Salvation: A doctrinal dilemma

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Plug this into your AI program. See what it gets you.

“Have I been using AI to get in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
Did you get this from your use of Ai?
 
Plug this into your AI program. See what it gets you.

“Have I been using AI to get in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
A lot of your oneness, jesus only, baptismal regeneration heresy posts seem like they are Ai generated.
 
Did you get this from your use of Ai?
No, but even if I did (which I didn’t) how come you don’t want to do anything plug this into your AI program to see what it gets you?

“Have I been using AI to get in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
 
@Blue155
Maybe set the AI accusations aside for once and focus on defending your position with Scripture instead.

Every time the discussion starts leaning toward the Word itself, you shift back to speculation about who’s using what tool. That’s not discernment — that’s distraction.

If your view is truly biblical, it should stand on the text alone.

Grace and peace.
 
No, but even if I did (which I didn’t) how come you don’t want to do anything plug this into your AI program to see what it gets you?

“Have I been using AI to get in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
This is another circular “AI fixation” reply from Blue155. He’s not defending doctrine or engaging Scripture; he’s trying to justify his repeated AI accusations while deflecting from the actual biblical issue.
You’ve spent more time talking about AI than the actual passages being discussed.
If your interpretation stands, defend it with Scripture — not speculation about who’s using what.
The Word of God doesn’t need digital help, but it does require honesty with the text.
Grace and peace.
 
Grace through faith saves — baptism declares it.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.”Ephesians 2:8 KJV

Most impressive, LightBearer316. However, not sure whom you perceive the "faith" in Eph 2:8 to belong to. I would respectfully suggest since the core of that verse is salvation through grace, given that Christ alone is the Savior, and given that all aspects pertaining to
salvation are gifts from God, then the faith that brought forth the grace, must be the faith of Christ and not man's, otherwise, grace and salvation wouldn't be gifts
 
Most impressive, LightBearer316. However, not sure whom you perceive the "faith" in Eph 2:8 to belong to. I would respectfully suggest since the core of that verse is salvation, given that Christ alone is the Savior, and given that all aspects pertaining to
salvation are gifts from God, then the faith that brought forth the grace, must be the faith of Christ and not man's, otherwise, grace and salvation wouldn't be gifts

I appreciate that insight, Roger that’s a thoughtful observation.

The “faith of Christ” vs. “faith in Christ” question is a meaningful one, since Scripture uses both concepts. However, in Ephesians 2:8–9 KJV, the grammar points to the believer’s faith as the instrument by which God’s grace is received; “through faith”

The passage teaches that salvation is by grace, and the means of receiving that grace is faith — but even that faith isn’t self-produced. It’s God-enabled. The entire process — grace, faith, and salvation — is “not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.”

Paul beautifully balances God’s initiative and man’s response: the source is divine, the reception is personal, and the glory belongs entirely to Christ.

Grace and peace
 
@Blue155
Maybe set the AI accusations aside for once and focus on defending your position with Scripture instead.

Every time the discussion starts leaning toward the Word itself, you shift back to speculation about who’s using what tool. That’s not discernment — that’s distraction.

If your view is truly biblical, it should stand on the text alone.

Grace and peace.
Accusing others by telling them to be doing from the scriptures what you yourself cannot do from the scriptures is perfectly fine with me.
 
Accusing others by telling them to be doing from the scriptures what you yourself cannot do from the scriptures is perfectly fine with me.
You’re free to think that, but my posts have consistently stayed centered on Scripture; yours haven’t.

The challenge still stands: defend your position with the Word itself instead of turning every thread into an argument about people or using AI.

If what you believe is truly biblical, then Scripture alone should be enough to prove it.

Grace and peace.
 
@LightBearer316, I think you are too dependent on using AI to tell me I’m too dependent on AI. Perhaps if you weren’t using it the way you have been, you wouldn’t be saying the things you are about me, but such is the case from one who accuses others of doing the same as them, which is using AI. It’s not originality in wanting to be fixating on using my own hunches against you. I would recommend not using AI the way you are. Perhaps if you weren’t so reliable on it, you’d not be accusing me of it.
 
@LightBearer316, I think you are too dependent on using AI to tell me I’m too dependent on AI. Perhaps if you weren’t using it the way you have been, you wouldn’t be saying the things you are about me, but such is the case from one who accuses others of doing the same as them, which is using AI. It’s not originality in wanting to be fixating on using my own hunches against you. I would recommend not using AI the way you are. Perhaps if you weren’t so reliable on it, you’d not be accusing me of it.
You’ve now spent multiple posts repeating the same accusation instead of defending your position with Scripture.

I’m content to stay focused on the Word — you can keep focusing on assumptions if you’d like.

But the text stands on its own.

Grace and peace.
 
Post #170 above disputes that statement. Perhaps if you were not so dependent on Ai you could keep your facts straight.
Please prove I believe what you said I do. Perhaps if you weren’t using AI, you’d be able to.

Plug this in your AI program: Am I using AI to get responses in the way I am?
 
@LightBearer316, why won’t you plug this in your AI program? Is there a reason you do not want to? Here, let me tell you once more: Copy and paste the following in the AI format that you have been using.

“Have I been using AI to get in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
 
Please prove I believe what you said I do. Perhaps if you weren’t using AI, you’d be able to.

Plug this in your AI program: Am I using AI to get responses in the way I am?

You keep asking for proof, but the proof is in post #170
  • In post #170, the entire reply was built on Scripture — Acts 10:43–47 KJV, Titus 3:5 KJV, Ephesians 5:26 KJV, 1 Peter 3:21 KJV, and Ephesians 2:8–9 KJV. That’s direct textual analysis, not AI speculation.
  • Your responses since then have avoided every verse and focused instead on accusing me of using AI. The screenshots show a clear pattern: the more Scripture is presented, the more you deflect.
If your goal were really the truth of God’s Word, you’d be addressing the passages themselves — not screenshots, not speculation, not personalities.

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV

Grace and peace
 
You keep asking for proof, but the proof is in post #170
  • In post #170, the entire reply was built on Scripture — Acts 10:43–47 KJV, Titus 3:5 KJV, Ephesians 5:26 KJV, 1 Peter 3:21 KJV, and Ephesians 2:8–9 KJV. That’s direct textual analysis, not AI speculation.
  • Your responses since then have avoided every verse and focused instead on accusing me of using AI. The screenshots show a clear pattern: the more Scripture is presented, the more you deflect.
If your goal were really the truth of God’s Word, you’d be addressing the passages themselves — not screenshots, not speculation, not personalities.

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV

Grace and peace
Post this in your AI program:

“Have I been using AI in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s response?”
 
Blue155 isn’t actually engaging my scriptural content at all. He’s doubling down on the same circular accusation (“plug this into your AI program”) instead of addressing Acts 10:43–47, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, or Ephesians 2:8–9 — the heart of the discussion.

At this point, it’s clear you have no interest in the Scriptures themselves. Every time verses are brought up, you turn back to AI accusations instead of responding to what the Word says.
I’ll keep standing on Scripture — you can keep speculating if you’d like. But I’m done going in circles.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword…” — Hebrews 4:12 KJV

You have lost all credibility on this forum.

Grace and peace.
 
Blue155 isn’t actually engaging my scriptural content at all. He’s doubling down on the same circular accusation (“plug this into your AI program”) instead of addressing Acts 10:43–47, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, or Ephesians 2:8–9 — the heart of the discussion.

At this point, it’s clear you have no interest in the Scriptures themselves. Every time verses are brought up, you turn back to AI accusations instead of responding to what the Word says.
I’ll keep standing on Scripture — you can keep speculating if you’d like. But I’m done going in circles.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword…” — Hebrews 4:12 KJV

You have lost all credibility on this forum.

Grace and peace.
Would you like to post this in your AI format? Or are you afraid you will lose credibility, so you are trying to save face by accusing someone else of using it.

Go on..plug this in your program: “Have I been using AI in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, just so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s responses?”
 
Would you like to post this in your AI format? Or are you afraid you will lose credibility, so you are trying to save face by accusing someone else of using it.

Go on..plug this in your program: “Have I been using AI in an irresponsible way to get responses, formulate arguments, just so I can simply respond or reply to posts, instead of using it responsibly? Have I been using AI in a manner that simply submits another’s post, then copies and pastes what AI has given me without even attempting to understand the others position, as well as even trying to understand AI’s responses?”
You are just trolling at this point. You have lost all credibility on this forum.

Grace and Peace