Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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you know my Aussie legend trying to gain favour with free will is like saying im a pommie twit 🤩

@Jordon : You definitely are a Pommie Twit! There's no doubt about that! And you're a nuisance, just like most of the Pommies who come here to Australia to live!
 
Both sides cannot be right when it comes to very important matters. So either I’m right and saved, or I’m lost and damned. Or, either the other side is right and saved, or are lost and damned. No middle ground.
oh so your not here for a giggle then, oops my bad I must be blind, it's funny thing tho when somebody laughs at being called false its normally means they think it's funny to call someone else false,.


The other funny thing is your lack of conviction
 
Both sides cannot be right when it comes to very important matters. So either I’m right and saved, or I’m lost and damned. Or, either the other side is right and saved, or are lost and damned. No middle ground.
You are right when you get right with God


Funny thing is tho God is not a racist
 
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1 Samuel 2 v 7-9 ~ The LORD sends poverty and wealth; He humbles and He exalts. He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap. He seats them among princes and bestows on them a throne of honor. For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s, and upon them He has set the world. He guards the steps of His faithful ones, but the wicked perish in darkness; for by his own strength shall no man prevail.
 
God draws all men.


The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness
and wickedness of men, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since
what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it
plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—
his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood
from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20​
God sends in missionaries where he finds positive volition.
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I read a book a very long time ago, I think it was called "Eternity in their Hearts", or something like that. It recounted true stories of missionaries who went into places where the Gospel had not been preached and yet in many of those places they had been waiting for (generations in some instances) the "man who was to come and tell them about the way".

It was fascinating and a testament to the fidelty of God that He indeed so loved the world He created that He refuses to leave it to it's own devices and to His grace and mercy on all men.
 
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The revelation of God through creation and conscience is not God drawing an individual.

When God is drawing someone, there is revelation of the person of Jesus as the Christ given. See Matthew 16: 15-18. And that's how the church is built.

In salvation, God isn't responding to the individual; the individual is responding to God.

Yes it is. It is God who manifests the truth in them that there is One who is all powerful and uncreated.

Rom.1:19
19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
 
Yes it is. It is God who manifests the truth in them that there is One who is all powerful and uncreated.

Rom.1:19
19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
God has shown them through creation. It is revelation through the things that are seen. It is not revelation of the person of Christ by the Father.

Revelation of the things of God...the invisible things and the Godhead...are insufficient for salvation anyway.

Jesus is building His church through the revelation of the Father of the person of Jesus as Messiah.
 
It's time to end the discussion when the same topic has been covered two times without any progress.

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject (Titus 3:10)
 
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Thanks Genez

What's good there?

A good place to start might be the 1969 Basics series.

100 Introduction to Basics (1969) 1–2 hours teaching.
102 Basics (1969) 1–84 hours of teaching.

I would skip the 1961 basics for now.

We need to learn his technical vocabulary as we go along.
 
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@Jordon : You definitely are a Pommie Twit! There's no doubt about that! And you're a nuisance, just like most of the Pommies who come here to Australia to live!
Your comment is a typical comment from someone who is a racist half witt who's still controlled by there free will.

Do you like hurting people dose it make you feel good