Israel and the present conflict
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"The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of enabling man to find reasons to continue to believe, whatever it is that he wants to believe.'
Voltaire
"There is no greater tyranny than that of ones own opinion"
Author Unknown
Search the scriptures alone, or search the notes in your Scofield bible. They are truly independent one from the other.
Be blessed, be well, and may the grace and mercy of God ever be upon you.
I have these beliefs BECAUSE I have studied the Word and history. I can make the same claim about what you believe. This is a divisive subject, I don't mean this as a personal attack. But I believe when God makes a promise He keeps it. But I do thank you for the blessings and return them.
What if someone really, really, believes they are a female but are biologically male? Do you think it's ok because it makes them feel better? Or does the fact remain there are only two genders?
Also to Christ who is the seed.
As King of Israel He does with the land what He knows to be right.
Mathew 21 33-44
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Which was to give the land to Christ in fulfillment of Genesis 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:18
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He didn't say, And to your descendents, as of many; but as of one, And to your seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:16
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. John 3:35
@ThereRoseaLamb We are in the end times. I can't wait to be by your side for 1000 years teaching these folks the basics of Bible doctrine.
Give me a break. The co-called Palestinians could be living in their own state now. That was the UN plan from the beginning. The Arabs and many Palestinians rejected the two state solution. Many still do. They will only accept one state, a Palestinian state.
There are two million Arabs living in Israel. Most of them are Muslim. They get to vote, they can enter parliament, they can hold high office.
"Palestinian" is a construct courtesy of Yasser Arafat, the terrorist who found the PLO May 1964. You talk about dehumanising? How about the murdering of Jews because they are Jews? How about the 5 nation assault on Israel as soon as she declared independence? How about 6 million Jews murdered by Hitler based on a total lie?
Tell me how many Jews live in Muslim countries. Hardly any, apart from the UAE. Jews have been driven out from most of the Middle East, usually without compensation.
So-called Palestinians brought their troubles on themselves. Even with vast amounts of aid, they make no progress. Gaza voted for Hamas. Hamas is the very definition of inhumane. That's not Israel's fault.
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When you guys are up there in the sky and Jesus is here ruling over us from Israel,
aren't you going to miss Him?
I do not care where He is, I would want to be with Him even in hell.
When you guys are up there in the sky and Jesus is here ruling over us from Israel,
aren't you going to miss Him?
I do not care where He is, I would want to be with Him even in hell.
Typical Zionist tactic. Accuse others of that for which you are guilty. The Zionists are trying to replace Christians as God's Chosen People. Fortunately, the scriptures don't allow it, and it outs their cherished beliefs as heretical.
Yes we know people are well trained in "whataboutism."
Oh you are a history scholar like @ThereRoseaLamb, you have examined all the various negotiations in detail with objectivity, examined all the migration patterns of the region, the economics, social, political history, US and British Geo-political meddling in the area going back over a hundred years, the exploitation of the indigenous people and on and on.
Give me a break.
There are probably only a handful of real experts on the economics, political and historical events (aka international relations) of this region and I doubt you have even read one of their books.
Why in the world are you bringing gender into this discussion? I don't see the relevance.
Let me give you an example about my position on gender:
If the question is "Is it okay for an adult in the United States to look at pornography?" you must ask: "from what standard are you defining the word 'okay'?"
If it from a legal standard, that is, a standard of the law of the land the answer is "Yes, it is okay for an adult, unless forbidden by statute, to look at pornography."
If it is from the standard of Christ, that is, a standard of the rule of Holy Spirit the answer is "No, it is never okay to view pornography."
In the case of gender, before the social engineers got a hold of the word, natural science (Biology and Anatomy) demonstrates that, genetic abnormalities excluded, there are only two genders. The Holy Spirit concurs: "Let us make them male and female."
However, in the United States, (follow me here) the law permits each citizen and everyone counted as a beneficiary of the law of the land, to have a unique definition of "life, liberty, and happiness" so long as the practice of their version of each does not impinge on the rights of any other citizen. This is why there way so much wrangling
Such a standard does not exist in the Kingdom of God: what is true is defined by the Lord. And He is not swayed by a person's feelings about what is established by Him.
Food for thought: it's not a coincidence that the "wordsmiths" of the world are leading the charge to change the culture away from a belief where knowledge of God is central to our most profound thoughts. They are the counterfeit peddlers of ideas that have been opposed to the truth since the beginning.
Christ is now the Lord over all creation so it is included in Him too.
For in Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything He might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, 20 and through him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.