Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[BillyBob]

Most do not.... It is as if she has a spell cast on it so we won't notice it.
As if it gives her a chuckle to see what power she has over others.

If she does not like me saying that?
Then she should remove the reason for me stating what is obvious once one is shown.

I bumped into witches while attending a Bible college.
I eventually saw through their facade.
Mystified me as why they would want to attend.
I kept quiet, hoping they would get saved...

For some, it is to make themselves familiar with the language we speak.
That is what enemy spies do...

By the way.

That unicorn?

Speaks just like Mr. Ed, but with a lisp.

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Men can also be witches. Are both you and B_H witches? If so, are you members of the same coven?
I only ask because you both seem to have a great deal of knowledge concerning witches.

 

[Genez]

Seems like a statement that accurately reflects the God of the Bible. After all, we are told “I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy.”
Oh, I forgot! You believe this makes Him unfair. . . .

If that were so?
Your God sounds more like a deified Caligula.

When God tells us that he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy?

That means stop begging/demanding God to save someone you want saved.

For you do not know that person as well as you think you do.
God will have mercy if that person warrants mercy.
Stop telling God what to do.
He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy...


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[Nedsk]

Let me ask you a question: Did Jesus have a sin nature?

No but he had a human will and a divine will. It would not have been a sin for him to refuse the cross but he chose the cross out of love for us and love requires a free act of the will otherwise it's not love. There is no greater love than to lay down ones life for his friends. Maximilian Kolbe is a great example. Had he been forced it would not have been love

 

[Jordon]

After spending eight years in a hellish relationship with covert narcissist, this forum has an all to familiar vibe for me.
I've had all the training I desire.

>>> slowly backing out the door

Much love, much peace.
Well said.

miss spelt there what does this thread have to do with narcism or narcissists

 

[Jordon]

I believe Adam knew what he was doing.

Yep its called the mind not listening.

Because Gods will was in him to choose life

 

[Nedsk]

from ##29158 Do you think the natural man possesses the attributes of Jesus? Was Jesus a child of wrath
in your view? Was He deserving of death? I believe He laid down His life willingly. How about you?

Difficult to discuss anything with dishonest people. Or those who refuse to answer questions while demanding answers.

Was Jesus' will captive to the will of the devil as mortal humans are?

Was He blinded as the whole world is?

Was He opposed to the Spiritual things of God as the natural man is???

I thank Jesus for rescuing me from the dominion of darkness. No mortal human could have done that.

Accusing me of being dishonest implies I saw it but ignored it. I missed it. Then if you believe that then he had free will just like you do.

 

[Jordon]

Wow you're getting agitated. I can't talk with people who use their potty mouth language.

So if Jesus was free to refuse the cross so are we free to do his will it not. Some times we choose the former and sometimes we choose the latter.

Free will lives in the flesh as cited in scripture.

And watch how you speak to the ladies

 

[Magenta]

Accusing me of being dishonest implies I saw it but ignored it. I missed it. Then if you believe that then he had free will just like you do.

I simply said dishonesty is not conducive to constructive convos (paraphraising).

Gosh. Are you agitated or something???????????????????????

Serving up more logical fallacies does not really help your case either.

Got anything better?

And, do you think Jesus was captive to the will of the devil? Blinded? Opposed to God? Unable to submit?

Those things are said of the natural man which you claim is the same as Jesus.

 

[Nedsk]

Free will lives in the flesh as cited in scripture.

And watch how you speak to the ladies

As it did in Jesus.

Well I don't accept people ladies or otherwise to use that kind of language when talking to me. I didn't talk to her that way. I will talk any way I like to people who speak to me that way. If they ban me they ban me but I don't let people mistreat me with words

 

[Jackson129]

I should have included in my prior post to you that I do not think that our "response" carries any weight with God regarding salvation. It is all of and by God, He is the Savior, not us. He saves whom, based upon His prerogative and good pleasure, He chose for it regardless of our pre-salvation response to it - otherwise, no one would ever become saved

I dont go that hard in that direction. I know God gave us souls. Even evil people like Manson had a soul. And that soul which is of God is what gives every man woman and child (age of understanding) the very basic part neccessary to reject or receive the gospel. Those who receive it and rejoice in it and continue into greater faith or those who receive it and reject it. But it is our soul which is of God that can understand the bare minimum to begin that journey or not. Why some people turn evil or good or Christians is something i cant say for a certainty. I just dont think of our loving God as someone who created people for the sole purpose of throwing them into hell. If everyone is without excuse then everyone had a chance.

 

[Nedsk]

I simply said dishonesty is not conducive to constructive convos (paraphraising).

Gosh. Are you agitated or something???????????????????????

Serving up more logical fallacies does not really help your case either.

Got anything better?

And, do you think Jesus was captive to the will of the devil? Blinded? Opposed to God?

I wasn't dishonest. If you don't like being called out stop dong it.

 

[Magenta]

I wasn't dishonest. If you don't like being called out stop dong it.

I did not say you were. If you don't like being called out stop dong it.

 

[Jordon]

As it did in Jesus.

Well I don't accept people ladies or otherwise to use that kind of language when talking to me. I didn't talk to her that way. I will talk any way I like to people who speak to me that way. If they ban me they ban me but I don't let people mistreat me with words

theres a difference free will in man is the law to Disobey, and free will in the flesh of Jesus was sin free

 

[Jackson129]

Men can also be witches. Are both you and B_H witches? If so, are you members of the same coven?
I only ask because you both seem to have a great deal of knowledge concerning witches.

Arnt the men version wizzards? Or warlocks. Got to be up to date on your gender terminology haha

 

[HeIsHere]

If I've learned anything here over the years... context is relative to the observer. Lol

Context can be correctly discerned by those who apply a consistent hermeneutical framework and lean into the leading of the Spirit of Truth, if not, then we can all just pack our bags and give up. imho.

 

[Genez]

Men can also be witches. Are both you and B_H witches? If so, are you members of the same coven?
I only ask because you both seem to have a great deal of knowledge concerning witches.

You could ask that if we appeared and acted like one, like she does.

Believers should possess some knowledge about witches.
May I ask why do you have the knowledge like you do concerning witches?

I was not seeking to learn about witches.
God led me quietly into each learning lesson.

After all. The Spirit shall guide us into all truth. John 16:13
Apparently, God deemed it needed for me to learn for my particular gift He gave me.

grace and peace .....

 

[Magenta]

Context can be correctly discerned by those who apply a consistent hermeneutical framework and lean into the leading of the Spirit of Truth, if not, then we can all just pack our bags and give up. imho.

You better pack you bags with all the error you present...

 

[Genez]

Arnt the men version wizzards? Or warlocks. Got to be up to date on your gender terminology haha

I heard it straight from the mouth of a witch speaking at a college gathering in a student center.
Men are also called witches. He disliked the term warlock.

 

[Cameron143]

And some believe he only exerts it on the chosen.

According to Hebrews 1:3, Jesus upholds all things by the word of His power. Seems to me that God influences everyone to some degree.

 

[BillyBob]

Arnt the men version wizzards? Or warlocks. Got to be up to date on your gender terminology haha

AI Question: Can men be witches?
Answer: Yes, men can be witches. While the term "witch" is often associated with women in modern culture, it is historically a gender-neutral term. Historically, men were also accused of and punished for witchcraft, and many modern practitioners identify as witches regardless of gender.

I really did not know, so I ask AI. Take it for what it's worth