Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Since you are unable to present Scripture that plainly claims what you are trying to make people believe it does I am not worried because it's obvious that the only one not understanding Scripture is YOU!
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 goes with this

Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
 
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 goes with this

Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
That just explains the condition of sin. It doesn't say you can't understand the Gospel.
 
That just explains the condition of sin. It doesn't say you can't understand the Gospel.
incorrect sir

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 explains the they are blinded spiritualy by inner darkness


Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

And this passage tells you so
 
incorrect sir

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 explains the they are blinded by spiritualy by inner darkness


Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

And this passage tells you so
It says IF.

Saying IF at the beginning of a statement means just the opposite of what the sentence says.

Are you on purpose ignoring the IF to make it mean what you want?

How is ignoring the IF obeying God?
 
Does God save them or their own freewill ?


If you are laying on the ground, and the doctor asks you to hold your arm out so he can inject you with the antidote needed to save you from a poison you accidently ingested?

Did you save yourself by holding your arm out?
 
It says IF.

Saying IF at the beginning of a statement means just the opposite of what the sentence says.

Are you on purpose ignoring the IF to make it mean what you want?

How is ignoring the IF obeying God?
so the word if means a person can't have inner darkness ?

2 Corinthians 4:34 states people are blinded by satan also

What is satan darkness or light ?

Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Who is evil and dark ?

I guess you can't make a comparison
 
NOT in the CONTEXT of 1Timothy it isn't. Also, how can the Gentiles = each and every person in the world w/o exception when there are also millions of Jews in the world? Even Jesus in his High Priestly prayer in Jn 17 and in his Good Shepherd Discourse (Jn 10) recognized and acknowledged TWO flocks of sheep -- Jews and Gentiles!

Im not gonna get into replacement theory or graftin in or out. But even jews aside in the church age Gentiles mean every single other human on earth.
 
so the word if means a person can't have inner darkness ?

2 Corinthians 4:34 states people are blinded by satan also

What is satan darkness or light ?

Matthew 6
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Who is evil and dark ?

I guess you can't make a comparison
Let me use IF in a sentence for you.

IF I hit you it will hurt.
Now, did I say I am going to hit you or did I say IF I hit you?

See how IF changes things and you are completely ignoring that GOD uses IF for the beginning of the Verse.
 
Let me use IF in a sentence for you.

IF I hit you it will hurt.
Now, did I say I am going to hit you or did I say IF I hit you?

See how IF changes things and you are completely ignoring that GOD uses IF for the beginning of the Verse.
err your not making much sense, 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 starts of by saying if our gospel is veiled being stated by a believer towards unbelievers who the gospel is blinded to.

The believer say it is veiled to people who are spiritualy blinded by evil, darkeness, inner darkness.

The gospel is not just text it's the living word of the lord, the light,.

And the darkness has never understood the light.

The light is hidden to the darkness as the darkness can not see the light, and the deeds of the darkness are seen in the light,
 
err your not making much sense, 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 starts of by saying if our gospel is veiled being stated by a believer towards unbelievers who the gospel is blinded to.

The believer say it is veiled to people who are spiritualy blinded by evil, darkeness, inner darkness.

The gospel is not just text it's the living word of the lord, the light,.

And the darkness has never understood the light.

The light is hidden to the darkness as the darkness can not see the light, and the deeds of the darkness are seen in the light,
The fact God starts with IF tells us that everyone can understand the Gospel because Jesus said whosoever believes will be Saved.
 
Let me use IF in a sentence for you.

IF I hit you it will hurt.
Now, did I say I am going to hit you or did I say IF I hit you?

See how IF changes things and you are completely ignoring that GOD uses IF for the beginning of the Verse.

Are we re defining the word if now to? So im up to world, all, if, and Gentile.
 
Are we re defining the word if now to? So im up to world, all, if, and Gentile.
Tell me is there a difference in meaning between the 2 sentences I am presenting?

I am going to walk over the bridge.

IF I am going to walk over the bridge.

Do both sentences mean the same or does the single word IF change the meaning to one of the sentences?
 
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Tell me is there a difference in meaning between the 2 sentences I am presenting?

I am going to walk over the bridge.

IF I am going to walk over the bridge.

Do both sentences mean the same or does the single word IF change the meaning to one of the sentences?

100% different
 
You are making it mean something it doesn't because the word IF proves it doesn't happen like you are fibbing and claiming it does.

There are four class conditions in the Greek to the word always translated "if".

Do you know if it was a first class condition? 2nd? 3rd? 4th?

Knowing the correct condition could turn someone's pet interpretation on its head.
 
There are four class conditions in the Greek to the word always translated "if".

Do you know if it was a first class condition? 2nd? 3rd? 4th?

Knowing the correct condition could turn someone's pet interpretation on its head.
Actually there's other options for IF but that's not what you presented.


But I do know there's optional meanings and that is why I am debating them because each meaning proves how they're presenting the Verse wrong a multitude of different ways.
 
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There are four class conditions in the Greek to the word always translated "if".

Do you know if it was a first class condition? 2nd? 3rd? 4th?

Knowing the correct condition could turn someone's pet interpretation on its head.

I dont know Greek or anchient Greek. I will trust God's word isint fooled by a man's inability to translate the word if. When he wrote it in English. The language i understand.
 
There's no such thing as a person being responsible to get saved. Salvation is a Gift given an inheritance.

God offers the gift of salvation, and sinners are responsible for satisfying the condition of accepting God's gift.
God initiates; sinners cooperate--or not (John 3:16-18).
 
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But the unregenerate are not humble by nature. And the reason they aren't is because God has never poured his Agape Love into their hearts to love Him. Only this kind of love does not boast, is not arrogant, is not proud.

You shouldn't blame their damnation on God.
 
IF means a proposition which means it's not real.

yeah, the "if" is there because "it IS hid to them that are lost" and is not hid to those who aren't lost, hence, the "if".
The reason we know this is by the "in whom the god of this world HATH blinded the minds of them which believe not"
and by the "lest the light of the glorious gospel hath blinded" and "SHOULD shine unto them" if not for the god of this word

[2Co 4:3-4 KJV]
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.