Israel and the present conflict
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IDK parrots are rather smart. My father used to tell us a story about a store he went to as a kid. The owner had a parrot and the neighborhood boys used to tease it. They would say "Charlie has a girlfriend" and apparently the bird would curse them back side forward. Someone needed to lead that bird to the Lord.
After a quick Google "Parrots do both: they are brilliant mimics, but research shows many, especially African Greys, also understand context, concepts, and can use words meaningfully, not just repeat sounds. They learn to associate words with objects, actions, and emotions, using them appropriately to communicate needs, make requests, and even engage in social interactions, demonstrating a surprising level of cognitive and linguistic ability beyond simple imitation."
Well you said I mocked God and then pointed me to my post in which I said you venerate and worship the Jews and Jerusalem. Nothing was said about God, so....
Hitler killed 6 million people who called themselves Jews.
Claiming to be a Jew and actually being one is not the same.
Did you not think this out before making such a comment?
Numbers 24:9
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9 Like a lion they crouch and lie down,
like a lioness—who dares to rouse them?
“May those who bless you be blessed
and those who curse you be cursed!”
Genesis 12:3
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3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Matthew 24:6-8
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6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
New International Version
9 Like a lion they crouch and lie down,
like a lioness—who dares to rouse them?
“May those who bless you be blessed
and those who curse you be cursed!”
Genesis 12:3
New International Version
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Matthew 24:6-8
New International Version
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
The notion that the current nation that calls itself "Israel" is the same as the biblical nation of Judah of the New Testament is flawed to its core.
Jesus would no more consider those who claim to be Jews today as Jewish as He did the woman at Jacob's Well in John 4.
Jesus would no more consider those who claim to be Jews today as Jewish as He did the woman at Jacob's Well in John 4.
Hope you won't mind telling us a bit more about your anti-Christ.
Will he sit in the third temple and rule the earth?
It would make the "bless Israel" policy pretty awkward in that situation wouldn't it?
I hope you are not planning on setting the whole thing up to unleash on us, then rupturing your Rs out of here?
That would be a bit sneaky, (not to mention antisemitic) wouldn't it?
Mods, this is the type of thing some of us are talking about. Surely there are people here that are Jews. People had their entire families murdered, because they were Jews. We had a few of these Holocaust deniers here over the years, but it is gaining lately here with more people coming in with this POV. This is flat out propaganda. It would be like saying Pearl Harbor never happened. That's a flat out lie, the same as this is.
Just think: All the people cursing them in these pages right now are being cursed!
Can you point out those posts in which anyone is cursing Israel?
I wouldn't worry about me so much. It is God who can see into the hearts of everyone. He knows who opposes Jews and refuses to acknowledge them as such.
I wouldn't worry about me so much. It is God who can see into the hearts of everyone. He knows who opposes Jews and refuses to acknowledge them as such.
OK, so make an indirect accusation of cursing and then not show examples of that when asked.
Can you please define what cursing means to you? I view it as an imprecation, but you and a few others seem to consider it to be something else.
Curse in this verse means to accurse. I haven't seen anyone here do that. And if someone doesn't bless or curse, then
according to this verse there is no blessing or cursing on God's part
H779 אָרַר 'arar (aw-rar') v.
to accurse, to devote to destruction, to bitterly curse.
accurse
G331 ἀνάθεμα anathema (a-na'-the-ma) n.
1. an irrevocable vow of destruction.
God pronounced a curse on Israel for not keeping the law
according to this verse there is no blessing or cursing on God's part
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 12:3
CurseH779 אָרַר 'arar (aw-rar') v.
to accurse, to devote to destruction, to bitterly curse.
accurse
- To devote to destruction; to imprecate misery or evil upon; to curse; to execrate; to anathematize.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8-9
AccursedG331 ἀνάθεμα anathema (a-na'-the-ma) n.
1. an irrevocable vow of destruction.
God pronounced a curse on Israel for not keeping the law
Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. Deuteronomy 27:26
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Galatians 3:10
Do you not know that it was Hitler who decided who was a Jew and who was not? It was based on ancestry. Hitler was obsessed with what he called racial purity and superiority. He based this on Darwinian evolution. So Germany had extensive records of the ethnicity of the population.
You obviously are ignorant of Jewish culture during the diaspora. You should learn some history. If someone was not a Jew, they would not have needed to wear the yellow star that Germany required in WW2. Hitler made it clear that he considered Jews to be inferior. Many Jews left Germany as a result. They were the smart ones.
Hitler even had a percentage of Jewish ancestry that qualified or disqualified someone as Jewish. Jewish communities kept themselves separate from gentiles, which left them vulnerable to pogroms that happened from time to time. In spite of that kind of violence, many Jews retained their identity. They married within their own communities also.
Paul actually pronounced this curse on his fellow believing pharisees who were troubling gentile believers in Galatia. Hopefully they repented.
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9
He was talking about thisAnd certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. Acts 15:1-2
But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. Acts 15:5
Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: Acts 15:24