No, the trinity was started by the forerunners of the catholic church in the year 325. It's not bible, back then if you didn't obey them they killed you.
There is ONLY ONE GOD, HIS name is JESUS.
At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?
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No, the trinity was started by the forerunners of the catholic church in the year 325. It's not bible, back then if you didn't obey them they killed you.
There is ONLY ONE GOD, HIS name is JESUS.
Don't let Ouch fool you!
FYI, I'm not here to fool people.
I only share HIS WORD.
Why are you obsessed on denominations?
How about sticking to HIS WORD???
Since you can't accept the FACT that you could possibly be wrong you go down a different rabbit trail. DEFLECTION.
Have I ever asked ANYONE what church they go to???
Nope, I can tell if their not following JESUS and HIS rule book, their going to a man-made church denomination which one doesn't matter. Maybe they don't go to any?
Man-made churches are ones that the leaders go to college to become a pastor.
JESUS disciple's churches are the ones who JESUS teaches through the Holy Ghost.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST SINCE YOU HAVE BELIEVED????
HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED????
Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
I have an idea, read HIS word, word for word and let JESUS talk to you.
WHO ARE YOU FOLLOWING???
HIS WORD, OR MAN????
GOD BLESS YOU IN YOUR WALK.
I do agree with mail man guy, don't let anyone fool you.
Looks like if he has a fight with his wife he runs to the neighbors house for back up!
Follow JESUS only.
If you didn't notice the mail man attacks me for sharing HIS word.
Since he can't accept he's wrong and debate GOD'S word he runs to others like yourself pointing his finger at me to be accepted.
We are suppose to love one and the other, this is a Christian Chat form if any of us fall we are suppose to pick them up.
That is why HIS word says, 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
It's our job when someone says something to check what they say with HIS word if it don't line up correct or run.
Have I said anything that goes against HIS word?
If I did PLEASE tell me, I am not perfect but humble since none of us will know it all.
My main focus is getting people to see how to be reborn, they we could speak of what color the trees are.
Don't follow any man including me, I'm not the one who died for you.
Satan's plan keep them out of the water, if they get in the water keep JESUS name out of it.
As you can see it's working.
Your walk is between you and JESUS lone, HE will be the one judging you with HIS rule book.
GOD BLESS YOU.
Nice try. The remission of sins has three applications: 1. Literally, by the blood of Christ - Matthew 26:28 2. Experientially, by faith in Christ - Acts 26:18 3. Figuratively, by water baptism - Acts 22:16.
Yes, believers are baptized in the name of [by the authority] of Jesus Christ. It's faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) that brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18) *Perfect Harmony*
Water baptism is not even a part of the gospel. (Acts 15:7-9; Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 1:17; 15:1-4) We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel (Romans 10:16) by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
The language in Acts 22:16 is similar to the statement of Christ when He took the bread and said, "This is my body." (Matthew 26:26) The bread was only the emblem of His body. Baptism is the emblem of the washing away of sins by the blood of Christ. Every time a believer is immersed, he washes away his sins in the same sense Paul did: not literally, but figuratively, pointing to the blood of Christ by which sins are actually washed away. (Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14; 1 John 1:7; Revelation 1:5)
Excellent article on Acts 22:16 - WHAT IS TRUTH: Acts 22:16--Baptism Essential for Salvation?
Paul had already believed in Christ when Ananias came to pray for him to receive his sight (Acts 9:17). It also should be noted that Paul at the time when Ananias prayed for him to receive his sight, he was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17)--this was BEFORE he was water baptized. (Acts 9:18) Verse 17 connects his being filled with the Spirit with the receiving of his sight. We know that he received his sight prior to his baptism.
It's interesting that when Paul recounted this event again later in Acts (Acts 26:12-18), he did not mention Ananias or what Ananias said to him at all. Verse 18 again would confirm the idea that Paul received Christ as Savior on the road to Damascus since here Christ is telling Paul he will be a messenger for Him concerning forgiveness of sins for Gentiles as they have faith in Him. It would seem unlikely that Christ would commission Paul if Paul had not yet believed in Him and was still lost in his sins.
He is taking what is invisible and making it visible to us.
Done in a manner that we understand and will relate to.
In other words?
God's nature is foreign to our nature.
To make us able to understand God?
Jesus exegetes God for us, like a qualified mature pastor will exegete the Scriptures for us, from the original languages,
which we could not normally understand.
John 1:18 - as translated by the Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God,
Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him
and He has made Him known].
Note!
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him
and He has made Him known].
grace and peace ..........
Story time for those who follow man not HIS word.
"Paul had already believed in Christ when Ananias came to pray for him to receive his sight (Acts 9:17). It also should be noted that Paul at the time when Ananias prayed for him to receive his sight, he was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17)--this was BEFORE he was water baptized. (Acts 9:18) Verse 17 connects his being filled with the Spirit with the receiving of his sight. We know that he received his sight prior to his baptism.
It's interesting that when Paul recounted this event again later in Acts (Acts 26:12-18), he did not mention Ananias or what Ananias said to him at all. Verse 18 again would confirm the idea that Paul received Christ as Savior on the road to Damascus since here Christ is telling Paul he will be a messenger for Him concerning forgiveness of sins for Gentiles as they have faith in Him. It would seem unlikely that Christ would commission Paul if Paul had not yet believed in Him and was still lost in his sins."
The ONLY reason Paul believed on HIM was because JESUS spoke to him from above and made him blind. Bet that opened his eyes!!!
Who speaks from Heaven where men can hear HIS, yep JESUS.
You really need to read Acts 9:17 again, verse 17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
Ananias came in the room, put his hands on Paul and said, JESUS hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
NOTICE, HE TOLD HIM WHY HE WAS THERE, NOTHING ABOUT PAUL RECEIVEING THE HOLY GHOST.
Why do you say Paul received Christ as savior on the road?
Where is that in HIS word?
What does that even mean?
Why do you say that Paul was being sent to the gentiles because they had faith in him?
Did you know JESUS had plans for Paul to preach to the gentiles, and the Jews?
Sharing in ignorance.
We see through you.
You only share the Word in darkness, not light.
It is nothing that God could not solve.
If you were not so stubborn and stuck on yourself.
You do not know how to listen...
You don't have to see through me, I don't hide anything.
I'm open, what did I share that was incorrect???
Don't just tell me I'm wrong, show me where I'm wrong.
Was it a specific verse or verses I shared?
After seeing how you deflected off others who attempted to correct you?
I wish not to waste my time.
You need a rude awakening....
God must do it.
I didn't deflect anything and mail man guy tried to correct me with his opinion not GOD'S word.
I don't bow down to men.
Tell me how I deflected?
You said you can see right through me, YOU DON'T KNOW ME AT ALL.
Sure have and apologized for being wrong.
I have met on CC people are as hard as a rock and will not bend even proving they are wrong with HIS WORD.
What good are we if we are not humble and can't accept correction.
None of us know it all and never will.
So if your accusing me of something explain what was said and what I did that you don't like.
How can I be corrected if I have NO IDEA what you're saying I did?
What was he trying teaching me?
And AGAIN, how did I deflect?
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So you tell me I was wrong about something.
I ask you to tell me what it was, and NOTHING.
What is your game?
If I did something wrong then tell me what it was.
Or don't say nothing at all, I'm not here to play games.
You have posted some WAY OUT THERE junk that when I challenge you with it NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL.
For instance you said spirit baptism replace water baptism.
Do you know we will be held responsible for EVERY WORD OUT OF OUR MOUTH?
Have YOU been filled with the Holy Ghost since you have believed?
HOW were YOU baptized??
So now you see why people don't like me, I keep it real.
I share HIS word only, letting JESUS do the talking and call people who lie about HIS word a liar.
You said spirit baptism replaced water baptism which is a lie from Satan.
You also made statement which I have no idea what you were saying sure wasn't from HIS word and you never cleaned it up.
I guess it was just story time??
Then you CLAIM I don't have the ability to accept others correcting me and deflecting when I'm wrong.
When I humbly ask you to tell me what I did wrong, YOU DEFLECT.
You told me, you can see right through me.
Now after asking questions I can see what your all about no guesswork.
I'm here to help people see HIS word and get reborn.
I asked you have you got the Holy Ghost since you have believed and how were you baptized?
I get that from Paul in Acts 19,
1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
I ask you questions and NO REPLY AT ALL.
It's ok, lying is a forgivebe sin.
How to be reborn,
Believe, Repent, get Baptized in JESUS name for remission of sins and pray for JESUS to fill you with HIS spirit like HE did HIS disciples in . John 3:5, Acts 2:38.
JESUS speaking.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
What happens when you are filled with the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Peter confirming, what happens when you are filled with the Holy Ghost
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
The first message JESUS promised to be preached.
Acts 2,
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
JESUS speaking.
Mark 16,
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
I will go now, didn't what your blood on my hands, you have been told what we much do to be reborn.
My mission is done, seeds have been planted.
You are more than welcome to have the last word, if I'm wrong just tell me, I'm humble and teachable.
The blood of Christ is applied at the moment a person genuinely places their faith in Him, trusting in His sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. Scripture teaches that salvation is a work of God’s grace, received through faith, and it is at that point of belief that Christ’s atoning blood cleanses us and makes us spiritually new.