See I told you I didn't call you satan. But you, as usual, misrepresent what is said in order to disparage and cause division.
Acts 2:38 Comparison: Evangelical vs. Oneness / Baptismal-Regeneration View
- Thread starter LightBearer316
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
See I told you I didn't call you satan. But you, as usual, misrepresent what is said in order to disparage and cause division.
I can't believe you're being so pedantic and legalistic. Honestly, it's really disgusting to see this coming from a Christian.
It’s not “pedantic” or “legalistic” to stand for truth — it’s obedience to God’s Word.
What’s truly disturbing is how consistently you twist Scripture to fit Oneness / Pentecostal doctrine.
That system corrupts the simplicity of the gospel and turns grace into ritual.
“Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.” — Matthew 22:29 (KJV)
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
@Wansvic and @ChristRoseFromTheDead have made their position clear — they’ve exposed themselves by promoting a works-based, Oneness / Pentecostal doctrine that conflicts with the plain teaching of Scripture.
The Word of God stands on its own: salvation is by grace through faith, not by ritual or human effort (Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV).
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
The Word of God stands on its own: salvation is by grace through faith, not by ritual or human effort (Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV).
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
If you’re a babe in Christ, take this thread as a warning — wolves don’t always snarl.
False teachers often sound spiritual while quietly twisting the Word of God.
Be discerning.
Test everything by Scripture.
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” — Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
False teachers often sound spiritual while quietly twisting the Word of God.
Be discerning.
Test everything by Scripture.
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” — Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
B
Believer08
Guest
@LightBearer316 is perverting the gospel of Christ—the good news of Christ…which is how to receive the remission of sins by the authority of Christ, by telling others you don’t have to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins.
@LightBearer316 is also promoting a false teaching of the Greek word “eis” in Acts 2:38, attributing it to be meaning “because of”.
@LightBearer316 is also misrepresenting the body/church of Christ, saying they teach or believe in baptismal regeneration.
@LightBearer316 is also misconstruing a host of passages to try and get around the necessity of water baptism for the remission of sins.
@LightBearer316 is also promoting a false teaching of the Greek word “eis” in Acts 2:38, attributing it to be meaning “because of”.
@LightBearer316 is also misrepresenting the body/church of Christ, saying they teach or believe in baptismal regeneration.
@LightBearer316 is also misconstruing a host of passages to try and get around the necessity of water baptism for the remission of sins.
That’s a textbook attack from someone defending baptismal regeneration!
You’ve made several claims, but none of them stand when Scripture interprets Scripture.
Acts 10:43–47 KJV shows believers received forgiveness and the Holy Ghost before baptism — that’s God’s commentary on Acts 2:38 KJV.
The Greek eis in that verse can mean “because of” or “with reference to,” exactly as in Matthew 12:41 KJV (“repented at the preaching of Jonah”).
Faith and repentance are inward; baptism is the outward testimony.
If water were required for forgiveness, grace would no longer be grace (Romans 11:6 KJV).
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
B
Believer08
Guest
You are once again misrepresenting me. I do not believe in baptismal regeneration. I can very easily refute your claims with scripture, as you are having Peter contradicting Peter. Before this conversation continues, you must stop saying that I believe in something that I do not. If not, then we have nothing to discuss.
That’s a complete misrepresentation of what I’ve said. Anyone can go back through all my posts and see the truth for themselves.
This kind of twisting — especially of God’s Word — is exactly how Oneness / Pentecostal theology operates.
They distort Scripture to fit their system instead of letting Scripture interpret itself.
I’ve never denied repentance or obedience — I’ve said they follow saving faith, not replace it.
Scripture teaches:
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out.” — Acts 3:19 KJV
Repentance and faith are inseparable, and baptism is the outward testimony of that inward change.
Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Baptism doesn’t produce remission — it proclaims the remission already received through His blood (Acts 10:43).
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
If that’s the case, then we may simply be using different terms.
When you insist that water baptism is required for the remission of sins, that is what Scripture calls adding a work to grace — which is the very definition of baptismal regeneration.
Peter never contradicted Peter.
Acts 2:38 shows repentance and baptism as outward confession; Acts 10:43-47 shows forgiveness received before baptism. Both are consistent — faith in Christ brings remission, baptism follows as testimony.
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
This is such a bogus idea (not your idea, I know). Scripture is not able to interpret anything. It is the holy spirit which witnesses with all of scripture to provide the correct interpretation.
B
Believer08
Guest
So did Peter contradict himself in between Acts 2 and Acts 10?
B
Believer08
Guest
Me thinks he’s either responding with AI, or copy and pasting. He’s responding way too quick not to be lol. I’ve been guilty of that many times as well, but at least I’m man enough to admit it lol.
I've challenged him on that, but he's not forthcoming about anything really. Totally boilerplate from whatever source
No AI needed here to refute your unsound false doctrine — just the plain Word of God rightly divided.
Looks like we’ve stirred the nest of the Oneness / Pentecostal crowd, and the twisting has begun.
Truth doesn’t need algorithms; it stands on Scripture alone.
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
B
Believer08
Guest
Once again, you’re accusing me of something I am not. I am not a oneness Pentecostal, I do not believe in baptismal regeneration, nor do I believe in a works based gospel. That tells me you don’t want to have a cordial conversation. All you want to do is accuse me of things that I don’t believe in and say things about me that I am not.
If quoting Scripture sounds like boilerplate to you, that says everything.
I don’t need AI or copy-paste when the Word of God already answers every false claim.
“The word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword.” — Hebrews 4:12 KJV
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
That’s the tone you set when you chose to enter the thread at post #309.
You can’t accuse others of hostility while opening with a post that labels someone a false teacher and misrepresents what they’ve said.
You weren’t looking for cordial discussion — you came to push an agenda, as #309 clearly shows.
If you want genuine dialogue, start with accuracy and respect for Scripture, not accusation.
Grace and peace — always in His Word.
B
Believer08
Guest