Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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We are living in a time when gaslighting is at its finest. New York has been gaslit into accepting a Muslim mayor, where Muslim rallies take place openly in public. Socialism and Communism, or free stuff, sound appealing to the educated elite who have been disillusioned into thinking they would be successful by their Left radical schooling that lied to them. While we live in a country of freedom of religion, when a partícular violent religion starts to overtake a large city is very scary.



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Any time you want to properly explain 2 Thessalonians 2:10, and Jonah chapter 3, I am all ears.
But we both know you will not really do that because these passages refute the Calvinist or Anti-Free Will beliefs.
It says they did not receive something that is necessary for salvation. I have answered this already mister deceiver.

Who gives that which is necessary? Here's a clue for you (more than one, actually):

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The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
Remember, we have to accept the whole Bible and not just parts that we think we like to hear or to see from our own slanted view.
 
It says they did not receive something that is necessary for salvation. I have answered this already mister deceiver.

Who gives that which is necessary? Here's a clue for you (more than one, actually):

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The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.

What's happening here?
 
before the foundations of the world everything existed

But no job did not exist before Adam and eve, but it could be decree that i could say that if my father is of the devil, I will put scripture back to front but I won't. And if I do say it I will be humbled. And if get humble I will not say it again

But satan was called Lucifer at first

And theres no mention of Lucifer in the Adam and eve story

And nothing wicked can enter heaven once cast down there one

Which means Santan can refer to being evil

In my view for what it's worth job was starting of Lucifer becoming satan.

Lucifer may well of been getting tested
This post is very coherent it says this @Bible_Highlighter

It's says I don't know if satan was in the garden of eden

And it says all sinners will exalt themselves.

And it says the holy spirit will convict the world of sin.

Which means all sinners will be humbled. But will they ?

And @OLDBUTNEW understood that from a previous post.

But the fact your answering this question, that you see this as incoherent without even asking me to explain says this, Well that just shows your incoherent ways to be ignorant sir.

Because it's your way or the highway like mr high and mighty @Genez and @cv5


Well bye bye sir

Speak to you soon if your not deaf

And the last thing is, the fact that you want to make me look bad for ,poor grammar just says this.

I enjoy ripping posts apart and not answering to any truth in the post.

As that's what all incoherent people do, who won't accept what someone is asking and saying.

And look for a bit of fault in the post to gas light with
 
Jesus says the greatest among you serves.
Then again, you would know this if you read and believed all of Scripture.




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So...I answered your question a little after you asked. You missed it and tell me to go get it and repost it and maybe you will answer. Hmmmm. Then regale me for something you are guilty of. Hmmmm.
 
It says they did not receive something that is necessary for salvation. I have answered this already mister deceiver.

Who gives that which is necessary? Here's a clue for you (more than one, actually):
sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.

Is that what 2 Thessalonians 2:10 says?
It says they received not the love of the truth that they MIGHT be saved.
So they can be saved, but they are the ones choosing to not be saved.
Read it again in the King James Bible.



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So...I answered your question a little after you asked. You missed it and tell me to go get it and repost it and maybe you will answer. Hmmmm. Then regale me for something you are guilty of. Hmmmm.

I am saying Jesus says the greatest among you serves. Instead of helping me to see what you believe (which is service of others), you just double down in that you are right and superior. So you are above Jesus' words. How wonderful for you.

Enjoy your rebellion against the Lord our God.
Of course, I hope and pray you will change.



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Is that what 2 Thessalonians 2:10 says?
It says they received not the love of the truth that they MIGHT be saved.
So they can be saved, but they are the ones choosing to not be saved.
Read it again in the King James Bible.
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Your assumptions are unfounded. I did read it in the KJV knowing that is your cult.

Who is the Giver of all good things?

Why will you not answer that question?

Salvation is by the will of God. This too is explicitly articulated.

Salvation is not by the will of man. This too is explicitly articulated.

The flesh cannot please God. This too is explicitly articulated.

Even you claim there are those who cannot be saved but then like all those in error you contradict yourself.
 
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Is that what 2 Thessalonians 2:10 says?
It says they received not the love of the truth that they MIGHT be saved.
So they can be saved, but they are the ones choosing to not be saved.
Read it again in the King James Bible.



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I suggest you take dark Scripture to the lord
 
Mr Biblehighlighter, what's your inquiry?

No Calvinist has ever been able to explain 2 Thessalonians 2:10 and Jonah chapter 3 with any kind of rational sense that does justice to what these passages actually say. They have to ignore the plain reading of Scripture.

So my question is: Dear Calvinists and Anti-Free Will proponents, can you explain how your theology works in light of the plain reading of 2 Thessalonians 2:10, and Jonah chapter 3?



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They have to ignore the plain reading of Scripture.
All y'all FWers ignore the plain teaching of Scripture in a plethora of ways.

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"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." John 6 verse 44 The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2 verse 14 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 verse 7-8
 
No Calvinist has ever been able to explain 2 Thessalonians 2:10 and Jonah chapter 3 with any kind of rational sense that does justice to what these passages actually say. They have to ignore the plain reading of Scripture.

So my question is: Dear Calvinists and Anti-Free Will proponents, can you explain how your theology works in light of the plain reading of 2 Thessalonians 2:10, and Jonah chapter 3?



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I suggest you take it to lord and give us your explanation if you really want to discuss it
 
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1 Cor ch 2 v 14 is the FWers fave verse to ignore, contradict, rewrite etc. They claim it does not mean what is says.

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The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians ch 2 v 14
 
Your assumptions are unfounded. I did read it in the KJV knowing that is your cult.

Interesting. If we were to take a Time Machine before Westcott and Hort's 1881 Modern Bible Movement started, the only Bible that was authoritative to most English-speaking people all over the world was the King James Bible. Would you claim they were in a cult for believing the one most influential and accurate Bible for hundreds of years?

Are you even aware that Westcott and Hort fellowshipped with a Unitarian named George Vance Smith, who was on their committee for the English Revised Version? Vance said that theological doctrine had been changed in their new translation in a book he had written after the ERV came out.

You said:
Who is the Giver of all good things?
You said:
Why will you not answer that question?

Salvation is by the will of God. This too is explicitly articulated.

Salvation is not by the will of man. This too is explicitly articulated.

The flesh cannot please God. This too is explicitly articulated.

Even you claim there are those who cannot be saved but then like all those in error you contradict yourself.

I have no problem with the verses you allude to here. I believe them just fine, and I can explain them easily.
Feel free to ask me how they work in my belief, and I will do so with Scripture.
This cannot be said for your belief involving 2 Thessalonians 2:10, and Jonah chapter 3, though.





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I am saying Jesus says the greatest among you serves. Instead of helping me to see what you believe (which is service of others), you just double down in that you are right and superior. So you are above Jesus' words. How wonderful for you.

Enjoy your rebellion against the Lord our God.
Of course, I hope and pray you will change.



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More imagination. I never hinted I was right or superior. Neither do I claim to be above the word of God. I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy of accusing me of the very thing you were doing. Then you characterized my behavior as rebellious, yet can't see around the beam in your eye.
Grace and peace.