Please help me to understand

[Ouch]

***just can't help yourself, are you always rude or to those who share the truth in HIS word?

>>>> Typical responce to the Truth, you attack the messenger as you can not rebuke the Word shared in Spirit.

***Next time use glue and screws, I got out.

>>>> Pretty dry humor... I need a drink.

***John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You are 100% right no man was created, how does that change the meaning of it?

>>>> Your false claimed that Jesus was both man and God at the same time, is carnal milk, it spits in the Spirit of Truth that Jesus had to suffer to regain his Glory, in layman terms EARN, by fulfilling the Will of the Father.

Stating Jesus was both flesh and God, spits in the Spiritual Truth :

Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.

>>>> How clearer can the Word of God be !?!

****Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

This verse is clear saying that in JESUS is the father the son and the Holy GHost.

>>>> Ah the idiotic triune doctrine, which is the three persons in one persons carnal mindset manure. I will tell you what, if you can post scriptures stating God is a person and the Holy Spirit is a person, well then son I will convert, but I am no holding my breathe on this failed vain attempt.


***You see, JESUS told HIS disciples,
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Notice "IN THE NAME OF" JESUS'S disciples knew who HE was, how do I know this? Because they baptized in JESUS name.
I'm trying to figure out why you can't see?
I have to ask you, Have YOU received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?
How were YOU baptized.

>>>> I am literally face palming with both hands, NOW....

I will share a simple Truth , that even a babe in Christ can discerned in Spirit.

This is what the Spirit of Jesus the Spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit are referring too :

John 14:16
1“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4And where I go you know, and the way you know.”

5Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”

6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

7“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”

8Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

9Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

10Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

15“If you love Me, keep My commandments.

16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
....
26But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

>>>> This is that Spiritual Baptism from the waters of Life, whom is Jesus the Christ of God(Christ/Messiah meaning the Anointing or the Anointed one) : The Holy Spirit sent in Jesus's name by the Father Spirit. Which is the second coming of Jesus in Spirit.

There is a HUGE Truth you are not able to SEE in Spiritual Truth:

"But the Helper, παράκλητος (paraklētos) Strong's 3875. paraklétos

>>>> This verse clarifies who the Helper(paraklētos) is :

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

an Advocate παράκλητον (paraklēton) Strong's 3875. paraklétos

>>>> The Faithful, who receive this Spiritual 3875. paraklétos are baptize in Spirit, by this second coming of Jesus in Spirit.

Only in Spirit, does Jesus come like a thief in the night(the darkness of mankind's ignorance/carnal knowledge)

There is a lot more here to discern in Spiritual knowledge, but seeing as you are of the triune doctrine I will just shake my sandals and move on, knowing you will not/ can not receive this Spirit of Truth.


27Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.

29“And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe.

30I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

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>>>> The rest of your post basically restates what I just shared but you have no Spirit to discern this truth, as you have chosen to instead to wrap yourself in the doctrines of mankind(flesh) and so what you posted is simply Jesus in Spirit, coming in your darkness.


Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

The Holy Ghost is a promise to ALL.

>>>> I will leave you now.... just simply ignore me [/QUOTE]

I'm not hear to play games, find another toy.

Seeds have been planted, sorry I can't make you see that JESUS job.

Best of luck.

 

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Do you guys travel in packs.... ?!?

Into the ignore bin you go ...

Fyi, I'm sharing GOD word all on my own.

To your surprise others know it as well.

Are you humble?

Guess not since your putting people who do in your ignore bin.

 

[Ouch]

NOT! one scripture... gee I wonder why ?!?

AHEM ....

1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues,

7greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.

9Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whoever exalts himself will be [e]humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

13“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

15“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

16“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ 17Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold?

18And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ 19Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? 20Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.

23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of Sheol?

34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38See! Your house is left to you desolate;

39for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

>>>> HEY! Hypocrite , should I be as subtle as Jesus is Here !?!

You stated : "the Spirit does not include ridicule"

"How ridicule is defined

• Belittling language or behavior: It involves making someone or something the object of laughter and scorn.
• Malicious intent: It is often deliberate and intended to cause harm or show contempt.
• Associated with foolishness: The Bible often portrays ridicule as a foolish behavior, and describes mockers as those who seek wisdom in vain."

Jesus just broke all of your mankind's definitions, what say you NOW to Jesus !?!

I have Faith in Jesus, who did just that to show your ignorant-errors.

Here is a Truth you may want to consider, and it comes with a lot of SPIRITUAL CREDIBILITY, Jesus himself :

Luke 17:2
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

It seems the focus is on 'ridiculing' to have me banned from here, is it not ... How telling!! yeah keep grasping at your carnal straw-man.

LOL, I think Wansvic did't share scripture was because he was talking about YOU not JESUS and HIS word.

What is hypocritical about that.

If you were interested in GOD'S word and the truth more than insults and belittling people with all of your pride you would have seen that.

 

[Psalm1]

Yes, Jesus is created.

Colossians 1:15 ("firstborn of all creation") and Revelation 3:14 ("beginning of the creation by God"

To share this truth :

Jesus is the WISDOM of God, if you KNOW Jesus and God's relationship, there is absolutely noway, anyone would disagree here , is this not Truth !?!

1 Corinthians 1:24
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

witness...

Colossians 2:3
in[Jesus] whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

>>>> The OT even testified to this truth :

Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him—the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and strength, the Spirit of knowledge and fear of the LORD.

Here is the creation of God's Wisdom[Jesus] :

Proverbs 8
12“I, wisdom, dwell with prudence,
And find out knowledge and discretion.
13The fear of the Lord is to hate evil;
Pride and arrogance and the evil way
And the perverse mouth I hate.
14Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom;
I am understanding, I have strength.
15By me kings reign,
And rulers decree justice.
16By me princes rule, and nobles,
All the judges of the earth.
17I love those who love me,
And those who seek me diligently will find me.
18Riches and honor are with me,
Enduring riches and righteousness.
19My fruit is better than gold, yes, than fine gold,
And my revenue than choice silver.
20I traverse the way of righteousness,
In the midst of the paths of justice,
21That I may cause those who love me to inherit wealth,
That I may fill their treasuries.

22“The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
23I have been established from everlasting,
From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
24When there were no depths I was brought forth,
When there were no fountains abounding with water.
25Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills, I was brought forth;
26While as yet He had not made the earth or the fields,
Or the primal dust of the world.
27When He prepared the heavens, I was there,
When He drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28When He established the clouds above,
When He strengthened the fountains of the deep,
29When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,
30Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,
31Rejoicing in His inhabited world,
And my delight was with the sons of men.

32“Now therefore, listen to me, my children,
For blessed are those who keep my ways.
33Hear instruction and be wise,

And do not disdain it.

34Blessed is the man who listens to me,
Watching daily at my gates,
Waiting at the posts of my doors.
35For whoever finds me finds life,
And obtains favor from the Lord;
36But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul;
All those who hate me love death.”

>>>> I know, it is hard to let go of all your carnal riches, That is why Jesus gave the parable of Lazarus and the richman. However it all comes down to choice, you either receive this Truth in Spirit or reject this Truth.

This is what the Word of God states, despite your mocking of me... "You seem to be on a quest to nullify what the Father says about the Son."

Well unfortunately for you the bible says Jesus CREATED ALL THINGS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE.

So your cult leaders have taught you that Jesus created himself.

Lol.
What a joke the cultists are.
Egg all over their faces and humiliated.

You can not make those false fake adjustments to the bible and not get taken to school by that same bible.

Psssst...the same Holy Spirit that inspired the word, saw you bible butchers coming a hundred miles away.

 

[Psalm1]

NO assumption quest as you erroneously state, the truth is God created Jesus.

As Jesus is his Son, so to are we all his children , not of FLESH but of Spirit.

You can not grasp how the Spirit moves so you continuously grasp with limited carnal knowledge.

The Word was God , equates God with his Word. It is along the very same mantra as a person stating " I give you my word"

witness...

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’?

Jesus is not saying we are each a god, but that we are all God's, WE BELONG TO God just as Jesus does. because of God's unbound Spirit within.

It seems you are dead set on your religious theories, I say wait til judgment perhaps then you will discern Truth.

Says the antichrist cultists that denies the testimony of Jesus.

You are lost.
So lost.
Jesus is creator.

You lie about it.

All the cults refuse the testimony of Jesus.

Your wagon is empty.
You have no clue of salvation and hope to lead others to hell


I smelled your false doctrine before I saw it.
That is why I put the test to you.
WHO IS JESUS.
.....And your mask came off

 

[Falconn007]

And another child left behind, into the ignore bin.

 

[Falconn007]

Well unfortunately for you the bible says Jesus CREATED ALL THINGS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE.

So your cult leaders have taught you that Jesus created himself.

Psssst...the same Holy Spirit that inspired the word, saw you bible butchers coming a hundred miles away.

What do you think this means ;

2 Timothy 2:15
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

>>>> Read you like a cheap novel, even in your sheep's clothing :

Psalm1 - "My post was neutral and pointed to a fact."

You are just laughing at your own expose. pathetic.

 

[Falconn007]

Fyi, I'm sharing GOD word all on my own.

To your surprise others know it as well.

Are you humble?

Guess not since your putting people who do in your ignore bin.

You stated it yourself... I'm sharing GOD word all on my own. < this means you have no Holy Spirit to guide you, you are on your own interpretations of what is Holy Word of God Spirit.

This is Jesus command :

John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

witness...

Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

Galatians 5:25
Since we live by the Spirit, let us walk in step with the Spirit.

And because I share this truth you have the carnal audacity to claim :

[B]Ouch, post:[/B] - "LOL, I think Wansvic did't share scripture was because he was talking about YOU not JESUS and HIS word.
What is hypocritical about that."

Wansvic,post - "Keep in mind that the FRUIT of the SPIRIT does not include ridicule:" <- He is talking about the Fruit[Jesus] and Jesus's Words of Spirit.

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

The Word of God has expose both of you, in your lies and deceitful carnal natures.

If you want to lay the blame on me, go ahead, what is a little persecution going to do. LOL

Either you are deliberately LYING or deliberately covering for your fellow antichrist.

Either way into the bin with your lies and carnal ignorance.

 

[Psalm1]

What do you think this means ;

2 Timothy 2:15
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

>>>> Read you like a cheap novel, even in your sheep's clothing :

Psalm1 - "My post was neutral and pointed to a fact."

You are just laughing at your own expose. pathetic.

Gods word:
Heb 1
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made
Col 1
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.

Under your false doctrine you now have Jesus creating himself.

 

[Ouch]

You stated it yourself... I'm sharing GOD word all on my own. < this means you have no Holy Spirit to guide you, you are on your own interpretations of what is Holy Word of God Spirit.

This is Jesus command :

John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

witness...

Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

Galatians 5:25
Since we live by the Spirit, let us walk in step with the Spirit.

And because I share this truth you have the carnal audacity to claim :

[B]Ouch, post:[/B] - "LOL, I think Wansvic did't share scripture was because he was talking about YOU not JESUS and HIS word.
What is hypocritical about that."

Wansvic,post - "Keep in mind that the FRUIT of the SPIRIT does not include ridicule:" <- He is talking about the Fruit[Jesus] and Jesus's Words of Spirit.

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

The Word of God has expose both of you, in your lies and deceitful carnal natures.

If you want to lay the blame on me, go ahead, what is a little persecution going to do. LOL

Either you are deliberately LYING or deliberately covering for your fellow antichrist.

Either way into the bin with your lies and carnal ignorance.

So tell me what I lied about?

Here are some facts, which is all I shared.

JESUS was 100% man and is 100% GOD.

Some more facts you are the one who is doing the insulting and ridiculing and you are right they are not of GOD.

 

[Ouch]

You stated it yourself... I'm sharing GOD word all on my own. < this means you have no Holy Spirit to guide you, you are on your own interpretations of what is Holy Word of God Spirit.

This is Jesus command :

John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

witness...

Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

Galatians 5:25
Since we live by the Spirit, let us walk in step with the Spirit.

And because I share this truth you have the carnal audacity to claim :

[B]Ouch, post:[/B] - "LOL, I think Wansvic did't share scripture was because he was talking about YOU not JESUS and HIS word.
What is hypocritical about that."

Wansvic,post - "Keep in mind that the FRUIT of the SPIRIT does not include ridicule:" <- He is talking about the Fruit[Jesus] and Jesus's Words of Spirit.

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

The Word of God has expose both of you, in your lies and deceitful carnal natures.

If you want to lay the blame on me, go ahead, what is a little persecution going to do. LOL

Either you are deliberately LYING or deliberately covering for your fellow antichrist.

Either way into the bin with your lies and carnal ignorance.

I asked you, no reply.

This is what happens when JESUS fills you with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Has HE filled you with the Holy Ghost?

 

[Psalm1]

So tell me what I lied about?

Here are some facts, which is all I shared.

JESUS was 100% man and is 100% GOD.

Some more facts you are the one who is doing the insulting and ridiculing and you are right they are not of GOD.

I think he is some kid in here trolling believers.

Let's see what "church" he attends or group he associates himself with.

So far he is hiding under a " church" banner that denies Jesus testimony.

 

[Psalm1]

You stated it yourself... I'm sharing GOD word all on my own. < this means you have no Holy Spirit to guide you, you are on your own interpretations of what is Holy Word of God Spirit.

This is Jesus command :

John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

witness...

Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

Galatians 5:25
Since we live by the Spirit, let us walk in step with the Spirit.

And because I share this truth you have the carnal audacity to claim :

[B]Ouch, post:[/B] - "LOL, I think Wansvic did't share scripture was because he was talking about YOU not JESUS and HIS word.
What is hypocritical about that."

Wansvic,post - "Keep in mind that the FRUIT of the SPIRIT does not include ridicule:" <- He is talking about the Fruit[Jesus] and Jesus's Words of Spirit.

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

The Word of God has expose both of you, in your lies and deceitful carnal natures.

If you want to lay the blame on me, go ahead, what is a little persecution going to do. LOL

Either you are deliberately LYING or deliberately covering for your fellow antichrist.

Either way into the bin with your lies and carnal ignorance.

There are several verses declaring the deity of Jesus.

You can not wiggle around it.
So the barage of nonsensical character attacks are your go to.

Just plain silly and juvenile

 

[Falconn007]

I asked you, no reply.

This is what happens when JESUS fills you with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Has HE filled you with the Holy Ghost?

What you are asking is a trick-question, so I will play along with your folly.

If I say - I am filled with the Holy ghost, by what authority do I have now, to make such a claim, answer : nothing, anything I try and place as evidence would be lies and deceits.

If I answer - NO , you will use that as a carnal-excuse to not listen to the messages/angels that the Holy Spirit brings to you through me.

But why should I even attempt to explain this to you, "on your own", you would not know this Spiritual Truths.

The Faithful do not proclaim, "see my faith, therefore I am of God".

The Faithful do the works of Faith, that scream(trumpets) That the messages/angels are from God and give Glory to God.

You "LOL" at the postings I shared in reply and yet you continue !?! Are you that BLIND to not SEE nor HEAR your Spirit wanting more to feast on !?!

The difference between you and I are simple:

You believe the Holy Ghost, I know the Holy Spirit and that "holy-ghost" is an errant translation through the study the Word of God, in an assembly with the Holy Spirit. <--- this is why Faithful are commanded to not forsake the assembly of ourselves with the Holy Spirit that is sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

You believe to be filled with the holy-ghost. well how is ghost defined !?!

noun. the soul of a dead person, a disembodied spirit imagined, usually as a vague, shadowy or evanescent form, as wandering among or haunting living persons.

Synonyms: spook, shade, revenant, wraith, phantasm, phantom, apparition. a mere shadow or semblance; a trace. He's a ghost of his former self.

>>>> NO, I am not filled by ; the soul of a dead person, disembodied spirit imagined, a vague, shadowy or evanescent form, wandering among or haunting, wraith, spook, shade, a mere shadow etc.

Who or what is the Holy Spirit :

Matthew 1:20

King James Bible
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

New King James Version
But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

Translations will change with the changing of the times, and with religious and political pressure on a whim, but the Original words from the ancient Hebrews and Greek remains unchanged Just as God sated it would :

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever.”

Well OK! ... What is the Holy Spirit :

John 14:15
15“If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

19“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

>>>> This is why the Faithful must confess Jesus comes in the flesh-(not that Jesus is again flesh and coming(returning))

22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?”

23Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

25“These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

>>>> And There it is the Spiritual Truth, the Holy Spirit is the Helper, who is also the Spirit of Truth, who is the Spirit of Jesus sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

27Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because [h]I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.

29“And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

Yes, I work in Faithful Spirit(works) to be filled by the 'Holy Spirit', the Helper, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Jesus sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

And these works of Faith, I share/present in Spirit to you as Truths of God's Living Word, Jesus's Spiritual truth.

Of which you continue to mock and reject.

 

[Ouch]

What you are asking is a trick-question, so I will play along with your folly.

If I say - I am filled with the Holy ghost, by what authority do I have now, to make such a claim, answer : nothing, anything I try and place as evidence would be lies and deceits.

If I answer - NO , you will use that as a carnal-excuse to not listen to the messages/angels that the Holy Spirit brings to you through me.

But why should I even attempt to explain this to you, "on your own", you would not know this Spiritual Truths.

The Faithful do not proclaim, "see my faith, therefore I am of God".

The Faithful do the works of Faith, that scream(trumpets) That the messages/angels are from God and give Glory to God.

You "LOL" at the postings I shared in reply and yet you continue !?! Are you that BLIND to not SEE nor HEAR your Spirit wanting more to feast on !?!

The difference between you and I are simple:

You believe the Holy Ghost, I know the Holy Spirit and that "holy-ghost" is an errant translation through the study the Word of God, in an assembly with the Holy Spirit. <--- this is why Faithful are commanded to not forsake the assembly of ourselves with the Holy Spirit that is sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

You believe to be filled with the holy-ghost. well how is ghost defined !?!

noun. the soul of a dead person, a disembodied spirit imagined, usually as a vague, shadowy or evanescent form, as wandering among or haunting living persons.

Synonyms: spook, shade, revenant, wraith, phantasm, phantom, apparition. a mere shadow or semblance; a trace. He's a ghost of his former self.

>>>> NO, I am not filled by ; the soul of a dead person, disembodied spirit imagined, a vague, shadowy or evanescent form, wandering among or haunting, wraith, spook, shade, a mere shadow etc.

Who or what is the Holy Spirit :

Matthew 1:20

King James Bible
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

New King James Version
But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

Translations will change with the changing of the times, and with religious and political pressure on a whim, but the Original words from the ancient Hebrews and Greek remains unchanged Just as God sated it would :

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever.”

Well OK! ... What is the Holy Spirit :

John 14:15
15“If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

19“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

>>>> This is why the Faithful must confess Jesus comes in the flesh-(not that Jesus is again flesh and coming(returning))

22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?”

23Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

25“These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

>>>> And There it is the Spiritual Truth, the Holy Spirit is the Helper, who is also the Spirit of Truth, who is the Spirit of Jesus sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

27Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because [h]I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.

29“And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

Yes, I work in Faithful Spirit(works) to be filled by the 'Holy Spirit', the Helper, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Jesus sent by the Father in Jesus's name.

And these works of Faith, I share/present in Spirit to you as Truths of God's Living Word, Jesus's Spiritual truth.

Of which you continue to mock and reject.

First you say I lied, but didn't tell me where now you say I mock and reject HIS WORD?? Be great if you could back up what you said.

FYI, I didn't read all of that just the first if I say yes, or no.

It's really not hard, why can't you keep it simple???

Or is it all about deflecting??

Did you experience what the first 120 who were filled with the spirit?

FYI, this is evidence of being filled with the Holy GHost.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

It's not a trick question, if not how were you baptized?

Was you baptized at all?

JESUS said in John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Can't ENTER without both!!

 

[GWH]

***Ridicule is not the answer, .*** - oh I agree, especially the ridicule of God's Word.
I have only one question for you, before I leave you.
How did a God die ?!? -> "I ... was dead;"
If you can not discern these are Spirit-parables, then it is a telling sign you are in God's stupor, of which I am not about to try and oppose nor advocate on your behalf, you have Jesus's Spirit for that.
If you are not able to discern the Spirit of Truth in your darkness, well what more can I discuss with you, so that you may have enlightenment when you have NO OIL !?!
Understand I will not tolerate the 'carnal knowledge' you will grasp at to deceivingly explain your carnal doctrine.

God the Son was human, so He could die in order to atone for sins.

A question for you: How does God sustain creation/nature?

 

[Falconn007]

"Ouch, post: It's really not hard, why can't you keep it simple???

OK , simple it is .... You will not be able to DISCERN.

Ouch, post:Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Ouch, post:Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Ouch, post:Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Speaking in tongues is not literal jibber-jabber from out of the mouth, else they all would burn themselves :

1100 glṓssa – tongue, used of flowing speech; (figuratively) speaking, inspired by God, like the evidence of tongues-speaking supplied by the Lord in the book of Acts to demonstrate the arrival of the new age of the covenant (i.e. NT times).

[The normative experience of the 120 believers received "tongues (1100 /glṓssa) as of fire"

here is witness...

Acts 2:3
Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them.

"Ouch, post: It's not a trick question, if not how were you baptized?

With the Waters of Life = both water and Spirit

"Ouch, post: Was you baptized at all?

With the Waters of Life = both water and Spirit

"Ouch, post: JESUS said in John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

"Ouch, post: Can't ENTER without both!!

You can not SEE nor HEAR both, so what is it you are trying to intrepid ???

I believe Faithful readers of this post are done with your shenanigans.

Into the bin you go, scoot along now and go find your tongues and ghosts.

 

[Ouch]

"Ouch, post: It's really not hard, why can't you keep it simple???

OK , simple it is .... You will not be able to DISCERN.

Ouch, post:Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Ouch, post:Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Ouch, post:Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Speaking in tongues is not literal jibber-jabber from out of the mouth, else they all would burn themselves :

1100 glṓssa – tongue, used of flowing speech; (figuratively) speaking, inspired by God, like the evidence of tongues-speaking supplied by the Lord in the book of Acts to demonstrate the arrival of the new age of the covenant (i.e. NT times).

[The normative experience of the 120 believers received "tongues (1100 /glṓssa) as of fire"

here is witness...

Acts 2:3
Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them.

"Ouch, post: It's not a trick question, if not how were you baptized?

With the Waters of Life = both water and Spirit

"Ouch, post: Was you baptized at all?

With the Waters of Life = both water and Spirit

"Ouch, post: JESUS said in John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

"Ouch, post: Can't ENTER without both!!

You can not SEE nor HEAR both, so what is it you are trying to intrepid ???

I believe Faithful readers of this post are done with your shenanigans.

Into the bin you go, scoot along now and go find your tongues and ghosts.

That is what I though.

Does it make you feel better doing a lot of talking?

Just like JESUS told HIS disciples to wait and not go out, you should seek HIM and the first thing you need to do is get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of your sins.

He could fill you with HIS spirit first, but hasn't.

I bet because your a know it all and one needs to be humble.

CAN'T ENTER WITHOUT BOTH.

 

[Wansvic]

***Ridicule is not the answer, .*** - oh I agree, especially the ridicule of God's Word.

I have only one question for you, before I leave you.

How did a God die ?!? -> "I ... was dead;"

If you can not discern these are Spirit-parables, then it is a telling sign you are in God's stupor, of which I am not about to try and oppose nor advocate on your behalf, you have Jesus's Spirit for that.

If you are not able to discern the Spirit of Truth in your darkness, well what more can I discuss with you, so that you may have enlightenment when you have NO OIL !?!

Understand I will not tolerate the 'carnal knowledge' you will grasp at to deceivingly explain your carnal doctrine.

I do not mock God's word; I accept it as written.

The word “revelation” comes from the Greek word “Apocalypsis”, which means the “revealing” or the “unveiling.”
The encounter John had while in the Spirit was not a parable. John was given a vision involving past, present and future events that involve the unveiling of Jesus Christ. The other scripture references below reveal the truth as well:


"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. " 1 Tim. 3;16

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isa. 9:6


"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Rev 1:8-18

 

[Wansvic]

NOT! one scripture... gee I wonder why ?!?

AHEM ....

1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues,

7greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.

9Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whoever exalts himself will be [e]humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

13“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

15“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

16“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ 17Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold?

18And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ 19Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? 20Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.

23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of Sheol?

34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38See! Your house is left to you desolate;

39for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

>>>> HEY! Hypocrite , should I be as subtle as Jesus is Here !?!

You stated : "the Spirit does not include ridicule"

"How ridicule is defined

• Belittling language or behavior: It involves making someone or something the object of laughter and scorn.
• Malicious intent: It is often deliberate and intended to cause harm or show contempt.
• Associated with foolishness: The Bible often portrays ridicule as a foolish behavior, and describes mockers as those who seek wisdom in vain."

Jesus just broke all of your mankind's definitions, what say you NOW to Jesus !?!

I have Faith in Jesus, who did just that to show your ignorant-errors.

Here is a Truth you may want to consider, and it comes with a lot of SPIRITUAL CREDIBILITY, Jesus himself :

Luke 17:2
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

It seems the focus is on 'ridiculing' to have me banned from here, is it not ... How telling!! yeah keep grasping at your carnal straw-man.

Getting you banned was the furthest thing from my mind. If I wanted to try doing that I could have just reported your posts. My sole reason for the post was the hope you would examine your actions. Scripture reveals God expects that of everyone of us. (James 1:22-25, Lamentations 3:40) We can disagree without being disagreeable, and share the truth in love. (Eph. 4:15)