God Almighty can not be sent by anyone. If anyone is sent, He is the sender. Jesus was in heaven with the Father when he was sent by Him to become a man and die. Jesus kept on saying that he was sent by the Father to complete a mission. According to Jesus, his bread was to do the Father's will. It seems that there is someone in charge, and it's not Jesus.
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Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
John 10:30
New International Version
I and the Father are one.
Revelation 22:13-15
New International Version
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
I testify to you Jesus Christ is most definitely who he says he is and is The ONE SOVEREIGN GOD....I get fear of The Lord Just sending this to you he is so AWESOME
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
John 10:30
New International Version
I and the Father are one.
Revelation 22:13-15
New International Version
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
I testify to you Jesus Christ is most definitely who he says he is and is The ONE SOVEREIGN GOD....I get fear of The Lord Just sending this to you he is so AWESOME
The Father is a name for Yahweh, the Divine Council of Divine Persons who create and sustain all things. The father of something is the one who is responsible for its coming into being. Since Jesus was the result of the Council of Divine Persons creating a zygote inside Mary, and placing the Divine Person of the Word in that zygote, the Divine Council is Jesus of Nazareth's Father. The Divine Council sent Jesus from heaven, since his entry into human form was a joint decision by all in the Divine Council, including Jesus. (We say that the government sends the Prime Minister to represent them in an international forum, because the government organises the logistics of getting him/her there and supplies the resources involved, even though the Head of State himself makes the final decision whether he will go.) The Head of State refers to "my government" even though he is included in "his government". Jesus calls the Divine Council "My Father "even though he is a member of that Council.
You may be assuming that "Father" refers to one particular Person within the Divine Council, and this may be causing you some confusion.
God has no beginning. If Christ is the First, he is the first what? In Heb 1: 5-6, notice that the Father and Son relationship occurs twice; once in the beginning and again when the Son became human. " And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son, And again, when He bringeth in the first-begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. The first-begotten was begotten again and worshiped again when he became human. The Father has put all creation under the Son's feet and has made him Lord and God of all creation in our reality. Please explain this.
To fully DISCERN in Spirit, you must cut off and cast away all remnants of carnal knowledge form man.
Matthew 18:8-9
If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than to have two hands and two feet and be thrown into the eternal fire. / And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
Mark 9:43-47
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two hands and go into hell, into the unquenchable fire. / where ‘their worm never dies, and the fire is never quenched.’ / If your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. ...
There is an inevitable cycle of all mankind that is stagnant on it's own misinterpretations of the Word of God.
Most telling 'red flags' are when such items appear as 'subsidies' of Bible Study, that are not in line with the Spirit of Truth. Such
mundane LIES of; rapture theory, eternal hell, save always saved, faith and works, context, grammar royalties, lucifer, end time
prophesies, water baptism, last supper, ten commandments, Lord's prayer, day of the lord, creation in seven calendar 24 hr days,
adam and eve as the first people God created, paradise lost, open repentance, speaking in tongues, visiting heaven or hell, spiritual
healing, spiritual wealth prosperity, modern tithing, biblical defining women and marriage, exclusionary salvation, revelationS, the
technical mark of the beast, denominations, church doctrines, religions, world-politics, world -governance, ...etc.
These hurdles come in many forms and many definitions.
It is a surmountable feat, in overcoming these false delusional lies, that will get you through the door and on the narrow path of Spiritual growth. The 'called out and chosen few', are those, who in Faith cast away these stones that hung around their necks.
Faith is not simply "believing', it is Faithful works of Spirit that are shown approval by God Spirit.
The Faithful overcome this nonsense, to fully focus on what is Spiritual Truthful Knowledge from God Spirit.
God Spirit is indeed in control and always has been, despite what mankind has falsely replaced that Truth with.
God created satan, and controls satan.
God creates evil and controls evil.
God creates mankind and resurrects mankind at his Will.
Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
***If you do not agree with what I share, just ignore me and go on with your life.
Understanding the nature of God is not possible for us. We are created and God is the creator.
God has revealed many things to us. But not all.
But we know Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus was fully God and fully man...
As a man He submitted to the Father and He was our example.. we need to die to self and allow the Father to control us.
God has revealed many things to us. But not all.
But we know Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus was fully God and fully man...
As a man He submitted to the Father and He was our example.. we need to die to self and allow the Father to control us.
The idea of one person in charge has more of a human component. We understand the human chaos of multiple leaders. However, in heaven there is such a unity Jesus can say;
Joh_14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
We do not have a celestial organizational chart, but if we did, we might not be able to even understand it. Allowance should be made for that which we do not understand.
Joh_14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
We do not have a celestial organizational chart, but if we did, we might not be able to even understand it. Allowance should be made for that which we do not understand.
correlating to Ephesians 1:22, 23 "& hath put all things under His feet & gave Him to be the head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him, that filleth all in all".
Almost there! Our Father does not seek to "control" us; rather, He knows what is best for us and He invites us to seek and cooperate with His guidance.
Father said when Jesus was water Baptized by John the Baptist, that this is his Son, listen to him, I am pleased in Son
So Jesus went and did what he was sent here to earth to do that was to fulfill Law and the Prophets that Prophesied his coming here to earth.
Matthew 5:17, then John 19:30 Tell you, did he do it? Is it done for us are we all reconciled by Son 2 Cor 5:16-20?
So, read and listen please, then see as Father gives you to see personally too. Stop, hear, see and learn from mistakes made, not seen as sin anymore form Father's sight, thanks to son, What?????????????????????????
No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got to do it or else, right?
Go to your own closet and shut the door and leave out everything else and talk to God right there, in you private space and ask sincerely to know God. If you are sincere, you will know the truth that sets people free to do love and mercy to all too, thank you
Jesus the Son, the way, the truth for the new life of love to work though you in rellity, that no evil can overcome ever
Thank you Lord
Here is your first misunderstanding -with what your saying here -----
The Father is the God head ----Jesus is the word who lives in the Father - --the Father spoke out the Word from His mouth and Jesus who is the Word created all things --So the Father and the Word who is Jesus are one -----Jesus lives in the Father in Heaven ---
God the Father Sent the WORD to live on this earth as 100% Divine and 100% human ------so Jesus who comes from the Father is the begotten Son ------
He is the first Anointed one ---Messiah ------to be sent sent into this world ------
Lexical Summary
Christos: Christ, Anointed One, Messiah
The Word ---Jesus ---came out of the Father and so Jesus is the Son that came from the Father -----so the Father is saying ---
I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son
-Just like here on earth ---the child that the Father gives birth to -----becomes his Son ----
[QUOTE="decipher, post: 5630840, member: 331545"]The Father has put all creation under the Son's feet and has made him Lord and God of all creation in our reality. Please explain this.[/QUOTE]
I think if you do your research --this happens after His Resurrection ------
Jesus stated in Matthew 28:18 that all authority in heaven and on earth had been given to him, and the apostle Paul wrote that God "put all things under his feet" and made him "head over everything" for the church, as detailed in Ephesians 1:22-23
This authority is seen as a reward for his obedience and victory over death, a validation of his divine role in the new creation.
John 17---verse 2 explains the authority He is Given --------
The High Priestly Prayer
17 When Jesus had spoken these things, He raised His eyes to heaven [in prayer] and said, “Father, the [a]hour has come. Glorify Your Son, so that Your Son may glorify You.
2 Just as You have given Him power and authority over all mankind, [now glorify Him] so that He may give eternal life [b]to all whom You have given Him [to be His—permanently and forever].
3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true [supreme and sovereign] God, and [in the same manner know] Jesus [as the] Christ whom You have sent.
4 I have glorified You [down here] on the earth by [c]completing the work that You gave Me to do.
5 Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory and majesty that I had with You before the world existed.
there's a Christian lesson associated with this subject: "God's timing is perfect, He knows what's best for us He does what's best for us".
Agency is the key concept here.
In biblical times..the agent was 'as the man themselves '
So.. Jesus as an image of the Father, fully God..is 'as the Father'. Jesus's agency, puts Him on the same level.
This is why the Pharisees sought to stone Jesus. For making Himself equal with God.
What the Pharisees denied..and Unitarians now..as well as other religions.. is the inherent Triune nature of God, shown even in the Old Testament.
When JESUS was on this earth, he was 100% man and 100% GOD.
1 Timothy 3:16
King James Version
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
CHECK out this verse, ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN AT THE SAME TIME.
John 3:13
King James Version
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Jesus spoke often about being sent by the Father. This does not mean He is less in nature. It means He accepted the role of the obedient Son who came to do the Father’s will. In the Scriptures, being sent does not mean someone is weaker or lower in essence. It simply means they have a mission given by another. For example, in the Old Testament, God sent His prophets, yet the prophets were not less human; they simply obeyed God’s call. In the same way, Jesus said that the Father sent Him because He came to show the Father’s heart to the world, as He said in John 12:49 that He did not speak on His own but spoke what the Father commanded. Jesus chose to humble Himself and live as a man to save us, and He said in John 6:38 that He came down from heaven not to do His own will but the will of the Father. This shows great love, not weakness. Jesus said in John 10:30 that He and the Father are one. He also said in John 14:9 that whoever has seen Him has seen the Father. This means Jesus shares the same nature as the Father. When He says He is sent, He is speaking from the place of the Son who came to reveal God in a way we could see and understand. The Father is the source, and the Son shows the Father’s nature to the world. Jesus said His work was to do the Father’s will because their will is the same. There is no one above Him in nature. He simply took the place of a servant for our salvation, as He taught in Matthew 20:28 that He came to serve and give His life for many.
Blessings
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Even before he became a man he submitted to the Father because he was sent by the Father while in heaven with Him. Concerning John 1: 1, our reality is in the mind of the Father because that is how He has all those godly attributes. A God that has always existed and transcends time must must have created many realities. Ours is just one of many. In our reality He placed a being in it and called him His Son. According to Isaiah 63: 9-10, the Holy Spirit is referred to as "the angel of His presence". Angel because he can be sent, and where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is. The Holy Spirit is a portal through which the Father can enter the being indwelled in order to direct, speak through, enlighten, motivate, and empower to perform His will. When you have a vacuum with nothing in it and nothing happening, time does not exist. Time in our reality started when the Son was brought into existence because now there is a before and after him. The Father fills His Son with His Holy Spirit which means that the Father resides in His Son's being. The Father is the invisible God and the Son is the image of the invisible God in our reality because even though the Son has a different will, the Son obeys the Father. The Son is the Lord and God of our reality, but the Father is the Lord and God of all realities, including ours. In John 16: 13, John 12: 49, and John 14: 7-11, the Holy Spirit and Jesus speak the words of the Father. Jesus is in the Father because he is in the Family of the Father. The Father is in His Son because the Son is filled with the Holy Spirit of the Father (the Father's presence). We are in the Son because we are part of the Son's glorified body (the Church) who have received the Holy Spirit. When Jesus ascended back to the Father to get glorified, he received a spiritual body composed of people chosen by the Father and baptized with the Holy Spirit by the Son. When we get baptized by the Son with the Holy Spirit , we receive a portal through which the Son can enter our beings. Since the Father is in the Son, both enter our beings. Just as Christ is one with the Father because the Father is in Christ, we become one with both the Father and the Son because both are in us (those saved).
John 17: 20-23 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also who shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one, as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me. And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them, that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me. God's glory is the Father's Holy Spirit. When Jesus ascended up to heaven to get glorified by the Father, he received a glorified body that consisted of those chosen by the Father to get baptized by the Son with the Holy Spirit. The above scripture explains "Oneness". It doesn't mean the same being when Jesus said that the Father and he were one.