Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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LifelongLearner said:
It is understandable, we're old enough to remember when they were recognised as having similarities for sure,
however, many see them as interchangeable now. I do think it's a deliberate conflation, there definitely is a
general dumbing down in education. They're not interchangeable but we can't make the blind see sadly.
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These things we come to know are by Spiritual discernment... This is what we speak, not in words taught us
by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers
them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
 
Blue155 said:
Yes
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not that it really matters m but could you define why you love him lots like jelly tots.

Now if you confess it's because your silly then we have no need to talk about how silly we are when we meet in the clouds 🤩

Just wondered are you a chicken or a cockerel m
 
Jordon said:
not that it really matters m but could you define why you love him lots like jelly tots.

Now if you confess it's because your silly then we have no need to talk about how silly we are when we meet in the clouds 🤩

Just wondered are you a chicken or a cockerel m
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Well, I took for granted LLL was a woman. So, since I know he’s a man, I love him like friend lol.

Now, if LLL was actually a never married woman, then it would obviously be a different kind of love lol.
 
Blue155 said:
Well, I took for granted LLL was a woman. So, since I know he’s a man, I love him like friend lol.

Now, if LLL was actually a never married woman, then it would obviously be a different kind of love lol.
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.spoken like a true blue 🤩

Not that it really matters m, but could you define A beautiful woman.

Would it be love at first sight 🤩
 
Blue155 said:
Well, I took for granted LLL was a woman. So, since I know he’s a man, I love him like friend lol.

Now, if LLL was actually a never married woman, then it would obviously be a different kind of love lol.
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Ooh! Didn't realise another page had started, you got it right, i'm a woman, an elderly Mum with 3 sons and a daughter. Maybe saying i love chess made him think i'm a bloke, it actually used to be a parlour game until relatively recently. Far fewer women play chess now than in the past but i love the game.
I'm a seriously good, natural player, have an in the wind, inspired sort of game style. Much more fun for spectators than the usual engine learned game style.
 
Jordon said:
.spoken like a true blue 🤩

Not that it really matters m, but could you define A beautiful woman.

Would it be love at first sight 🤩
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Interesting, my concept of beauty in men has changed some as i've aged. Physical beauty was more important when i was young but now, a beautiful mind and real intelligence matter more to me.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Oh bless! The self deception is strong with this one Lord, please forgive him because he really might not understand he has a problem. 🙏:)

Seriously now, just look at the bunch of trolls you hang around with, i noticed GWH was accused of being a troll on one of his own threads, by a pretty sound, respected person here. At least he didn't deny it, that time anyway. Most of you lot are bullies as well as trolls, full of cant and hypocrisy and just spout drivel which isn't even genuinely spiritual, let alone convincing.

However, you've picked on the wrong person this time, on my own thread too. I actually loathe/am disgusted by most of you but will throw my two bobsworth in occasionally, such spite and malice needs an occasional slap for sure.
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See to it that no one falls short of God’s grace;
that no root of resentment springs up and causes
trouble, and by it many be defiled. Hebrews 12:15​


It is out of control!
Some here found one another with the same mentality.

That is what a forum clique here consists of.

Some Christians come here to try to share and better understand what the Word is telling us.
And, what do we get?

Mockery.
Get automatically and wrongly mislabeled as FW'ers.
Why? Because they know how to attack that with ease and can have a feeding frenzy.

It is bullying because some of you like to bully.
It makes them feel big and important.


Thorns and thistles are around me.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Interesting, my concept of beauty in men has changed some as i've aged. Physical beauty was more important when i was young but now, a beautiful mind and real intelligence matter more to me.
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you could say you fell in love head over heals, and I could say I fell in love whilst not looking at the mantle piece 🤩
 
Blue155 said:
I’m a middle aged man with no kids and no wife.
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Get the feeling that might be choice Blue. Suspect i fell in lust really, not love, with my ex/children's Dad, he was SO beautiful when young. We broke up amicably a while back, i would probably have tried to keep the marriage going if i was a Christian then, however, can't say i'm sorry i wasn't. My little cat and i are very cosy together :)
 
LifelongLearner said:
Choice and will are not the same, we can choose something but can be prevented from enacting it by the will of others. Also being able to prevent them enacting their will at times.

We still have will but not free will in our fallen state.
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prevented from enacting it by the will of others.

That is not what is meant by the term "free will." :rolleyes:
 
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