When did the anti-Israel stance start from the right?

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I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?
 
I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?

I'm neither left nor right. I've always been on Israel's side pretty much. I was behind them after Oct. 7; but when they started committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, that's too much. I'm still pro-Israel, but genocide is going too far and I can't support that.
 
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I'm neither left nor right. I've always been on Israel's side pretty much. I was behind them after Oct. 7; but when they started committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, that's too much. I'm still pro-Israel, but genocide is going too far and I can't support that.
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I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?


It seems there are a lot of talking heads trying to change people's opinions about Israel. I don't believe Israel is always right. In fact no country is always right. But let's see how this all goes down. Yet another offer for peace has been made, yet again Israel has agreed even while getting the dirty end of the stick, let's see if peace will happen this time.
 
I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?


Well the great falling away is either about to arrive or already has. So some Christians are going to hate Israel and say that we've replaced Israel.

They are saying that the Israelis in modern Israel are not the same as the ancient chosen people that God gave promises to. But from what I see, God is protecting them and seems to think they are genuine Israel, so I'm going with what He thinks.

Anyway, not surprised about any of this being that we are fast approaching the very last of the last days.


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This is manifesting itself because we are in a spiritual war. When the veil is torn off from politics and culture, the enemy reveals himself. For those paying close attention, and it sounds like you are, you get a glimpse of the enemy sowing seeds of division and hatred toward God's chosen people. Not just Israel, but all believers.

James 4:1-4 touches on this well.
“What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? … You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore whoever chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.”

The enemy is always trying to take our focus off of God and sow seeds of division. We need to stay vigilant.
 
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I'm neither left nor right. I've always been on Israel's side pretty much. I was behind them after Oct. 7; but when they started committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, that's too much. I'm still pro-Israel, but genocide is going too far and I can't support that.

I've never known of 1. food being sent to people you're trying to genocide. 2. sending warnings to tell people to leave which you intend to genocide. If Israels intent was to genocide Hamas they've failed badly.
 
I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?

When?
It started about 10 years ago when a lot of people (due to the charms of the Internet ) became AVID conspiracy theorists.
So therefore The Jooooooos are the illuminati who run all the things in the world.

This is actually a very nice conversation starter during holidays, gatherings with your friends, thanksgiving with your family, or even at work!
You can start with : What do you think about the Jews? This should be followed immediately with: Why did the Jews want to make us believe we went to the Moon? Everyone knows the Earth is flat!

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I'm neither left nor right. I've always been on Israel's side pretty much. I was behind them after Oct. 7; but when they started committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, that's too much. I'm still pro-Israel, but genocide is going too far and I can't support that.

I am pro Israel too. What I’m not pro is the sitting PM, who seems to have a mission to destroy Israel. On this one I support Trump strong arming him to stand down and stop what he is doing. The Israeli PM is a threat to the existence of Israel.
 
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If October 7th had never happened, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Hamas and hezbollah could have continued to fire volleys of rockets into Israel and killed Israelis, Israel would have retaliated and killed palestinians, the world would blame Israel, and nothing would change.

It would have been the same ol same.
 
I know not every conservative is a Christian but it’s still whiplash in many conservative forums where there’s a big anti conservative stance. Reading Fox News moments about Israel and its overwhelming negative forwards that nation. I’m Christian, go to church and the consensus I always “Israel is right, defend them always”. I don’t remember the vitriol towards them ever like this. I expected it from the left but never from the right. Are Christians simply in their own bubble and island at the moment?

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Eventually the whole world will be against Israel especially when God turns them to the truth and the new age interpretation of religions is what they believe.

When the antichrist starts working in the world the Gentile nations will cause all Hebrews to go back to Israel.
 
Well the great falling away is either about to arrive or already has. So some Christians are going to hate Israel and say that we've replaced Israel.

They are saying that the Israelis in modern Israel are not the same as the ancient chosen people that God gave promises to. But from what I see, God is protecting them and seems to think they are genuine Israel, so I'm going with what He thinks.

Anyway, not surprised about any of this being that we are fast approaching the very last of the last days.


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The falling away in not the Church for the Church cannot fall away for the gates of hell cannot prevail against it, and the hypocrites do not belong to the Church.

When the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth they will stop the preaching of the Gospel of Christ and the belief in a personal God which they will say it is not the truth and they want peace in favor of the new age interpretation of religions that exalts people.

When the New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age for three and one half years which then the falling away happened which the transgressors have come to the full.

Then he will claim to be God and persecute all people who oppose his system.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world the Gentile nations will cause all Hebrews to go to Israel which God will turn them to the truth so everything will be straightened out.
 
The falling away in not the Church for the Church cannot fall away for the gates of hell cannot prevail against it, and the hypocrites do not belong to the Church.

When the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth they will stop the preaching of the Gospel of Christ and the belief in a personal God which they will say it is not the truth and they want peace in favor of the new age interpretation of religions that exalts people.

When the New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age for three and one half years which then the falling away happened which the transgressors have come to the full.

Then he will claim to be God and persecute all people who oppose his system.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world the Gentile nations will cause all Hebrews to go to Israel which God will turn them to the truth so everything will be straightened out.


I'm not talking about the church, I'm talking about individuals within the church who, for whatever reason, stop believing the truth that is in Christ. These apostate don't even have to renounce their faith officially, they just have to stubbornly stick to false doctrine/teaching. Plus a person can't fall away from something they have never believed, so this is not talking about unbelievers.

Do you not already perceive the growing numbers of believers who cling to false doctrine/teaching and will not accept God's truth?


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I'm not talking about the church, I'm talking about individuals within the church who, for whatever reason, stop believing the truth that is in Christ. These apostate don't even have to renounce their faith officially, they just have to stubbornly stick to false doctrine/teaching. Plus a person can't fall away from something they have never believed, so this is not talking about unbelievers.

Do you not already perceive the growing numbers of believers who cling to false doctrine/teaching and will not accept God's truth?


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2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

The falling away is talking about unbelievers which this is not a falling away of people in the Church that fell from the truth.

But it is a falling away of what the world used to allow especially America that one day the world will stop the preaching of the truth going by a belief system that exalts people.

Which allows the man of sin to be able to rule over them which he goes by that belief system.

Which is why the Bible says the saints will not be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first and the man of sin claims to be God.

Because the falling away is what causes the man of sin to rule over them.

Christians who are believing false doctrine/teaching are not going to cause the antichrist to be able to rule over the world.

But it is going to take the nations governments to stop the truth from being preached on a world wide level.

The New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age that exalts people for three and one half years which at the end of that time it is the falling away first when then transgressors have come to the full which causes the man of sin to rule the world.

The falling away causes the antichrist to be able to claim to be God and rule the world.

Which it will not be because some people who claim to be a Christian are believing false doctrine/teaching.

But it has to take action of the unbelievers to stop the preaching of the truth to cause that for it has to be the condition of the world what they believe and allow for the man of sin to be able to rule.

The falling away first concerns the world of what the world used to allow especially America that one day the world will stop the preaching of the truth going by a belief system that exalts people.

The world used to allow the Gospel and the belief in a personal God but they fell away from doing that to adhere to the New Age Christ and his agenda for the world.

Which allowed the antichrist to rule over them.

The falling away first is when the transgressors are come to the full the condition of the world.

And then a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up, the man of sin who claims to be God.
 
As far as I'm concerned what Israel does in middle east is between them and God; but foreign interest groups have drawn the ire of populists by taking focus away from our own economy and other domestic affairs. As Netanyahu said himself, Israel needs to be less reliant on the US.
 
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