When are your sins forgiven?

[Gideon300]

"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins Ephesians 1:7

'in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins" Colossians 1:7

The sin of all mankind was taken away by the Lamb of God who shed His precious blood 2,000 years ago to redeem us. It becomes effective when we receive Christ as Saviour. I was convicted that I was a sinner. But I hardly knew what sin was. I do remember well the sense of a great load of guilt lifting off me when I received Jesus.

What about after we are saved? Are our sins still forgiven? Suppose a believer is speeding, breaking the law, and dies in an accident. Is that person forgiven or do they go to hell?

It is clear to me that we are already forgiven. Jesus paid for all our sin; past, present and future. Tell me how many of your sins were future when Jesus died? That's easy. All of them!

Sin does not break relationship. It breaks fellowship. So we do need to confess our sins as soon as we realise that we have sinned. Jesus has already paid the price. We need our conscience to be cleansed.

".....how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify our consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!" (Hebrews 9:14)

 

[GWH]

"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins Ephesians 1:7

'in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins" Colossians 1:7

The sin of all mankind was taken away by the Lamb of God who shed His precious blood 2,000 years ago to redeem us. It becomes effective when we receive Christ as Saviour. I was convicted that I was a sinner. But I hardly knew what sin was. I do remember well the sense of a great load of guilt lifting off me when I received Jesus.

What about after we are saved? Are our sins still forgiven? Suppose a believer is speeding, breaking the law, and dies in an accident. Is that person forgiven or do they go to hell?

It is clear to me that we are already forgiven. Jesus paid for all our sin; past, present and future. Tell me how many of your sins were future when Jesus died? That's easy. All of them!

Sin does not break relationship. It breaks fellowship. So we do need to confess our sins as soon as we realise that we have sinned. Jesus has already paid the price. We need our conscience to be cleansed.

".....how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify our consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!" (Hebrews 9:14)

Sins are forgiven when the sinner repents/accepts Jesus as Lord,
and yes, saved saints sin, so they should confess ASAP and be refilled with the HS.

 

[studentoftheword]

Sins are forgiven when the sinner repents/accepts Jesus as Lord,

So are you saying Jesus didn't take all sin for all people ----as per scripture says He DID -----what your repenting Today is that you need a Saviour ---to save you from the 2nd Death ---and have eternal life ---your not being Saved from your sins as they are already forgiven -------

1 John 2:2
AMPC
And He [that same Jesus Himself] is the propitiation (the atoning sacrifice) for our sins, and not for ours alone but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

I say ----------Jesus took ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE -----Sin now is not the issue -------Sin has been dealt with ----
Unbelievers still have the Sin Nature but their sins --Past --Present and Future have been forgiven ----

Now ---unbelievers still have their Corrupt Nature and Tainted Human Spirit ----but when they sin it is forgiven just like True believer's sins are forgiven -----what unbelievers must do NOW ---is---By and Through His FAITH Receive Jesus as their Lord and Saviour so you Receive the Holy Spirit who changes their Corrupt Nature and tainted Spirit to a Holy Nature and Spirit so you can obey God's commands ---and be adopted back into God's Family -----but God no longer Charges SIN to ANYONE Any More --------

REJECTING JESUS -----who took each and every person"s SIN upon Himself will send unbelievers to Hell ---and if a Person Rejects Jesus ---then they also Reject the Father and the Holy Spirit ---as they are ONE GOD ----reject ONE then YOU REJECT them ALL ---and your doomed -----

AI

Jesus's sacrifice through his blood atoned for the sins of all people, offering a complete and finished forgiveness.

This forgiveness is a finished work of grace that is received through faith in Christ, not by human works. This act is seen as a one-time, ultimate sacrifice that fulfills the Old Testament sacrificial system

 

[GWH]

So are you saying Jesus didn't take all sin for all people ----as per scripture says He DID -----what your repenting Today is that you need a Saviour ---to save you from the 2nd Death ---and have eternal life ---your not being Saved from your sins as they are already forgiven -------

1 John 2:2
AMPC
And He [that same Jesus Himself] is the propitiation (the atoning sacrifice) for our sins, and not for ours alone but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

I say ----------Jesus took ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE -----Sin now is not the issue -------Sin has been dealt with ----
Unbelievers still have the Sin Nature but their sins --Past --Present and Future have been forgiven ----

Now ---unbelievers still have their Corrupt Nature and Tainted Human Spirit ----but when they sin it is forgiven just like True believer's sins are forgiven -----what unbelievers must do NOW ---is---By and Through His FAITH Receive Jesus as their Lord and Saviour so you Receive the Holy Spirit who changes their Corrupt Nature and tainted Spirit to a Holy Nature and Spirit so you can obey God's commands ---and be adopted back into God's Family -----but God no longer Charges SIN to ANYONE Any More --------

REJECTING JESUS -----who took each and every person"s SIN upon Himself will send unbelievers to Hell ---and if a Person Rejects Jesus ---then they also Reject the Father and the Holy Spirit ---as they are ONE GOD ----reject ONE then YOU REJECT them ALL ---and your doomed -----

AI

Jesus's sacrifice through his blood atoned for the sins of all people, offering a complete and finished forgiveness.

This forgiveness is a finished work of grace that is received through faith in Christ, not by human works. This act is seen as a one-time, ultimate sacrifice that fulfills the Old Testament sacrificial system

If all people are forgiven, then the Bible is moot.

 

[studentoftheword]

If all people are forgiven, then the Bible is moot.

Your ignorance of Spiritual understanding is showing here -----Cause -----your saying you don't believe Scripture ------when the Scripture clearly says that ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE IS FORGIVEN ----

So you can believe what you want ------but --------you can't change this Scripture

1 John 2:2
AMPC
And He [that same Jesus Himself] is the propitiation (the atoning sacrifice) for our sins, and not for ours alone but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

AND ---We who are True Believers can't say -----OH WELL ___I BELIEVE THIS SCRIPTURE ____BUT____NOT THIS SCRIPTURE -----

God says -----MY WORD IS TRUTH -----AND God Inspired ------SO WE EITHER BELIEVE ALL OF IT _____OR __WE BELIEVE NONE OF IT _____there is no inbetween -----

JESUS is THE WORD -----and Jesus said ----YOUR EITHER WITH ME ___OR___YOUR AGAINST ME _____NO INBETWEEN ----here

 

[Blade]

For me knowing in the word at times who they were talking to so forth so on. 1st John Chapter 1 is one of them. Its not a guess or wondering but fact there was a group that didn't believe Christ was the Messiah but that Messiah was some kind of spirit. Its why we read John saying we heard touched felt.. He was a real man sent from the Father. They believed they had no sin. didn't sin. So we read if we say we have not sin we deceive our selfs and the truth is not in us. Its why he said if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleans us from all unrighteousness.

Now read Chapter 2 now he talks different "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." Read verse 12 I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name."

Knowing who John was talking to Chapter 1 and then read Chapter 2. The Father no longer remembers you sin. Go for.. at any time.. ask Him.. He is in us we are one .. right? Ask Him to show you where He remembers you sin unless you confess. Really? "if" I am not forgiven unless I confess? How in the world will we get to heaven? No sin will enter and if that is you that freely willingly sinned.. it will not go to heaven. Yeah be nice if when we ever sinned it was oops didn't mean to.. just 100% all tempted. Have we really confessed ever wrong ever sin? That is the hardest part for me to know I have been as John said forgiven and He does not remember it. The enemy has never stopped since Christ found me to point out my sins yet oddly in 50+_years He God the Father Christ and the sweet Holy Spirit has never once pointed it out...never. Just "that's why I died". Told me to get up dust off keep going. I repent not to be forgiven that part is done.. but.. I can not freely sin.. it is missing the mark it does will put something between me and God and hinders Him. Forgiven but in this world no one can freely sin.. there is a price in this world for sinning.

He is my friend.. my best friend.. my brother my savoir my GOD and .. yeah always.. I am so sorry for doing that.. forgive me. Again.. He already died for the sin of the world. Paul.. telling Jewish Christians that would sin then try to go back and offer a sacrifice for that sin. He told them.. there is no more sacrifice for that sin Christ can not die again. Its Hebrews who he was talking to..its one of those vereses so many stumble on.

I am not here to offend... knowing Christ is all that matters.. but don't let the enemy steal you joy... I truly in 50+ years knowing Him never meet one that wanted to now forgiven freely sin.. it was no in them yet it was. We are a new creation.. what is that? The Paul tells us.. what I want to do I don't do and what I don't want to do I do.. Its no longer I that sin but sin that is in me. Your not this fiesh.. you are a new man.. new creation.. that loves each others.. speaks words of life.. wants to keep Christs words.. if someone does not they are not of Him of us.. Could have should have just left what Studentoftheword said.. short right to the point.. haha blah blah blah.. if only could..

 

[p_rehbein]

Sins are forgiven when you ask for forgiveness. Upon your repenting and asking for Jesus to come into your life, His precious blood (applied by the Holy Ghost) cleanses you of your sins and gives you a new heart, and you are born again as a new babe in Christ.

Two types of sin:

Comision: These are sins purposely committed. These sins can steal ones salvation, for they require Jesus to be crucified again to be forgiven, and that will not happen. One must AGAIN repent and return to Christ. People often refer to this as "backsliding."

Omission: These sins are ones that any believer can commit without meaning to. Such sins are still covered by the blood of Christ under the persons first repentance. All one has to do is apologize to Christ and ask for His forgiveness. He will do so.

The blood of Jesus shed on the cross is always there for those who repent. However, as some believe, their first repentance where His blood is applied does not cover any sins AFTER their salvation. Jesus Himself taught us this in the Prayer He gave us to pray. "and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."

Once saved always saved is flawed Theology. Period!

 

[studentoftheword]

Sins are forgiven when you ask for forgiveness.

Again that is not what the Scriptures says -------it says that the Blood of Jesus that was shed Cleansed all Sins for all people for all time ----all Past --Present and Future Sins are forgiven by God -------

GOD SAYS ____


1 John 2:2
AMPC
And He [that same Jesus Himself] is the propitiation (the atoning sacrifice) for our sins, and not for ours alone but also for [the sins of] the whole world.


So p_rehbein is another one who doesn't believe what the scripture says -----here

So anyone who has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit will believe what the Scripture says and not post what contradicts what the scripture clearly says -----

You either believe Jesus who is the word or you don't ------You cannot say ---I believe this scripture but not that scripture as God inspired all the scripture and God says ------His Word is TRUTH ----

 

[GWH]

Your ignorance of Spiritual understanding is showing here -----Cause -----your saying you don't believe Scripture ------when the Scripture clearly says that ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE IS FORGIVEN ----

So you can believe what you want ------but --------you can't change this Scripture

1 John 2:2
AMPC
And He [that same Jesus Himself] is the propitiation (the atoning sacrifice) for our sins, and not for ours alone but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

AND ---We who are True Believers can't say -----OH WELL ___I BELIEVE THIS SCRIPTURE ____BUT____NOT THIS SCRIPTURE -----

God says -----MY WORD IS TRUTH -----AND God Inspired ------SO WE EITHER BELIEVE ALL OF IT _____OR __WE BELIEVE NONE OF IT _____there is no inbetween -----

JESUS is THE WORD -----and Jesus said ----YOUR EITHER WITH ME ___OR___YOUR AGAINST ME _____NO INBETWEEN ----here

No, your illogic is showing: If everyone's sins are forgiven, then everyone is saved to heaven and there is no need for the Bible.

However, the Bible is needed in order for sinners to learn how to be saved by believing the Gospel per John 3:16-18.

1John 2:2 means that the L in tulip is wrong--but you can believe what you want.

 

[studentoftheword]

No, your illogic is showing: If everyone's sins are forgiven, then everyone is saved to heaven and there is no need for the Bible.

NO ---that is not so ---again your NON Spiritual Understanding is showing here ----

Unbelievers need to accept Jesus Christ by His Faith to be save ---Jesus took all sin for all people ---but NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE RECEIVED JESUS AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOUR ------

Jesus took all sin for all people therefor all people need to Receive Jesus who is the one who took all the sin ------

Get this ----it is not hard to understand ----

Your not believing what the scripture says cause your spiritual understanding is Blocked -----

1John 2:2 means that the L in tulip is wrong--but you can believe what you want.

The L in the tulip is Wrong ----and there is no Tulip in God;s word ----it is all about Getting the Right Faith inbirthed in you by hearing the Gospel to Receive Jesus who took your Sin -----

NO ONE GOES TO HELL FROM THE SINS THEY HAVE COMMITTED _____YOU GO TO HELL NOW BECAUSE YOU REJECTED JESUS CHRIST __WHO TOOK YOUR SIN ===PAST __PRESENT AND FUTURE ---SINS ARE ALL DEALT WITH ____AS FAR AS GOD IS CONCERNED -----ACCEPT NOW ___HIS SON -------OR PERISH -----

WITHOUT RECEIVING JESUS WHO TOOK ALL SIN UPON HIMSELF ___YOUR DOOMED

 

[GWH]

NO ---that is not so ---again your NON Spiritual Understanding is showing here ----

Unbelievers need to accept Jesus Christ by His Faith to be save ---Jesus took all sin for all people ---but NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE RECEIVED JESUS AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOUR ------

Jesus took all sin for all people therefor all people need to Receive Jesus who is the one who took all the sin ------

Get this ----it is not hard to understand ----

Your not believing what the scripture says cause your spiritual understanding is Blocked -----

The L in the tulip is Wrong ----and there is no Tulip in God;s word ----it is all about Getting the Right Faith inbirthed in you by hearing the Gospel to Receive Jesus who took your Sin -----

NO ONE GOES TO HELL FROM THE SINS THEY HAVE COMMITTED _____YOU GO TO HELL NOW BECAUSE YOU REJECTED JESUS CHRIST __WHO TOOK YOUR SIN ===PAST __PRESENT AND FUTURE ---SINS ARE ALL DEALT WITH ____AS FAR AS GOD IS CONCERNED -----ACCEPT NOW ___HIS SON -------OR PERISH -----

WITHOUT RECEIVING JESUS WHO TOOK ALL SIN UPON HIMSELF ___YOUR DOOMED

IOW, unbelievers' sins are NOT forgiven unless/until they repent and receive Jesus as Lord,
the Messiah whose atonement paid the penalty for humanity's sins.
Amen! Why didn't you say that in the first place?

 

[studentoftheword]

Two types of sin:

Comision: These are sins purposely committed. These sins can steal ones salvation, for they require Jesus to be crucified again to be forgiven, and that will not happen. One must AGAIN repent and return to Christ. People often refer to this as "backsliding."

Omission: These sins are ones that any believer can commit without meaning to. Such sins are still covered by the blood of Christ under the persons first repentance. All one has to do is apologize to Christ and ask for His forgiveness. He will do so.[/QUOTE]


FOLKS ___These Comments are False Doctrine ------here we have a perfect example of a WOLF in SHEEP'S CLOTHING ----A FALSE PROPHET -----TWISTING SCRIPTURE TO SUIT THEIR OWN FALSE BELIEF ----which Jesus warns us about ------

First Off -----All Sin we do is Committed willfully -------God told Cain this -------sin is crouching at your door ---it DESIRES YOU =====YOU MUST MASTER IT -------SO we have free will to choose to sin or not to do the SIN --------------there are NOT 2 types of SIN ---SIN is SIN -----Period

Genesis 4:7

AMPC
If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin crouches at your door; its desire is for you, but you must master it.

I say --------------If the Speed limit is 50 and you do 80 ----no one has made you do 80 except your own choice to not obey the 50 zone and to do 80 -----

If you commit adultery -----you do it cause you made the choice to commit it -----no one has forced you to commit this sin -----

If you lie ---bear faults witness against your neighbour ---you do it because you have made the choice to do it ----no one has force you to lie against your neighbour -----


So we have a choice to do the sin or not to do it ------Your Sin Nature is having the Nature -----TO ___SIN it does not demand that you sin ---------



p_rehbein, post:here

sins purposely committed. These sins can steal ones salvation

This again is False Doctrine -------Sins cannot steal ones Salvation --------
for if one keeps on Sinning then they are not SAVED ______Scripture is clear on that ------they are False Christians -like the Pharisees who Jesus called out many times ----


p_rehbein, post:here

These sins can steal ones salvation, for they require Jesus to be crucified again to be forgiven, and that will not happen. People often refer to this as "backsliding."

I say -----
NO again this is False ----Sins cannot steal one's salvation-as all sins have been forgiven already ---God does not go back on HIS WORD ___WHO IS JESUS -BY THE WAY -----

This Scripture on
Jesus to be crucified again to be forgiven------------- This is referring to a complete FALLING away from God ---that is RELINQUISHING -the HOLY SPIRIT ----

That is after the Born Again Person experiences the goodness of the HOLY SPIRIT then decides to Fall Away from God Completely -------this is different from one backsliding ---as one who backslides can be brought back to the fold ---

The Parable of the Lost Sheep tells us that ------the Shepard will continue to try and bring back a Backslider ----

Now------- Backsliding can be dangerous if the person does not have a another True Believer to rely on to bring them back to the way of Christ ------as the longer they are left without the support ---they can revert back to the World ----

This is the Scripture about ---Falling Away -----

Hebrews 6

4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,

5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age

6 and who have fallen[c] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

I say --------This is to do with RELINQUISHING -the HOLY SPIRIT ----it has nothing to do with sin -all sin is forgiven by God ==FOLKS

p_rehbein,says
These sins are ones that any believer can commit without meaning to

ALL SIN WE DO IS WILLFUL _____FOLKS

Such sins are still covered by the blood of Christ under the persons first repentance. All one has to do is apologize to Christ and ask for His forgiveness. He will do so

Again this is False Doctrine -----what he says here ----
Such sins are still covered by the blood of Christ under the persons first repentance

I say -------
there is only one repentance Folks --------REPENTANCE is a MIND CHANGE ------it has nothing to do with sin -----

ALL SIN was Covered by the BLOOD OF Jesus for ALL PEOPLE FOR ALL TIME -----as it says in Scripture which has been posted several times -----

What this person says here in the red ---is again False Doctrine ------as our Sins are forgiven already -----

When BORN AGAIN PEOPLE SIN _____WE ARE to CONFESS ___that is Speak out loud what we did wrong -----This is NOT DONE for GOD TO FORGIVE US -----he already forgave us of our SINS ----

This Confession is for ourselves ---so that WE can acknowledge that we Missed the Mark and are agreeing with God that we did Sin and that we need to get back on the right track ------and try our best NOT TO SIN --------

God already knows that we will miss the mark -----we need to remind ourselves by the confession that we missed the Mark ---

The Greek word for Confess is

1843 eksomologéō --"say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

READ CAREFULLY --------WE Agree with God that we sinned by Confessing that we did --and we keep the gate open to His Grace ------Unconfessed sin blocks our PRAYERS---we confess and get back on track to not sin -----and as we Mature Spiritually we sin less and Less as we want to PLEASE GOD -------

 

[studentoftheword]

unbelievers' sins are NOT forgiven

Unbelievers SINS ARE ALREADY FORGIVEN -------whether they accept Christ or Not ----ALL SIN IS DEALT WITH --------THE BLOOD JESUS SHED COVERED ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE FOR ALL TIME _____BELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVERS

UNbelievers go to the Lake of Fire for not Receiving Jesus ----their sin has been dealt with ----

Jesus will not judge anyone for their sins when He comes Back ---He will Judge them on if they received Him or Rejected Him -----Rejecting Jesus puts you in the lake of fire ---not your SINS ----

THIS is the SEPARATING and JUDGMENT of the SHEEP AND THE GOATS ----upon His 2nd COMING -----

 

[GWH]

Unbelievers SINS ARE ALREADY FORGIVEN -------whether they accept Christ or Not ----ALL SIN IS DEALT WITH --------THE BLOOD JESUS SHED COVERED ALL SIN FOR ALL PEOPLE FOR ALL TIME _____BELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVERS

UNbelievers go to the Lake of Fire for not Receiving Jesus ----their sin has been dealt with ----

Jesus will not judge anyone for their sins when He comes Back ---He will Judge them on if they received Him or Rejected Him -----Rejecting Jesus puts you in the lake of fire ---not your SINS ----

THIS is the SEPARATING and JUDGMENT of the SHEEP AND THE GOATS ----upon His 2nd COMING -----


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The last time I checked the NT, not receiving Jesus was the primary sin!

 

[studentoftheword]

The last time I checked the NT, not receiving Jesus was the primary sin!

NOT RECEIVING JESUS IS NOT A SIN _______NOT RECEIVING JESUS is a personal Choice to refuse Salvation which was made available by God;s Grace ----

Refusing to accept God's free Gift of Salvation is not a SIN -------

A Sin is breaking a LAW -----where there is no LAW THERE IS NO SIN -IMPUTED ----

THERE IS NO ___LAW -------saying ------WE MUST RECEIVE SALVATION ____BY ACCEPTING JESUS AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR ------RECEIVING JESUS IS A PERSONAL CHOICE _____not a LAW -----

ROMANS 5:13
Berean Standard Bible
For sin was in the world before the law was given; but sin is not taken into account when there is no law.


ROMANS 4:15

Berean Standard Bible
because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law, there is no transgression.

Romans 7

The Law and Sin
7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”[b]

8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead.

 

[Ouch]

"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins Ephesians 1:7

'in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins" Colossians 1:7

The sin of all mankind was taken away by the Lamb of God who shed His precious blood 2,000 years ago to redeem us. It becomes effective when we receive Christ as Saviour. I was convicted that I was a sinner. But I hardly knew what sin was. I do remember well the sense of a great load of guilt lifting off me when I received Jesus.

What about after we are saved? Are our sins still forgiven? Suppose a believer is speeding, breaking the law, and dies in an accident. Is that person forgiven or do they go to hell?

It is clear to me that we are already forgiven. Jesus paid for all our sin; past, present and future. Tell me how many of your sins were future when Jesus died? That's easy. All of them!

Sin does not break relationship. It breaks fellowship. So we do need to confess our sins as soon as we realise that we have sinned. Jesus has already paid the price. We need our conscience to be cleansed.

".....how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify our consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!" (Hebrews 9:14)

Since,

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

If sin separates us from GOD and he turned HIS back on us as he does not hear us.

Why would you say are sins have already been forgiven?

What was the purpose of John the baptist ministry?

 

[Ouch]

No, your illogic is showing: If everyone's sins are forgiven, then everyone is saved to heaven and there is no need for the Bible.

However, the Bible is needed in order for sinners to learn how to be saved by believing the Gospel per John 3:16-18.

1John 2:2 means that the L in tulip is wrong--but you can believe what you want.

just as some believe we can be save without getting rid of our sins.

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Strange, looks like he don't even hear sinners and turns his back of those who never got rid of them?

Like you said, we can believe anything we wish.

 

[Ouch]

Sins are forgiven when you ask for forgiveness. Upon your repenting and asking for Jesus to come into your life, His precious blood (applied by the Holy Ghost) cleanses you of your sins and gives you a new heart, and you are born again as a new babe in Christ.

Two types of sin:

Comision: These are sins purposely committed. These sins can steal ones salvation, for they require Jesus to be crucified again to be forgiven, and that will not happen. One must AGAIN repent and return to Christ. People often refer to this as "backsliding."

Omission: These sins are ones that any believer can commit without meaning to. Such sins are still covered by the blood of Christ under the persons first repentance. All one has to do is apologize to Christ and ask for His forgiveness. He will do so.

The blood of Jesus shed on the cross is always there for those who repent. However, as some believe, their first repentance where His blood is applied does not cover any sins AFTER their salvation. Jesus Himself taught us this in the Prayer He gave us to pray. "and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."

Once saved always saved is flawed Theology. Period!

How can we be saved the way you describe?

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Strange, looks like he don't even hear sinners and turns his back of those who never got rid of them?

How do we get rid of them?

 

[Gideon300]

Since,

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

If sin separates us from GOD and he turned HIS back on us as he does not hear us.

Why would you say are sins have already been forgiven?

What was the purpose of John the baptist ministry?

Were you alive when Jesus became the lamb of God to take away the sins of the world? No. So how many of your sins were future? All of them. Does Jesus have to die for you every time you sin? Of course not.

Ephesians tells us we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. You could see it like a bank account. The money is there, it is yours and you only have to draw on it.

John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus. John said that he had to decrease and Jesus increase. John could not pay for sin, he was a man like everyone else.

 

[Karlon]

it depends on who you are. an atheist's sins are never forgiven. A born again Christian's sins are forgiven after sinning. however, note that habitual sin isn't forgiven.