Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

[SomeDisciple]

Why Did TPUSA Cancel Charlie Kirk’s Audit? Donors are P*SSED and They Want Answers | Redacted News

8 days before the assassination Charlie wanted to do an audit because he suspected embezzlement and fraud. However, after the assassination the audit was cancelled.

So, I don't know anything about the reliability of Stew Peters; but he just put out that TPUSA is now taking money from donors that CK previously rejected because he didn't want their influence in the organization. If this turns out to be true, then I think that 99.999% tells us everything we need to know.

 

[ZNP]

Charlie Kirk’s Sister FINALLY Breaks Silence On Erika — “He Had No Idea!”

Turns out a lot of people close to this including both family and people in TPUSA have issues, questions, and concerns about Erika.

 

[ZNP]

Charlie Kirk’s Sister FINALLY Breaks Silence On Erika — “He Had No Idea!”

Turns out a lot of people close to this including both family and people in TPUSA have issues, questions, and concerns about Erika.

There is no proof provided in this link that would confirm that Erika is a "Delilah" figure. All they really have is people close to Erika whether in TPUSA or in Charlie Kirk's family who felt something was off about her, not trusting her, seeing her as manipulative, and even Charlie's family refused to attend the memorial service. They also reference Charlie himself feeling manipulated by some of the donors.

So then I would ask the Lord to help us clear up the confusion surrounding this assassination. We pray that any deaf and dumb spirit infecting those who know what took place would be cast out to never return and may the things that were done in secret be shouted from Youtube and other platforms. I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, the king of kings, knowing that the Lord will do more than we could ask or think. Amen.

 

[ResidentAlien]

So, I don't know anything about the reliability of Stew Peters; but he just put out that TPUSA is now taking money from donors that CK previously rejected because he didn't want their influence in the organization. If this turns out to be true, then I think that 99.999% tells us everything we need to know.

Charlie was an ecumenists. Anyone who supports conservative right-wing values he was okay with; he considered them Christians. He basically sacrificed Christianity on the altar of conservative politics. People see him out debating college students and supposedly leading them to Christ, and they applaud; but they don't see his dark side. You have to wonder: Was he leading them to Christ or to the Donald and maga?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Charlie Kirk’s Sister FINALLY Breaks Silence On Erika — “He Had No Idea!”

Turns out a lot of people close to this including both family and people in TPUSA have issues, questions, and concerns about Erika.

Sorry,this stuff is really sick. I don't believe any of this junk for a second. Nothing but tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Charlie was an ecumenists. Anyone who supports conservative right-wing values he was okay with; he considered them Christians

I think he was in the process of exploring denominational Christianity himself, and didn't really have strong doctrinal positions.

He basically sacrificed Christianity on the altar of conservative politics.

Why? Because he tried to influence a nation instead of pastoring a church?

People see him out debating college students and supposedly leading them to Christ, and they applaud; but they don't see his dark side. You have to wonder: Was he leading them to Christ or to the Donald and maga?

He was.convicting the world of sin. Whether he was always going about it in a biblical way is debatable -and that's probably a key discussion- but this whole "leading people to donald" is nonsense... in a very short time Donald Trump will be irrelevant; his term in office will expire, and his term in life is also coming to an end as well.

 

[ResidentAlien]

but this whole "leading people to donald" is nonsense.

Not really. He was a political zealot, especially for the Donald and maga. He was an election denier, he campaigned for the J6 rally and even arranged for people to be bussed there. He personally paid for Kimberly Guilfoyle to speak there. He had Turning Point USA, but he also had Turning Point Action which is a political group which provides resources to help elect conservative candidates. The question isn't whether he was a soldier for Donald and maga, but how could anyone not know that.

 

[ZNP]

Sorry,this stuff is really sick. I don't believe any of this junk for a second. Nothing but tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

Sorry, but I think the family has a voice that should be respected. Ask yourself this, if Charlie was your son what would cause you to not go to the Memorial service? Even if I did not like my daughter in law I would still go, it is his service. Even if I felt uneasy about her I would still go. It would have to be something really, really serious to not go. Now if they chose not to go but also chose to be quiet then it would remain a mystery. But both the mother and sister are saying why they chose not to go and that is a testimony that should be heard. These people cared for Charlie and they knew the story from the inside.

Do you remember when Meghan married Harry and her father didn't go to the ceremony? That should have raised question marks about her. Well this wasn't simply one person, it was the mother, father and sister who didn't go. I'm sorry, what is really truly sick is people ignoring the mother, father and sister of Charlie.

But it is worse than that, we now have long time donors to the TPUSA who are freezing their donations. You know what is also really sick? People who didn't know Charlie from Adam six months ago ignoring the people who have supported him financially for years.

Not only so but we have people who were in TPUSA also leaking out these stories.

Yes, you can have a disgruntled employee, yes you have have a disgruntled donor and yes there can be a family feud. This is why the Lord said we need two or three witnesses. At this point we have six witnesses all agreeing and what is truly sick is people claiming to be Christians, claiming Jesus is Lord and yet they are ignoring the word of God. Paul said not to listen to a complaint about an elder except you have two or three witnesses. We have six. According to the word of God if you call this a tin foil hat conspiracy and ignore these witnesses then you will be judged with the same judgement you judge others. The word of God is my head covering in posting this, by ignoring this you are taking off your head covering and trusting in your own opinion.

 

[ZNP]

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

We have seen this repeatedly in the last few years. Think of how you weren't allowed to question the vaccine. The most recent example is with Charlie Kirk's assassination. When someone who is running the most powerful political ministry is assassinated then it is reasonable to want to fully investigate this. When everyone in power from the President to all of his cabinet members claim that they would not have been elected had it not been for Charlie's ministry, then you want to fully investigate this. When they tell you that one loan, crazed kid did this, well that may be true, but it is the least likely explanation. My concern is that the purpose of the assassination was to gain control of TPUSA because of how powerful and influential it is to those who are in power. If it turns out that it really was just one lone nut job, fine. But there are a lot of unanswered questions. For example, why did the Mother, Father and sister refuse to come to the memorial? Fortunately the mother and sister have answered that question, the reason is they don't trust Erika, Charlie's wife and the new CEO of TPUSA. They see her as manipulative and have thought that she was a plant. Her parents are both very high up in the military industrial complex, she herself was already a millionaire with several other operations that she was running which some feel were covers for the Deep State. She even knew Donald Trump before meeting Charlie, as she had been in the Miss USA pageant that he ran. But it is worse, it turns out that several long time donors have also chosen to freeze donations to TPUSA because the audit Charlie had ordered has been cancelled by Erika. No one can claim these donors are somehow evil people trying to slander Charlie and his wife. And it gets even worse, insiders within TPUSA are also leaking out information that corroborates what Charlies family and donors are saying. In my opinion we have six witnesses that something is wrong, we have an assassination that results in Erika taking charge of the most powerful political organization in the country. Seems to me we have plenty to question. But then you have these people who claim they are Christians and make it seem like I am questioning the virgin birth. My feeling is they are doing everything in their power to prevent me from entering into the truth and walking in the light.

 

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If the shoe fits, wear it (part 1)

Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

In the first woe they keep us from examining the assassination of Charlie. In this woe they devour Charlie's ministry and for a pretence make this long prayer (that memorial service that lasted from 8am when people first entered until 5 or 6pm with one politician after another getting up making their long prayer).

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Where did they find Erika? She was running a non profit in Romania. Consider this, she was a beauty queen who was running a non profit (likely a front for the CIA), she had already become a millionaire, both her parents were exceedingly influential in the military industrial complex, and somehow she decides she wants to drop all of that to join TPUSA. Anyone ever consider that perhaps the deep state has compassed sea and land to find the perfect honeypot to gain control of TPUSA? This is how they got control of Samson by using Delilah, why wouldn't they use the same strategy on Charlie?

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

This is hilarious! The Lord cuts straight to the point. Charlie was complaining about how the donors were trying to manipulate him and he had ordered a full audit, which after the assassination was canceled. Donors are blind guides. They think that since they donated money to your ministry you are now a debtor to follow their instructions.

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

They are fools and blind if they think they can get rid of Charlie and still have a powerful political ministry. Erika thinks she will make this bigger and better than it was. She is a fool and blind. What made that ministry was Charlie, not the gold. The reason was because he was a vessel for the Lord, just as the Temple is a house for God.

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

Charlie knew that you have to be faithful to the cross of Christ. These ones think that you have to be faithful to the money that is donated. If you don't obey what your donors want then you are guilty. Since Charlie was refusing to be obedient to the donors he was guilty and so they justify the assassination.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

Think of how foolish and blind this is. Suppose they donated $1 million. Did the $1 million cause TPUSA to be so influential? If so let's see you do it again with another million. It should be much easier the second time around. But the reality is they can pay $100 million and won't get the same impact or result.

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. 21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. 22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

This is a lesson to every Christian ministry out there. We stand on several facts. First, Jesus Christ is Lord and we stand on His blood. It was His sacrifice that opened the way for this ministry, not some financial donor. Second, we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, he is our guide. and Third, God is our father and we can take all our petitions to Him. The president of the US and the VP of the US are not greater than God the Father.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

This is too funny if it were not too sick. Can you imagine ignoring an assassination but making sure to pay the tithe of mint? Let's make sure everything smells good, and tastes good while ignoring murder, and lies, and covetousness.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

The people seizing power of the organization through assassination are the camel. They go after anyone who didn't like Charlie to make sure they lose their job. OK, it is like a gnat in the oil, makes sense you don't want that person teaching your kid, but you swallow the story of the assassination while straining this person out of a job?

 

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If the Shoe fits wear it (part 2)

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Isn't that the claim? Excess is the reason that Charlie was calling for a complete audit. Extortion was what he was standing up to, he didn't want to be manipulated. No one heard about TPUSA before the assassination, now it is as though they have polished the china and put it in the china cabinet. Before anyone who disagreed with Charlie was given first place in line at the microphone, now if you say anything about Erika you are going to pay for it.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Yes, if you deal with the excess, people misusing the funds given to the ministry and if you deal with the extortion, the donors trying to manipulate the ministry then the outside will be clean also. Right now all they are doing is "putting lipstick on a pig".

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

No doubt about that. They definitely appeared beautiful to the whole world with that memorial and they definitely are full of dead men's bones.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Are we really so blind that we would agree to not investigate the hypocrisy and iniquity of the new CEO of TPUSA who takes over as a result of this assassination? Would we really ignore the warnings of Charlie's mother, sister, donors, and coworkers in the ministry?

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Like father, like son. They have been doing this for thousands of years going all the way back to Samson and Delilah. This is how the elites get power and put the people of God under their thumb.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

They have learned from their parents, been perfected by their parents are will fill up the full measure of their parents.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

This is a very serious judgment, it must be something really serious like murdering the leader of a ministry in order to take over his ministry.

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

We were warned, we have no excuse to ignore the fulfillment of this prophecy.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

The US has become the great Babylon and the judgement will be severe. The assassination of Charlie Kirk involves the most powerful people in this country. Some Christian leaders willingly do what they are told by their donors, which is why most of them went along with the illegal government shutdown during the Pandemic. Others refuse to be manipulated and so they are assassinated. That is the definition of extortion, either you pay up, or you get your knee caps busted.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Yes, Charlie's assassination is a major sign that the Lord is about to come.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Sorry, but I think the family has a voice that should be respected. Ask yourself this, if Charlie was your son what would cause you to not go to the Memorial service? Even if I did not like my daughter in law I would still go, it is his service. Even if I felt uneasy about her I would still go. It would have to be something really, really serious to not go. Now if they chose not to go but also chose to be quiet then it would remain a mystery. But both the mother and sister are saying why they chose not to go and that is a testimony that should be heard. These people cared for Charlie and they knew the story from the inside.

I lost a loved one in a tragic gun accident. People go into shock. Kirks parents clearly were not public people. In fact I didn't even know he was married and who she was until his passing. She would feel the burden to attend these events in her husbands name. But the family wanted to grieve quietly and didn't want their faces in the news and on social media, that's their choice. There is nothing wrong about that at all.

Do you remember when Meghan married Harry and her father didn't go to the ceremony? That should have raised question marks about her. Well this wasn't simply one person, it was the mother, father and sister who didn't go. I'm sorry, what is really truly sick is people ignoring the mother, father and sister of Charlie.

Megan is a spoiled brat. Who cares? If his parents had been outgoing and in the public eye, then suddenly didn't show up to these events, then I can see questions. But they clearly are not public. They weren't before his death nor after.They showed up for his medal from the president but still stayed out of sight. They want privacy and it should be given to them.

But it is worse than that, we now have long time donors to the TPUSA who are freezing their donations. You know what is also really sick? People who didn't know Charlie from Adam six months ago ignoring the people who have supported him financially for years.

Not only so but we have people who were in TPUSA also leaking out these stories.

There's been a big change. It makes sense that donors might hold donations until they are sure which direction things are going in. Will his wife do things the same or change them? It's not alarming to me.

Yes, you can have a disgruntled employee, yes you have have a disgruntled donor and yes there can be a family feud. This is why the Lord said we need two or three witnesses. At this point we have six witnesses all agreeing and what is truly sick is people claiming to be Christians, claiming Jesus is Lord and yet they are ignoring the word of God. Paul said not to listen to a complaint about an elder except you have two or three witnesses. We have six. According to the word of God if you call this a tin foil hat conspiracy and ignore these witnesses then you will be judged with the same judgement you judge others

Rumors at best. Google the family, you find nothing of them.

. The word of God is my head covering in posting this, by ignoring this you are taking off your head covering and trusting in your own opinion.

No, I think rumors should be left as that and thats all.

 

[ZNP]

I lost a loved one in a tragic gun accident. People go into shock. Kirks parents clearly were not public people. In fact I didn't even know he was married and who she was until his passing. She would feel the burden to attend these events in her husbands name. But the family wanted to grieve quietly and didn't want their faces in the news and on social media, that's their choice. There is nothing wrong about that at all.

That was a valid interpretation until both the sister and mother said what the issue was. Also, Charlie was not killed in a "gun accident". This was an assassination, and Charlie had security. How does a man with a rifle lay out on a roof and no one sees him in the security team? how does a man with a rifle walk away from the assassination while carrying a rifle and get away? Do not compare apples with oranges.

Megan is a spoiled brat. Who cares? If his parents had been outgoing and in the public eye, then suddenly didn't show up to these events, then I can see questions. But they clearly are not public. They weren't before his death nor after.They showed up for his medal from the president but still stayed out of sight. They want privacy and it should be given to them.

Yes, and that was the reason the father didn't come. That was the point. Why do we assume something is wrong with him and not consider it is equally likely something is wrong with her?

There's been a big change. It makes sense that donors might hold donations until they are sure which direction things are going in. Will his wife do things the same or change them? It's not alarming to me.

The donors have made it clear why they are withholding the donations. Charlie was going to do a full audit over evidence that the money was not being cared for properly. This audit was cancelled after the assassination.

Rumors at best. Google the family, you find nothing of them.

No, I think rumors should be left as that and thats all.

No you don't. You just gave me a rumor as to why the family didn't come. That was a rumor, no basis in fact, and the family has clearly and unequivocally debunked that rumor and yet you continue to spread it.

You also spread the rumor that the reason the donors are freezing their donations is to wait and see the direction of TPUSA. Again, that is a rumor, no basis in fact, the donors who are freezing their donations have said clearly why, it is because they cancelled the the audit. Again you are the one spreading rumors, not facts.

The sister telling us why she did not come to the memorial is not a rumor, it is a testimony that would be accepted in any court of law. Same with the mother, same with the donor and same with the whistleblower from within TPUSA trying to hide their identity. These are eyewitness testimonies. According to the Bible they are to be heard. We have six of them, if we only had one we could refuse to act on it, but six testimonies that all agree, that is a compelling case according to the standard of the Bible.

 

[Eli1]

Not really. He was a political zealot, especially for the Donald and maga. He was an election denier, he campaigned for the J6 rally and even arranged for people to be bussed there. He personally paid for Kimberly Guilfoyle to speak there. He had Turning Point USA, but he also had Turning Point Action which is a political group which provides resources to help elect conservative candidates. The question isn't whether he was a soldier for Donald and maga, but how could anyone not know that.

Did you say this statement identifying as a woman?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Do not compare apples with oranges.

I wasn't comparing incidents, I was comparing reactions. I haven't seen anything credible that mother or daughter has said. If you have a link, I'll check it out.

Yes, and that was the reason the father didn't come. That was the point. Why do we assume something is wrong with him and not consider it is equally likely something is wrong with her?

Was her father in her life before then? People rise to fame and family comes out of the woodwork. There's a picture of Kirks sister shaking Bernie Sanders hand. Perhaps they didn't agree politically.

The donors have made it clear why they are withholding the donations. Charlie was going to do a full audit over evidence that the money was not being cared for properly. This audit was cancelled after the assassination.

Same as above, can you link me to where those facts are found?

No you don't. You just gave me a rumor as to why the family didn't come. That was a rumor, no basis in fact, and the family has clearly and unequivocally debunked that rumor and yet you continue to spread it.

Not spreading any rumor that I know of. Where did the family publicly state their reasons for not attending the memorial.

You also spread the rumor that the reason the donors are freezing their donations is to wait and see the direction of TPUSA. Again, that is a rumor, no basis in fact, the donors who are freezing their donations have said clearly why, it is because they cancelled the the audit. Again you are the one spreading rumors, not facts.
The sister telling us why she did not come to the memorial is not a rumor, it is a testimony that would be accepted in any court of law. Same with the mother, same with the donor and same with the whistleblower from within TPUSA trying to hide their identity. These are eyewitness testimonies.

Link me to the facts then. I haven't heard any of this on the news. I have no reason to spread rumors about people I don't know. Show me the credible links.

 

[ZNP]

I wasn't comparing incidents, I was comparing reactions. I haven't seen anything credible that mother or daughter has said. If you have a link, I'll check it out.





Was her father in her life before then? People rise to fame and family comes out of the woodwork. There's a picture of Kirks sister shaking Bernie Sanders hand. Perhaps they didn't agree politically.




Same as above, can you link me to where those facts are found?



Not spreading any rumor that I know of. Where did the family publicly state their reasons for not attending the memorial.



Link me to the facts then. I haven't heard any of this on the news. I have no reason to spread rumors about people I don't know. Show me the credible links.

I posted the link, the person quotes them. Whether or not they have done a public interview or posted this publicly I have no idea. If it were you would you? The people who killed Charlie Kirk, the people connected to the most powerful people in the world?

If this person is misrepresenting them they can sue him for slander and liable and I feel certain TPUSA would foot the bill for the lawyers. In fact TPUSA and Erika could sue him. All the more reason to share the link. Force the issue.

 

[Charlesiii]

Your boy Tucker Carlson is a racist, a bigot, and a tare spewing the lies his father satan is instructing him to spew.

Can you give an example of when Tucker Carlson was racist? Perhaps a few years ago, but I don't think anything recently, although I might have missed it.

 

[Charlesiii]

On a related matter, Candace Owens claims her podcast has ranked first in the world today. She's wrong about some of the Catholic opinions she shares (although she admits she is not an expert), but its really pleasing to see that so many people are learning the truth about Charlie Kirk's politically motivated public execution and the depths the governments of the world will go to to hide their corruption, and a great many other matters.

Candace Owens also stated that Charlie Kirk said in the past that she would be his David. She's certainly going to town on all those philistines who were caught red-handed lying about Charlie Kirk, and exposing them for what they are.

 

[HeIsHere]

On a related matter, Candace Owens claims her podcast has ranked first in the world today. She's wrong about some of the Catholic opinions she shares (although she admits she is not an expert), but its really pleasing to see that so many people are learning the truth about Charlie Kirk's politically motivated public execution and the depths the governments of the world will go to to hide their corruption, and a great many other matters.

Candace Owens also stated that Charlie Kirk said in the past that she would be his David. She's certainly going to town on all those philistines who were caught red-handed lying about Charlie Kirk, and exposing them for what they are.

I will agree on it this way, I think he was beginning to realize he was being used for an agenda, an agenda with which he was not in full agreement any longer.

 

[ZNP]

On a related matter, Candace Owens claims her podcast has ranked first in the world today. She's wrong about some of the Catholic opinions she shares (although she admits she is not an expert), but its really pleasing to see that so many people are learning the truth about Charlie Kirk's politically motivated public execution and the depths the governments of the world will go to to hide their corruption, and a great many other matters.

Candace Owens also stated that Charlie Kirk said in the past that she would be his David. She's certainly going to town on all those philistines who were caught red-handed lying about Charlie Kirk, and exposing them for what they are.

can you share a link to a video of hers you think we should see on this topic?