

the fallacy was pointed out by Magenta ...

Magenta said:​

You did done a logical fallacy ..​

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Yep that right he painted quite a few logical fallacies against me then then said he liked me, then painted more logical fallacies against me.​

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lrs68 said:​

Lol yeah I like jordon and was trying to say it nicely but ended up typing words not needed lol.​

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this is where he says he liked them more post followed painting more logical fallacies against me after this post, so your judge of character and witnessing isn't very good I'm afraid to say.​

I have never said Magenta was not a good Christian.

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are you sure about that ? Do you think nice people stop speaking to you for no reason at all,.

nope ... I merely pointed out that Magenta commented about a fallacy lrs68 submitted and further pointed out that Magenta submitted a logical fallacy concerning me.

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oh come on you where trying to prove she's not nice.

lrs68 was courteous enough to acknowledge ... Magenta has yet to acknowledge her error.
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nope he's was quite rude quite a lot of times, its not wise to judge one person over the other. And you only seem to pulling out the nice things he said, I wonder why ?

btw ... which "crew" do you support?

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I support people who need support

do you disagree that there is only one church? ..

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no I don't disagree but it's not united, untill people can answer simple truths here, which isn't hard to do, and so far between me and you I believe you've rejected quite a lot I've shown you.

one body of the Lord Jesus Christ over which the Lord Jesus Christ is the Head ... that the members are to have the same care one for another as revealed in Scripture ... that separating the body of Christ into "crews" results in a schism in the body ... which is not something God desires per 1 Cor 12:25.

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not so long ago you where very rude to me and told not to pray for you, I hadn't said anything wrong to you, so your not perfect, if it's any constellation, neither am I.

please provide chapter and verse supporting your claim that "quite clearly genessis states the lords faith was planted in him" ... thanks!.
I submitted the first post in this thread on 07/05/2025. I have now gone through all posts submitted through 07/15/2025 (10 days) ... no one replied to the points made in the first post I submitted in this thread ... if Magenta ... or anyone else for that matter ... had an issue with the post, they did not bring it up at the time.
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well when you make an opening post, the light if that post doesn't always show at first.

now you have commented and I have asked you for additional information and I will consider whatever Scripture you provide. thanks.

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I will wait for you answer if you believe the lords faith was planted in Abraham first.

 

[Magenta]

are you sure about that ? Do you think nice people stop speaking to you for no reason at all,.

She was not even part of this thread and came in here breathing out lies and multiple false accusations against me, while
lecturing us on how Christians should and should not be speaking to each other, as if her post was some role model how-to.

Jordon, I have such people on ignore because they never own up.

Or because like other perverts and God blasphemers, they are also just too disgusting.

Some of them are so dishonest, they know I have them on ignore but expect answers from me anyways.

 

[Jordon]

You just can not resist to say that. Can you?

How are we going to have the oneness you claimed to desire if you keep throwing out such a wedge?

can't resist to say what ?

Are you disappointed about God making people believe again ?

I don't get how that could offend anyone, you must be serving a different master or something

 

[YWPMI]

Well considering I don't follow Thelogian scholars I would not know what verses you speak of, I do my own personal study to find the truth for myself if the bible says something that is what I believe the truth is found in his word not from scholars

So again what does the bible say about it?

What you SHOULD ask, is if they've read the writings of the ORIGINAL authors. not the ones written afterwards ... adding and subtracting what The Holy Spirit gave the ORIGINAL writers. i.e. study the Word in those languages.