The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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Where is your faith when you say. "No one can"

Dear GWH

Please list the names of people who have never sinned. Include your own name if so persuaded.

I have only one name on my list. Jesus

The rest of your post means nothing unless you have a list with a bunch of names on it besides Jesus of course.

Sincerely,

pinebeach, well known member
 
If you think something is impossible, then it will be impossible for that person.

If you think you will remain in sin and remain sinning then you will remain in sin.

Jesus forgives and cleanses us of all sin when we repent.

The cost of my sin is huge.. it means Jesus had to die and suffer.
The king of the universe the son of God died because of my sin...

I can believe that I can keep sinning.. I can not overcome, I can fail, I can sin and think that God will just keep forgiving me. But that would be selfish.

God will forgive me because His love is so deep. But I don't want to sin because it is the cause of so much pain.. I love Jesus and my love motivates me to not hurt my saviour.

We are not worthy of anything because we are sinners but Jesus desires to come into us and free us from sin in every way.

Do you believe we can not stop sinning, do you believe there is any bad habit or evil sin in your life that God CAN NOT save you from?

I believe God can SAVE ME FROM ALL SIN

BOTH past and present.
 
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Dear GWH

Please list the names of people who have never sinned. Include your own name if so persuaded.

I have only one name on my list. Jesus

The rest of your post means nothing unless you have a list with a bunch of names on it besides Jesus of course.

Sincerely,

pinebeach, well known member

I think you meant to address TMS.
 
If you come to the place were you believe that you can not stop sinning than you will continue to sin... The impossibility lies in your own will. If you will not, then you can not overcome. The real difficulty arises from the corruption of an unsanctified heart, and an unwillingness to submit to the control of God.

The flesh longs to continue to sin and is good at making excuse to sin.
The crucified flesh is dead and the Spirit of God in us does not fail.

Some are following and feeding the flesh, thinking and acting in accordance with the promptings of their own heart;. Others are following or living for the Spirit, seeking to repress selfishness, to overcome inclination, and to live in obedience to the Master Jesus. Who's your master or who are you a servant to?

Rom 8:4-8
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
We are all one in Christ... jew or gentile we are all grafted into the Jewish rootstock.

The same laws apply to us all. God saves us all in the same way.

Paul was writting to the Gentiles in Rome... Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:12-13
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

As followers of Jesus we are all under the same covenant. Regardless of nationality.

Here is one topic in the scripture that you are clearly in error.

I know that you were raised in the SDA religion and so you will disregard what I have to say.

You are in error because you followed a scriptural tradition in reading the scripture.
Your not following what the scripture clearly teaches.

What is the difference between the Old Covenant and New Covenant.
Using scripture only. Especially regarding the law, the commandments?

AI said:

Here is a Scripture-only comparison between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, focusing on the law and commandments:

The Old Covenant
  • Given at Sinai
    “And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.” (Deuteronomy 4:13)
  • Conditional – based on obedience
    “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people.” (Exodus 19:5)
  • Law written on stone
    “And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables.” (Exodus 34:1)
  • Brought death/condemnation
    “For the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious… which glory was to be done away.” (2 Corinthians 3:6–7)

The New Covenant
  • Promised beforehand
    “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel… Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers… which my covenant they brake.” (Jeremiah 31:31–32; quoted in Hebrews 8:8–9)
  • Law written on the heart
    “But this shall be the covenant… I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts.” (Jeremiah 31:33)
    “This is the covenant that I will make… I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts.” (Hebrews 8:10)
  • Established through Christ’s blood
    “This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.” (Luke 22:20)
    “By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.” (Hebrews 7:22)
  • Not of the letter, but of the Spirit
    “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” (2 Corinthians 3:6)
  • Fulfills the law through love
    “For this is the covenant… I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people.” (Hebrews 8:10)
    “Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” (Romans 13:10)
📖 Summary in Scripture
  • Old Covenant: law written on stone, dependent on human obedience, brought condemnation (Deut 4:13; Ex 19:5; 2 Cor 3:7).
  • New Covenant: law written on hearts, established by Christ’s blood, gives life through the Spirit, fulfills the law in love (Jer 31:33; Luke 22:20; 2 Cor 3:6; Rom 13:10).
 
“But this shall be the covenant… I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts.” (Jeremiah 31:33)
“This is the covenant that I will make… I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts.” (Hebrews 8:10)

The analogy that Paul gives in Gal 4 is the best understanding of the new and old..

The bible states that the old failed because they didn't do it by faith.

Doing it (keeping the law) by the flesh and doing it by your own power is what made the old fail.

Doing it (keeping the law) by faith and trusting God to do it in us by His power is the new covenant..

Both contained the 10 commandments

But the new states that God will write them on the heart. By trusting God through faith that He will create His image in us.


Abraham had a child by doing it in his power and he had a child by faith in God's power.

We can keep the law by the flesh or by faith..

Israel failed because they focused on doing it themselves.
 
Summary in Scripture
Both result in obedience

One by human effort = old covenant
One by faith in God = new covenant.

The human efforts mean nothing..
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Many in the old testament obedied by faith, they keep the law by faith... read Heb 11..

God did not remove the law but wants us to accept it by faith.

God's power is greater then man's power to obey..
 
I have always said the same as the conclusion

gives life through the Spirit, fulfills the law in love

Fulfills the law in love

By love through faith in the power of Jesus we will keep the law

Do you have faith in God to write the law on your heart... the whole law... not just 9.
 
If you come to the place were you believe that you can not stop sinning than you will continue to sin... The impossibility lies in your own will. If you will not, then you can not overcome. The real difficulty arises from the corruption of an unsanctified heart, and an unwillingness to submit to the control of God.

The flesh longs to continue to sin and is good at making excuse to sin.
The crucified flesh is dead and the Spirit of God in us does not fail.

Some are following and feeding the flesh, thinking and acting in accordance with the promptings of their own heart;. Others are following or living for the Spirit, seeking to repress selfishness, to overcome inclination, and to live in obedience to the Master Jesus. Who's your master or who are you a servant to?

Rom 8:4-8
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

This is baloney. Now it sounds like you are talking about sinlessness and there is no such animal. Maybe your flesh longs to sin and feed itself, but mine does not. If you are actually a believer and have the Holy Spirit within, your desires change, your whole life changes and you do no dwell on sin. You dwell on God and no longer follow all the old ways you once did.
 
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If you come to the place were you believe that you can not stop sinning than you will continue to sin.

Ever hear of new life in Christ? Are you not aware that God does not see us as we currently are, but sees us as made perfect in the righteousness of His Son?

You are discouraging with constantly dwelling on and talking about sin.

Why not focus on Jesus and all that He has done for us and what righteouness in Him means? It DOES NOT mean try harder not to sin and certainly is not someone thinking they cannot sin. I guarantee that you are not sinless and somehow 'worthy' of salvation. The entire point, THE ENTIRE POINT, is that we were never 'worthy' and we will never be 'worthy'.
 
By love through faith in the power of Jesus we will keep the law

This is anti-Biblical. You are confusing what Jesus has done in fullfilling all of the law and transferring it to your account and confusing it further with the expression 'love through faith'. The only real love is God's love for us and the sacrifice of His Son for us.

Jesus, NOT YOU OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING, has kept all the law and by doing so, fullfilled the righteousness of God. You cannot do so, whether or not you have accepted Christ.

Don't come back with 'if you believe you keep them, you will but if you do not think you can, you will sin." That is found nowhere in scripture. Instead, we are informed that we have no righteousness of our own to boast about. Rather, the righteousness of Christ covers us.

I don't think you understand what occurs at salvation. You have ZERO part to play other than putting your trust in Jesus. HIS work, not yours, secures salvation. What you are saying, is that the commandments play a part in your salvation and they do not. Not one person here thinks that means we are free to sin unless they are

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galatians 5:1
 
Want gospel are you referring to, some follow Christ some Paul, Many say it is the same gospel many say they are different gospels

“The law and the prophets ( Old Testament ) were until John:


since that time the kingdom of God is preached, ( New Testament ) and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭


“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:23‬ ‭



“The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; And his kingdom ruleth over all.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭103:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“as ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children, that ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:11-12‬ ‭

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭


The gospel I’m talking about is the one they are all talking about the one all the apostles were commissioned by Jesus to preach to gentiles. Which Jesus first preached to them , then fulfilled it and his promise of the Holy Ghost and which he then sent them filled with the Holy Ghost to preach to all People in his name.

My position is if we say “ the gospel “ the gospel of the kingdom of God “ the gospel of the kingdom “ the gospel of Jesus Christ “ the gospel of the grace of Christ “ the gospel of peace “ the gospel of god “ ect ect

it’s just referencing the one and only Gospel which is everything concerning the lord Jesus who was born as promised , and gave grace and taught the truth from God . Who preached the word long promised for salvation and life then who suffered and died for humanities sin , then who rose up from the dead and ascended to the right hand of God as he said he would in the gospel , and finally who fulfilled the promise of the Holy Ghost given to those who repent and believe in his name which ….. we learn in the gospel. Like we hear everything else we’re meant to believe

There’s just the gospel tone preaching other things should read all the warnings about being cursed
 
Was the covenant God established at Mt Sinai only between God and Israel? Gentiles could join that first covenant but the NT seems to indicate that. The Gentiles were foreigners to that covenant. Using the scripture only. Was the first covenant a covenant of legal works, a covenant of the flesh?

I asked AI the questions below.

(1) who the Sinai covenant was made with
(2) whether Gentiles were inside or outside of it, of the first covenant
(3) whether Scripture itself characterizes it as a covenant of “legal works” or “the flesh.”
(4) only use the scripture as the source

Here is the reply from AI to the three questions above.

1. Was the Sinai covenant only between God and Israel?
Yes. Scripture is explicit: the covenant at Sinai was made with Israel alone.
Key verses
Exodus 19:3–6
God speaks to “the house of Jacob…the sons of Israel” and offers them the covenant.
Exodus 24:3–8
Israel alone responds, “All that the LORD has spoken we will do,” and Moses sprinkles the blood of the covenant on the people of Israel.
Deuteronomy 5:2–3
“The LORD our God made a covenant with us at Horeb.
The LORD did not make this covenant with our fathers,
but with us, all of us alive here today.”
This is one of the clearest declarations that the covenant was specifically with the nation standing at Sinai.
Psalm 147:19–20
“He declares His word to Jacob…
He has not dealt thus with any nation.”
2. Could Gentiles enter the Sinai covenant?
Scripture shows that Gentiles could join Israel and thus participate in the covenant—but they were not native participants.
Foreigners could join—but only by becoming part of Israel
Exodus 12:48
“When a stranger sojourns with you and wants to keep the Passover…let all his males be circumcised; then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land.”
To join the covenant, a Gentile had to accept the covenant sign (circumcision) and effectively be treated as an Israelite.
This means:
  • Gentiles were not natural members of the Sinai covenant.
  • They could join, but only by entering Israel through circumcision.
The NT confirms Gentiles were foreigners to this covenant
Ephesians 2:11–12
“You Gentiles in the flesh…were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise.”
This directly states:
  • Gentiles were outside the Sinai covenant.
  • They were foreigners to Israel’s covenants.
Thus the NT perfectly harmonizes with the OT: the Sinai covenant was not made with Gentiles.
3. Was the first covenant a covenant of “legal works”?
Yes—Scripture itself describes the Sinai covenant as a covenant of works, contrasted with the new covenant of grace.
Paul: the Law is not of faith — it is works
Galatians 3:10–12
“The law is not of faith; rather ‘He who does them shall live by them.’”
This is a covenantal principle:
Life is obtained by doing → therefore it is a works-based covenant.
Romans 10:5
“Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them.”
This is the fundamental nature of the Sinai covenant:
“Do this and live.”
4. Was the first covenant a covenant “of the flesh”?
The NT says yes, in several interconnected ways.
(A) It was based on the fleshly sign of circumcision
Galatians 4:23–24
Paul calls one covenant “born according to the flesh.”
He directly connects this to Mount Sinai (v.24–25).
(B) It relied on human obedience rather than the Spirit
Hebrews 8:9
“They did not continue in My covenant…”
The covenant depended on human ability (“the flesh”), not the Spirit.
(C) The law operates in the realm of the flesh
Romans 7:5–6
“While we were in the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law…”
This ties the Mosaic law to the sphere of “flesh.”
(D) Paul contrasts the “letter” (Sinai) with the “Spirit” (New Covenant)
2 Corinthians 3:6–7
“The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life…
The ministry of death, carved in letters on stone…”
The “letter” = commandments engraved in stone = Sinai.
This is the sphere of “flesh,” not Spirit.
Summary (Scripture Only)
1. Was the Sinai covenant only with Israel?
Yes. (Ex 19; Dt 5:2–3; Ps 147:19–20)
2. Could Gentiles join?
Yes, but only by becoming part of Israel through circumcision.
They were foreigners to the covenant by nature. (Ex 12:48; Eph 2:12)
3. Was the Sinai covenant a covenant of legal works?
Yes. Scripture itself says:
  • “The law is not of faith.” (Gal 3:12)
  • “He who does them shall live by them.” (Rom 10:5)
It was a do-this-and-live covenant.
4. Was it a covenant of the flesh?
Yes.
  • Associated with circumcision, a fleshly sign.
  • Described as “according to the flesh” (Gal 4:23–24).
  • Operates in the realm of the letter, not the Spirit (2 Cor 3:6).
Right . Was the covenant made at Sinai broken ? …yes . Was a new covenant promised that would not be according to the one they broke made from sinai ? Yes . Was the new covenant made only with israel ? It was first preached only to israel , and later was sent by god through those isralites who believed to all humanity by the great commission . Which was the promise always that he would raise up the house of Israel and then send them to all with salvation
 
Yes. And then Jesus called Paul personally and made him the apostle to Gentiles.

Or are you of the belief that Paul was not an Apostle? Yes or no question but feel free to include scripture in your answer as long as said scripture is in context.

Jesus appointed all the apostles to preach to anyone from the start definately Paul was an apostle no more than any other. He first preached to Jews and then after they rejected it he preached to gentiles just as the other apostles were all doing like Peter when he first converted gentiles and they were filled with the same spirit as he and the other Jews had been .

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

Paul was a Roman citizen and had much different education and social practical skill and requirement such as his natural .by birth , Roman citizenship. This allowed him to naturally be the lead for the gentile ministries in the Roman world , practically so . It saves him more than once being. A Roman citizen which the others werent .

Paul’s message was to Jew and gentile and that there’s no difference between Jew and gentile but anyone who believes and is baptized has become a child of God in him belonging to his word and mediation on the New Testament.
 
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The Bible does present the Ten Commandments as the covenant itself. In Exodus 34:28, it is written:

"So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments."

"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone (Deuteronomy 4:13, NKJV)

This clearly states that the Ten Commandments are the covenant. When we look at Jeremiah 31:31-33, we see God speaking of a new covenant, but notice what He says:

"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."


This passage does not say the law itself would change. Instead, it tells us that the ten commandments that are the covenant instead of being written on stone tablets, would be written in our hearts and minds. That means the law remains the same, but its place changes, from external tablets to internal conviction. This is why we see in the Gospels of John, Matthew, Luke and Mark, Jesus teaching the commandments and magnifying them.

Now, let's connect this with the Ark of the Covenant. In Deuteronomy 10:1-5, God commanded Moses to place the two tablets of the Ten Commandments inside the Ark:


"At that time the Lord said to me, ‘Hew for yourself two tablets of stone like the first, and come up to Me on the mountain, and make yourself an ark of wood... Then I turned and came down from the mountain, and put the tablets in the ark which I had made; and there they are, just as the Lord commanded me.’"

This shows the special place of the Ten Commandments, inside the Ark, symbolizing their central role in the covenant. But what about the rest of the law? In Deuteronomy 31:24-26, Moses wrote the book of the law and placed it beside the Ark:


"So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: ‘Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you.’”

This distinction is important. The Ten Commandments being described clearly as the Covenant were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant, showing their eternal, unchanging nature as the foundation of the covenant. The rest of the law was placed beside the Ark, acting as a witness.

Now, when Jeremiah speaks of the law being written in our hearts, he is speaking of the same law, the Ten Commandments. The "new" part of the covenant is not that the law changes but that God Himself ensures it is within us, guiding us from within rather than being an external set of rules. This aligns perfectly with how Jesus upheld and fulfilled the law, always pointing back to love for God and neighbor as the foundation of obedience (Matthew 22:36-40).

So, the New Covenant is not about replacing the Ten Commandments but about making them part of who we are.

Blessings
Yes,it is a covenant. Moral guidelines for self and worship of God.

I don't know any Christian who dismiss the Ten Commandments as being done away with.That's because they aren't.
 
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the commandments are not part of the gospels?? you say? that is a LIE!

Here are just a few verses showing that the commandments are part of the gospel,

Jesus:

  • “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17 NKJV)
  • “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17 NKJV)
  • “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19 NKJV)
Paul:

  • “For we know that the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good” (Romans 7:12 NKJV)
  • “Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters” (1 Corinthians 7:19 NKJV)
  • “I delight in the law of God according to the inward man” (Romans 7:22 NKJV)

You understand your own way but it is not from the bible.


The Old Covenant is a physical covenant for a physical people with a physical law, physical promises and a physical priesthood.

the New Covenant is a Spiritual Covenant for a spiritual people with a spiritual law and spiritual promises and a spiritual priest.

The only difference between the two; the promises. both must have a "consideration", which is obeying the voice of God. When you buy a home, what you pay is your consideration. Therefore: the Torah stands. The 10 Commandments are in the Torah.
Without a consideration neither a covenant or a contact is valid, legally valid.
 
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The Old Covenant is a physical covenant for a physical people with a physical law, physical promises and a physical priesthood.

the New Covenant is a Spiritual Covenant for a spiritual people with a spiritual law and spiritual promises and a spiritual priest.

The only difference between the two; the promises. both must have a "consideration", which is obeying the voice of God. When you buy a home, what you pay is your consideration. Therefore: the Torah stands. The 10 Commandments are in the Torah.
Without a consideration neither a covenant or a contact is valid, legally valid.
yes valid if Both party agree. it is a 2 sided covenant and valid for those who love Jesus and Keep the commandments like He asled us to do.
 
Yes,it is a covenant. Moral guidelines for self and worship of God.

I don't know any Christian who dismiss the Ten Commandments as being done away with.That's because they aren't.
Unfortunately some do reject the ten commandments they think it was done away with and replaced with something else but They never can explain with what.
 
“The law and the prophets ( Old Testament ) were until John:


since that time the kingdom of God is preached, ( New Testament ) and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭


“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:23‬ ‭



“The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; And his kingdom ruleth over all.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭103:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“as ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children, that ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:11-12‬ ‭

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭


The gospel I’m talking about is the one they are all talking about the one all the apostles were commissioned by Jesus to preach to gentiles. Which Jesus first preached to them , then fulfilled it and his promise of the Holy Ghost and which he then sent them filled with the Holy Ghost to preach to all People in his name.

My position is if we say “ the gospel “ the gospel of the kingdom of God “ the gospel of the kingdom “ the gospel of Jesus Christ “ the gospel of the grace of Christ “ the gospel of peace “ the gospel of god “ ect ect

it’s just referencing the one and only Gospel which is everything concerning the lord Jesus who was born as promised , and gave grace and taught the truth from God . Who preached the word long promised for salvation and life then who suffered and died for humanities sin , then who rose up from the dead and ascended to the right hand of God as he said he would in the gospel , and finally who fulfilled the promise of the Holy Ghost given to those who repent and believe in his name which ….. we learn in the gospel. Like we hear everything else we’re meant to believe

There’s just the gospel tone preaching other things should read all the warnings about being cursed

When Jesus said that “the law and the prophets were until John” in Luke 16:16, He did not mean that God’s commands ended. He meant that from John and onward the message became open to all people in a new and greater way, because the King Himself had arrived to bring God’s kingdom near. This is why Jesus went everywhere preaching the gospel of the kingdom, calling all to repent and believe, just as you quoted in Mark 1:14–15 and Matthew 4:23. He showed the kingdom in His teaching, His mercy, and His healing. Later He said this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world before the end comes, as in Matthew 24:14. After His resurrection He sent the twelve to continue the same message to every nation when He said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature” in Mark 16:15–16.

All these verses show one simple truth: Jesus preached one gospel, the gospel of the kingdom. It is the same gospel He taught from the beginning. It is the same gospel He lived, fulfilled, and confirmed by His death and resurrection. It is the same gospel He told the apostles to carry to every nation. It is the same gospel that calls every person to repent, believe, obey His words, and enter God’s kingdom with a new heart through the Holy Spirit whom He promised and sent.

When the apostles continued this work, they did not create new messages. They taught what Jesus taught. They called people to repent, to turn from sin, to walk in righteousness, and to live by the words of Christ. Everything they preached was meant to lead people into the kingdom that Jesus opened. Any talk about “another gospel” must therefore be understood by Jesus’ own standard: there is only one gospel, the gospel of the kingdom that He Himself preached from the start.
So when we speak about “the gospel of the kingdom,” “the gospel of Jesus Christ,” “the gospel of the grace of God,” or any other phrase, these are not different messages. They point to the same thing: the full truth about Jesus, His teaching, His sacrifice, His resurrection, His promise of the Spirit, and His call for us to follow Him. Anything that pulls people away from the clear words of Jesus, anything that replaces His teachings with another way, is not the gospel He preached.

Jesus warned us Himself that many will turn aside. He said people would not endure sound teaching, and they would follow their own desires. This is why we stay with Jesus’ words. His gospel is enough. His gospel is clear. His gospel leads us to life.

Blessings
 
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