When did the anti-Israel stance start from the right?

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

As far as I'm concerned what Israel does in middle east is between them and God; but foreign interest groups have drawn the ire of populists by taking focus away from our own economy and other domestic affairs. As Netanyahu said himself, Israel needs to be less reliant on the US.

Yes, Israel really needs to focus their attention on God and realize their need for Jesus. He's really the only one who can and is consistently willing to help her.

There will come a time when the US won't be able to or won't be willing to help Israel anymore, especially when most of the US Christians will be persecuted and killed during the great tribulation.

Then the only ones who will have power to run the US will be unbelievers who are likely to hate Israel and not support her anymore.

 

[mailmandan]

It's like 1400 years of butchery and bloodshed never happened, because
in the minds of the deceived, Islam is a religion of peace, after all.

Speaking of Islam. They don't plan on assimilating to new countries. They just plan on taking them over.

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[Dude653]

well there's anti-Semitism on both sides.

if you go far enough to the right you get people marching down the streets with torches yelling Jews will not replace us.

if you go far enough to the left, you get people on college campuses supporting hammas

the right wingers anti-Semitism comes from xenophobia, the left wingers anti-Semitism comes from misplaced wokeness

 

[ZNP]

well there's anti-Semitism on both sides.

if you go far enough to the right you get people marching down the streets with torches yelling Jews will not replace us.

if you go far enough to the left, you get people on college campuses supporting hammas

the right wingers anti-Semitism comes from xenophobia, the left wingers anti-Semitism comes from misplaced wokeness

1. Give us the correct view of the holocaust. Make sure you address whether or not the broad way that leads to destruction would include the Holocaust on the way. Also make sure you include whether or not the Great White Throne judgement by God in which some people are sent to hell is righteous judgment. Thanks

 

[blueluna5]

I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?

Yes it's confusing. Ultimately it stems from Jews not actually being Jews. Not only are they not Jews by blood, but many are actually atheists.

The main issue (in my opinion) is the government like always. We are constantly giving money to Israel bc it's literally always at war...like every other country around there.

Initially I was under the impression they are simply defending themselves and deserve to exist essentially. However... They break peace treaties and everything. It gets tiresome.

I want to protect the people, but the leaders in charge are tiresome. Imagine having corrupt leaders in charge who know that no matter what a giant country like America will come in like Daddy and save them. This basically allows them to be a spoiled a**hole and do whatever they want. Granted Israel was very similar... So the irony is not lost on me.

I guess my issue is that most leaders are not actually Jewish and that they are atheists. So they're using us... Long story short.

 

[Dude653]

even if some criticisms of Israel are legitimate, the fact still remains, Israel possesses the firepower to turn Gaza into a parking lot over a weekend and they don't do it.

if you were to reverse that power dynamic, there wouldn't be a Jew Left alive

 

[gb9]

even if some criticisms of Israel are legitimate, the fact still remains, Israel possesses the firepower to turn Gaza into a parking lot over a weekend and they don't do it.

if you were to reverse that power dynamic, there wouldn't be a Jew Left alive

this does not happen often, but 100% agree with you here..

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Yes it's confusing. Ultimately it stems from Jews not actually being Jews. Not only are they not Jews by blood, but many are actually atheists.
.

There is the Jewish race and Judaism is the religion. You can be a Jew and not religious. Yes, many of them are non believers because they have been blinded for a time as Romans 11 says. And yes, they are Jewish,there is DNA proof to back that up. That is a myth that has been around for years.

The main issue (in my opinion) is the government like always. We are constantly giving money to Israel bc it's literally always at war...like every other country around there.

Initially I was under the impression they are simply defending themselves and deserve to exist essentially. However... They break peace treaties and everything. It gets tiresome.

Actually that is untrue, Israel is not the one that breaks the peace treaties or refuses them, that is Hamas. The money given to Israel actually benefits the US which isn't true of many of the countries the US gives money to.

I want to protect the people, but the leaders in charge are tiresome. Imagine having corrupt leaders in charge who know that no matter what a giant country like America will come in like Daddy and save them. This basically allows them to be a spoiled a**hole and do whatever they want. Granted Israel was very similar... So the irony is not lost on me.

Well Hamas are actual terrorists, Israel is surrounded by enemies on every side. Israel does not do whatever it wants. Israel is the one who is wanting peace. Hamas simply wants the Jews pushed into the sea.

I guess my issue is that most leaders are not actually Jewish and that they are atheists. So they're using us... Long story short.

Yes, they are Jewish, they just don't practice the religious part of being Jewish. Leaders all around the world are atheists. But Netanyahu is not an atheist. And they are not using us. The US benefits from it's partnership with Israel.

 

[Charlesiii]

I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?

America first is not anti-Israel anymore than it is anti-Ukraine. If Americans in America got what Israelis in Isreal were entitled to, such as free healthcare, government grants etc., they would be less resistant to the US government giving foreign aid to other countries like Israel. However, American veterans are living on the streets, some Americans can't afford to continue to live in the suburbs where they grew up (despite working one or more full-time jobs!), and the US government insists on sending the state of Israel foreign aid and fighting its wars?!?! If anything, Israel should be paying America for its services! Unless the US government meets its obligations to its own citizens, the idea of giving the people's stolen income (tax) away to corrupt foreign governments that hate America should be unthinkable.

(Also, nobody wants to support a genocidal regime, but Israel could easily address this by putting Netanyahu and his henchmen on trial).

 

[JohnDB]

It started with Candace Owen and Tucker Carlson.

First off Tucker is a lunatic. He was put on Fox News because he's pretty and could pontificate well so long as he was made to stick to scripts approved.
His popularity went to his head and he got fired for being a lunatic and failing miserably to journalist integrity (he has zero)

Candace Owen is a different story.
She WAS a mainstream conservative reporter and commentator that discussed things like Black Lives MMatter and Republican strategies. She once had worked for Turning Point ministries. (Fairly normal)

Then she landed at the Daily Wire and became familiar with Ben Shapiro unfortunately.
Ben is (and always has been a pipsqueek with little man syndrome) and regularly degrades people based upon the color of their skin. Which Candace took exception to. She tried for months to get Ben to bend a bit as she felt personally attacked by his daily tirades. They both hated the whole BLM program but Ben kept making it a racial issue instead of Ideological and economic class problem.

So Candace took up antisemitism as a core ideology in her broadcasts to strike back at Ben Shapiro thinking it would stop Ben from being an idiot. It didn't because Ben Shapiro has an enormous ego as well as little man syndrome.

Since leaving the Daily Wire, Candace learned from Tucker Carlson how sensationalism could propel her podcast to profitable levels to a point of income that rivaled her earlier salaries and exceeded them. So she went more conspiracy theory to get better ratings. She knew that she could never get a salaried position again at any reputable news outlet for her Antisemetic rants so she went for clicks and advertising revenue instead.

Truth doesn't matter to these people. They exchanged journalistic integrity for money and sold out. No different from anyone else in the podcast field like Megan Kelly, Nancy Grace, or Tim Pool.

 

[Charlesiii]

So Candace took up antisemitism as a core ideology in her broadcasts to strike back at Ben Shapiro thinking it would stop Ben from being an idiot. It didn't because Ben Shapiro has an enormous ego as well as little man syndrome.

Candace Owens isn't antisemitic, and she's too smart to think anyone could stop Ben Shapiro from being his idiot self. She's just a good reporter (probably one of the few who have been so thorough and honest in recent years), and those in power don't like it. Claims of "antisemitism" have historically been an easy accusation made by corrupt people in power to have an enemy disregarded, but the people have become wise to it.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

America first is not anti-Israel anymore than it is anti-Ukraine. If Americans in America got what Israelis in Isreal were entitled to, such as free healthcare, government grants etc., they would be less resistant to the US government giving foreign aid to other countries like Israel.

There is no such thing as free healthcare. And like they say, you get what you pay for, free healthcare is bad healthcare.

However, American veterans are living on the streets, some Americans can't afford to continue to live in the suburbs where they grew up (despite working one or more full-time jobs!),

Well that's Americans fault for voting in Dems. As long as they keep doing that the country will continue to be a mess.

and the US government insists on sending the state of Israel foreign aid and fighting its wars?!?! If anything, Israel should be paying America for its services! Unless the US government meets its obligations to its own citizens, the idea of giving the people's stolen income (tax) away to corrupt foreign governments that hate America should be unthinkable.

Israel is the only democracy in the ME. America and Israel both benefit from the money that is sent to them. Not true of most of the countries we give money to.

(Also, nobody wants to support a genocidal regime, but Israel could easily address this by putting Netanyahu and his henchmen on trial).

Israel is not a genocidal regime. Fake news. Oct 7 Jews were the victims.

 

[stilllearning]

I'm neither left nor right. I've always been on Israel's side pretty much. I was behind them after Oct. 7; but when they started committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, that's too much. I'm still pro-Israel, but genocide is going too far and I can't support that.

When Amalek sneak attacked Israel and God demanded that they never forget that day. Later to commission Saul to kill man, woman, child, and cattle. Would you say God committed genocide?

 

[JohnDB]

Candace Owens isn't antisemitic, and she's too smart to think anyone could stop Ben Shapiro from being his idiot self. She's just a good reporter (probably one of the few who have been so thorough and honest in recent years), and those in power don't like it. Claims of "antisemitism" have historically been an easy accusation made by corrupt people in power to have an enemy disregarded, but the people have become wise to it.

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

And Candace got scorned.
And she is not in a mood to forgive especially when the money is good.

 

[JohnDB]

Candace Owens isn't antisemitic, and she's too smart to think anyone could stop Ben Shapiro from being his idiot self. She's just a good reporter (probably one of the few who have been so thorough and honest in recent years), and those in power don't like it. Claims of "antisemitism" have historically been an easy accusation made by corrupt people in power to have an enemy disregarded, but the people have become wise to it.

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

And Candace got scorned.
And she is not in a mood to forgive especially when the money is good.

 

[JohnDB]

One of the things about Israel.

They do have ONE dispensation left. (Not nearly as many as they claim) It's mighty thin but it still exists.
That set aside for a moment....

Let's take a look at History.

EVERY Nation that has made Israel a Vassal State has collapsed. None have not.

Currently, Israel exists because of the UK and the USA....mostly the USA because the UK was Vassal to the USA when they controlled Israel. Even today Israel is still dependent upon the USA for a LOT of things. Munitions is only one thing. It's not a completely one sided relationship as Israel does things for the USA.

So....Currently Israel, as a nation, is not exactly the best behaved towards the USA or are they the most morally superior nation even if they are better in some ways than their neighbors. And in some ways morally worse. Dealing with them takes forever to get a clean deal over anything.

Syria and Lebanon are the illicit amphetamine suppliers to the world.

Egypt? I don't want to even start with their problems. Even if Hosni Mubarak was corrupt he was 10x better than what's happening now.
Jordanians? Just nope out of anything you might wish to do with them.

That being said...

Israel is the least Stinky turd in the cesspool.

 

[Charlesiii]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

And Candace got scorned.
And she is not in a mood to frgive especially when the money is good.

I don't believe those are her motives, (especially given Charlie Kirk's text messages - if anyone got scorned, if was genocidal Netanyahu and his henchmen) but even if they were, you can't fault her for her accuracy. This is why I like her, but she also does it in such a funny and honest way. It's an added bonus it makes lyin' or dumb-as-a-Hammer stooges weep and wail and gnash their teeth.

 

[Charlesiii]

There is no such thing as free healthcare. And like they say, you get what you pay for, free healthcare is bad healthcare.

So you can understand some things when it suits you, Roast Lamb? Perhaps some Americans would prefer bad healthcare to no healthcare at all, or at least an option to choose? Irrespective, the matter is that the US is funding Israel, and Israelis get healthcare free (and many other subsidies), so the US is effectively paying for these, while Americans do not even get an option to have these things for free at all (even if you argue that Israeli healthcare is bad, which is a silly argument if you know about the subject). Perhaps it should be Israel funding the US?

Well that's Americans fault for voting in Dems. As long as they keep doing that the country will continue to be a mess.

Wrong. Politicians on both sides of the aisle support sending funds to that country at the expense of Americans. The ones who don't get threatened out of politics - MTG.

Israel is the only democracy in the ME. America and Israel both benefit from the money that is sent to them. Not true of most of the countries we give money to.

Laughable if not so sad. Netanyahu is a tyrant certainly no better than Hitler. Even now, his honest countryman do all in their power to hold him to account for his corruption.

Israel is not a genocidal regime. Fake news. Oct 7 Jews were the victims.

Fake news. Corrupt Netanyahu allowed the attacks to happen, and who knows, probably even funded them. Charlie Kirk himself said he was very suspicious that the attacks may have been allowed before he was publicly executed.

I am reminded why I had you on ignore, Roast Lamb, so will say goodbye again for now.

 

[HeIsHere]

So you can understand some things when it suits you, Roast Lamb? Perhaps some Americans would prefer bad healthcare to no healthcare at all, or at least an option to choose? Irrespective, the matter is that the US is funding Israel, and Israelis get healthcare free (and many other subsidies), so the US is effectively paying for these, while Americans do not even get an option to have these things for free at all (even if you argue that Israeli healthcare is bad, which is a silly argument if you know about the subject). Perhaps it should be Israel funding the US?

Wrong. Politicians on both sides of the aisle support sending funds to that country at the expense of Americans. The ones who don't get threatened out of politics - MTG.

Laughable if not so sad. Netanyahu is a tyrant certainly no better than Hitler. Even now, his honest countryman do all in their power to hold him to account for his corruption.

Fake news. Corrupt Netanyahu allowed the attacks to happen, and who knows, probably even funded them. Charlie Kirk himself said he was very suspicious that the attacks may have been allowed before he was publicly executed.

I am reminded why I had you on ignore, Roast Lamb, so will say goodbye again for now.

It defies understanding really, like an alternate universe devoid of reality, it takes such a toll on one that I had to do the same.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I am reminded why I had you on ignore, Roast Lamb, so will say goodbye again for now.

A rather cowardly move to name call a person then put them on ignore. How childish.