Acts 2:38 Comparison: Evangelical vs. Oneness / Baptismal-Regeneration View
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GOD IS NO JOKE, HE means what HE says and says want HE means.
NOTHING LIVES WITHOUT WATER.
JESUS SAID UNLESS A MAN IS BORN OF WATER AND OF SPIRIT HE CAN NOT ENTER... PERIOD.
Claiming JESUS means natural birth is fooleness.
I was just asking what is the difference between you and other church who do not fallow HIS word?
NONE, NOT ONE LITTLE THING is different.
WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT HIS WORD, IT'S REAL EASY TO UNDERSTAND.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
EXAMPLE OF JESUS FILLING YOU WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
NEED BOTH TO BE REBORN, DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM????????
If you look you will see all of the verse you shared lines up with the ones I shared.
If they don't, something is wrong.
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For the babes in Christ, this is how OUCH and his ilk operate:
Shifting the foundation
They pull the discussion off how salvation works (faith in Christ’s finished work) and onto the method or sequence (baptism, tongues, etc.).
They equate “born of water” in John 3 with water baptism, ignoring the contrast Jesus makes between flesh and Spirit in verse 6.
Jesus is explaining two births — natural (water of the womb) and spiritual (by the Spirit) — not prescribing a ritual.
Using Acts 2:38 as an all-inclusive formula
They treat Peter’s words to the Jewish crowd as a universal sacramental command, not seeing that in Acts 10 Cornelius and his household received the Holy Ghost before baptism (Acts 10:44-48 KJV).
That sequence alone proves salvation precedes the water.
Ignoring the context of the “promise”
Acts 2:39 KJV says the promise is to all whom the Lord shall call.
God’s call is through the gospel (2 Thessalonians 2:14 KJV), and those who believe receive the Spirit (Galatians 3:2 KJV).
Peter’s emphasis is the same: repentance (turning to Christ) and faith bring forgiveness; baptism testifies to it.
Appealing to emotion and fear
Phrases like “GOD IS NO JOKE” or “DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM?” are rhetorical pressure, not doctrine.
Scripture warns that “the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God” (James 1:20 KJV).
Grace and Peace
That kind of reply is a classic “Oneness Pentecostal” / baptismal-regeneration response, which is HERESY.
For the babes in Christ, this is how OUCH and his ilk operate:
Shifting the foundation
They pull the discussion off how salvation works (faith in Christ’s finished work) and onto the method or sequence (baptism, tongues, etc.).
They equate “born of water” in John 3 with water baptism, ignoring the contrast Jesus makes between flesh and Spirit in verse 6.
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” — John 3:6 KJV
Jesus is explaining two births — natural (water of the womb) and spiritual (by the Spirit) — not prescribing a ritual.
Using Acts 2:38 as an all-inclusive formula
They treat Peter’s words to the Jewish crowd as a universal sacramental command, not seeing that in Acts 10 Cornelius and his household received the Holy Ghost before baptism (Acts 10:44-48 KJV).
That sequence alone proves salvation precedes the water.
Ignoring the context of the “promise”
Acts 2:39 KJV says the promise is to all whom the Lord shall call.
God’s call is through the gospel (2 Thessalonians 2:14 KJV), and those who believe receive the Spirit (Galatians 3:2 KJV).
Peter’s emphasis is the same: repentance (turning to Christ) and faith bring forgiveness; baptism testifies to it.
Appealing to emotion and fear
Phrases like “GOD IS NO JOKE” or “DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM?” are rhetorical pressure, not doctrine.
Scripture warns that “the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God” (James 1:20 KJV).
Grace and Peace
Are you telling me the so called "Oneness Pentecostal is the only ones following HIS WORD?
FYI, I noticed you were pointing out the fought of the catholic church, and I was just asking you what is the difference between you and them???
As we can see, not much.
Did you prove what you said?
"That’s exactly what Peter preached: repentance and remission in His name — and baptism followed as the public witness of that faith."
PROVE BAPTISM IS PUBLIC WITNESS OF FAITH, TO BE TRUE, "baptism followed as the public witness of that faith." OR IT'S A LIE FROM SATAN.
"So yes, we obey the command to be baptized, but we do so because we are saved, not to become saved."
Since we can not be saved with our sins, PROVE THIS TO BE TRUE OR IT'S A LIE FROM SATAN.
This has nothing to do with any denomantion.
Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
This is what happened when JESUS filled HIS disciples.
Acts 2:4
King James Version
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Do you agree with it, just curious.
You’re confusing obedience after faith with the cause of salvation. Let’s go point-by-point with Scripture:
Baptism as a Public Witness of Faith
Romans 6:3-4 KJV —
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead… even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Paul shows baptism pictures what already happened spiritually — death to sin and new life through Christ. It’s a testimony, not the transaction.
Acts 8:36-37 KJV
The Ethiopian eunuch said, “What doth hinder me to be baptized?”
Philip answered, “If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.”
Only after he confessed faith did Philip baptize him.
That’s a public confession of an inward faith — exactly what baptism symbolizes.
Salvation Comes Before the Water
Acts 10:43-48 KJV
Peter preached, “Whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
While he yet spake, “the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard.”
Then Peter said, “Can any man forbid water…?”
They received the Spirit (salvation) before touching the water.
That’s the biblical order: faith --> Spirit --> baptism, not the reverse.
Forgiveness Comes Through Christ’s Blood, Not Water
Ephesians 1:7 KJV
“In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins.”
1 John 1:7 KJV
“The blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
Water never atoned for a single soul; the blood did.
Baptism proclaims that truth outwardly.
Why We’re Baptized
Jesus commanded it as part of discipleship (Matthew 28:19-20 KJV).
We obey because we’re His, not to become His.
It’s the believer’s first act of obedience — a sign of identification with Christ, just as circumcision was a sign of the covenant (Romans 4:11 KJV).
Abraham believed first, then received the sign.
Same order.
- Faith unites us to Christ (Galatians 3:26-27 KJV).
- Baptism testifies to that union.
- The gospel saves; baptism shows it.
Be great if you could show me where baptism is a public witness of faith WITH HIS WORD, no need for you to explain HIS word to me.
I really really like to read it for myself.
If Paul in Romans 6 is telling us what already happened spiritually, then show me how to get rid of sins spiritually.
The eunuch was on the road and was baptized, WHO WAS AROUND to see?
Acts 10 YOU SAY it comes before baptizing THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES.
Yep, it is HIS blood that covers us.
Abraham was OT.
So I will wait,
"That’s exactly what Peter preached: repentance and remission in His name — and baptism followed as the public witness of that faith."
PROVE BAPTISM IS PUBLIC WITNESS OF FAITH, TO BE TRUE, "baptism followed as the public witness of that faith." OR IT'S A LIE FROM SATAN.
"So yes, we obey the command to be baptized, but we do so because we are saved, not to become saved."
Since we can not be saved with our sins, PROVE THIS TO BE TRUE OR IT'S A LIE FROM SATAN.
DON'T TELL ME, SHOW ME LET JESUS DO THE TALKING.
Of course, I absolutely agree with every word of Acts 2:38-39 KJV and Acts 2:4 KJV. The question isn’t whether they’re true, but how they’re rightly understood within the whole counsel of Scripture.
Peter’s call in Acts 2:38 was to a Jewish audience that had just rejected their Messiah (Acts 2:36-37 KJV). His command to “repent and be baptized… for the remission of sins” meant they were to turn from unbelief and publicly identify with the very Christ they crucified. Their baptism didn’t produce forgiveness; it proclaimed the faith that received it.
We know this because:
- In Acts 10:43-47 KJV, the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost before baptism — proving salvation comes by faith alone in Christ’s name, not by the act of water.
- The word “for” (Greek eis) in Acts 2:38 can mean “because of” or “in reference to,” as in “be baptized because of the remission of sins.” Compare Matthew 12:41 KJV — “They repented at (eis) the preaching of Jonas.”
So yes — I believe every verse, but also the balance of Scripture:
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” — Acts 10:43 KJV
Grace and peace — always comparing Scripture with Scripture (1 Corinthians 2:13 KJV).
It does not differ much, I didn't really look to close.
Acts 2:38-39
English Standard Version
38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
Acts 2:4
English Standard Version
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
At this point, the babes in Christ have read enough from both sides to clearly discern that OUCH’s theology doesn’t align with sound doctrine. That’s what truly matters — that they can see the truth for themselves in the Word.
As for OUCH, it’s evident there’s no real desire to learn or rightly divide Scripture. My focus remains on those who do have ears to hear.
Grace and peace to all who love His truth.
As for OUCH, it’s evident there’s no real desire to learn or rightly divide Scripture. My focus remains on those who do have ears to hear.
Grace and peace to all who love His truth.
Don't flatter yourself. Your self-exalting behavior is really quite nauseating
Coming from someone who literally used AI to generate a picture of a wolf wearing my username — which the moderators themselves removed for violating forum rules — that’s quite a statement.
There’s no need for insults or name-calling; the truth stands on its own. I’ll keep focusing on Scripture and letting the Word speak for itself.
Grace and peace — even to those who mock it.