Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Blue155
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but all hearts need saving. So are you saying God is good to all the hearts or only those who He saves?
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Blue155
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Blue155
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No. I fear he would request that I would be burned at the stake, just like Servetus was in 1533.
Don't know about that but I believe magenta studied that to see if was true and I don't think it's what Calvin wanted.
Can't see it as he taught people to have compassion for people
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Blue155
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Here's the deal. This is why people do not want to believe that they are wrong doctrinally and theologically. One, they don't want to believe that they're not saved, because most of these people believe they are. So if they admit that they are believing something that is false doctrine, they would have to admit that they're actually lost and were never saved.
Number two, the reason why they don't want to believe that is because they may have had dear friends or loved ones to die believing the false doctrine that they believe.
Number Three, if they admit that what they believe is false and is essential to cast it away, then that means they would feel like they're condemning their family or friends who believed in what they now know as false doctrine.
Number four, maybe they've had a dear and good friend to teach them, and they take everything that he or she says as the truth. And yet, their teacher says that Calvinism is true, so that would mean that everything that they've been taught by whoever, was not teaching the truth and was teaching falsely. They don't want to think or admit that they've been duped, that they've been conned, that they've been lied to.
And lastly, it is the fact that people are blinded by pride, misplaced loyalty, emotion and fear.
These are the plainest and simplest reasons right there.
Number two, the reason why they don't want to believe that is because they may have had dear friends or loved ones to die believing the false doctrine that they believe.
Number Three, if they admit that what they believe is false and is essential to cast it away, then that means they would feel like they're condemning their family or friends who believed in what they now know as false doctrine.
Number four, maybe they've had a dear and good friend to teach them, and they take everything that he or she says as the truth. And yet, their teacher says that Calvinism is true, so that would mean that everything that they've been taught by whoever, was not teaching the truth and was teaching falsely. They don't want to think or admit that they've been duped, that they've been conned, that they've been lied to.
And lastly, it is the fact that people are blinded by pride, misplaced loyalty, emotion and fear.
These are the plainest and simplest reasons right there.
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Blue155
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ok thanks buddy your post needs careful deliberation.
Would you mind if I take it to the lord
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OLDBUTNEW
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@Blue155 : Oh, dear! I was hoping you wouldn't ask!
Would we still be friends if I told you that I'm a non-free willer now?!
Romans 1 - 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise!f Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31 They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise!f Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31 They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.
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All believers TITLES begin with being written in the book.
The word 'name' and "title" were interchangeable to the Greek-speaking people in that day.
Here is an example of what I just said.
On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16
Note!It says, "he has this name written? Right?
But, that is a title, not an actual name.
We will not have our actual names blotted out who fail to mature in Christ.
Instead?
It will be our 'title' blotted out that we would have been knighted with by the Lord,
if we had persevered in growing in grace and knowledge to full maturity in Christ.
In Christ.... grace and peace.
Overcomers break free from endlessly regurgitating bogus Calvinist dogma and come to realize Biblical truth. And likewise realize the beauty of it and the sinister origin and nature of the counterfeit.
That being said, deepest condolences for your sad predicament....
