Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Caveman said:
you miss understood me...I do not like the Greek NT I like the Hebrew Sephardic NT that it was originally written in.

The Greek abstracts the Covenantal Faithfulness of God and puts the focus wrongly on man's Faith and his loyalty which are flimsy and unreliable; BUT The Covenantal Father is Loyal to His Covenant and He accomplished everything at the Cross alone
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Theres many forms of greek, some ready old,

Greek evolved in to Latin, known as the language of romance,

But I say anyone can be romantic with there language, what appeals to people is the sound of there own voice sometimes,

But man will think what there doing is right in there eyes, God will ponder there heart, it means God will flood there heart.

And whilst that is happening real beauty will be heard ☺️

But it sounds like you don't see strengthening as gardening the heart. So the lord is the vine who is the gardener to.

He made my head as solid as a rock 🤩 and he strengthened it that much it got to hard to break.
 
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Jordon said:
Theres many forms of greek, some ready old,

Greek evolved in to Latin, known as the language of romance,

But I say anyone can be romantic with there language, what appeals to people is the sound of there own voice sometimes,

But man will think what there doing is right in there eyes, God will ponder there heart, it means God will flood there heart.

And whilst that is happening real beauty will be heard ☺️

But it sounds like you don't see strengthening as gardening the heart. So the lord is the vine who is the gardener to.

He made my head as solid as a rock 🤩 and he strengthened it that much it got to hard to break.
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HEY...we have another agreement about the heart and God the vinedresser; and men like the sound of their own wind :)
 
Caveman said:
HEY...we have another agreement about the heart and God the vinedresser; and men like the sound of their own wind :)
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lol I'm not sure I do unless it's long winded 🤩

But what do you not like about the king James anyhow
 
Jordon said:
lol I'm not sure I do unless it's long winded 🤩

But what do you not like about the king James anyhow
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King James likely is the best English translation and since I need to read the Word in English it is better than the rest; but I like Hebrew becasue I belive the NT was written in Hebrew and then translated into other languages. The Hebrew conveys Gods Hebraic thought in a way that the Greek obstructs and morphs into contractual concepts whereas the Hebrew is writtn in terms of His Covenantal Faithfulness...focus on God and not on man like the Greek does.
 
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Caveman said:
King James likely is the best English translation and since I need to read the Word in English it is better than the rest; but I like Hebrew becasue I belive the NT was written in Hebrew and then translated into other languages. The Hebrew conveys Gods Hebraic thought in a way that the Greek obstructs and morphs into contractual concepts whereas the Hebrew is writtn in terms of His Covenantal Faithfulness...focus on God and not on man like the Greek does.
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Hebraic means there language of culture or beliefs behaviours etc doesn't it.

How could that be different to the king James.

What's an example
 
GWH said:
Pro. 21:1 – In order not to make God responsible for the sins cited in the rest of the chapter,
this verse must mean that the “king’s heart” or will is choosing to cooperate with the Lord’s “hand” or directions.
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And the kings heart your refering to is the one that's enabled ☺️
 
GWH said:
Pro. 21:1 – In order not to make God responsible for the sins cited in the rest of the chapter,
this verse must mean that the “king’s heart” or will is choosing to cooperate with the Lord’s “hand” or directions.
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do you believe the Judges were chosen kings to carry great authority of delivering Gods word that make people tremble with fear ?
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
The LXX actually does have primacy over the Masoretic Text in certain verses. As one example, more OT quotations in the NT match the LXX rather than the MT. The LXX was created by Jews in Alexandria for Jews living in a Greek world who didn't know Hebrew.
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Rabbi Akiva created the Masoretic at around 100AD.
Definitely has been altered.

 
Caveman said:
Right...you say that because you have investigated it to know you are correct...not!

You hold then to your scholarly consensus, doctrine of men and your Greeky NT that the focus is all about you and your faithfulness to enter into the salvation of God; and I will rest in His Salvation that He gifted me via the Atonement.

I know you must believe (your faith, your belief, and loyalty) to receive His Justification...that's what your Greek tells you...Even in the Greek He says that the Atonement was gifted to all ungodly men and that HE will glorify all those He Justified.

What do you do with that?

Ignore it or defer to your doctrine of men...tell me what your denomination says you must do in order to be saved?

Forget it, it's Greeky fringe and weird; and too foolish a waste of time to follow the lead of anyone that can't even concede what the plain text that says He died for the ungodly. Greek and the doctrine of men love to insert qualifiers so they can have their participation in their salvation...
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This is just the latest twist of the gnostic idea that no obedience on our part is required to be saved.
 
cv5 said:
Rabbi Akiva created the Masoretic at around 100AD.
Definitely has been altered.
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He may have began work on the Masoretic Text in the 2nd century AD, but it wasn't completed until the 10th century AD. Yes it definitely was altered in places to conform with rabbinic tradition
 
Caveman said:
King James likely is the best English translation and since I need to read the Word in English it is better than the rest; but I like Hebrew becasue I belive the NT was written in Hebrew and then translated into other languages. The Hebrew conveys Gods Hebraic thought in a way that the Greek obstructs and morphs into contractual concepts whereas the Hebrew is writtn in terms of His Covenantal Faithfulness...focus on God and not on man like the Greek does.
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Known to be false beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
Blue155 said:
@cv5, Frank Turek stated that Calvinism is false and it tragically makes God the author of evil, but then in another video he states he doesn’t think Calvinism is heresy. Talk about talking out of both sides of his mouth!!
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Frank Turek has turned out to be a huge disappointment, and that is all I am going to say about that.
 
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Jordon said:
Sir listen please.

Each plague God Stopped was the hardening influence the false Gods had over Pharaohs heart.

Like the false God couldn't control plagues and stop them each time they released one.

So each time the lord released one and stopped them, it would weaken the influencing power the false Gods had over the pharaoh heart.

Eventually the pharaoh bowed down.

Each false God has different sorceries
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Give up Jordon, cave men can't see the light!
 
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