No you don't. I've been following this thread and you've been laughing at people and scoffing at them and all sorts of stuff just because the believe in a pretrib rapture.
That's not letting people believe what they want to.
SEPT COULD BE THE RAPTURE !!!!!
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No you don't. I've been following this thread and you've been laughing at people and scoffing at them and all sorts of stuff just because the believe in a pretrib rapture.
That's not letting people believe what they want to.
If you guys are right about the rapture, my laughing and scoffing shouldn't make any difference.
Psalm1 has been saying post-tribbers are all kinds of ignorant and evil, but what he says doesn't make an impact on me and the Bible saying that rapture is post-trib. In the end, the Bible will prove right that the rapture is post-trib.
You pre-tribbers need to grow a backbone like post-tribbers do, if you think you're right.
Can I ask what verses support a post trib rapture?If you guys are right about the rapture, my laughing and scoffing shouldn't make any difference.
Psalm1 has been saying post-tribbers are all kinds of ignorant and evil, but what he says doesn't make an impact on me and the Bible saying that rapture is post-trib. In the end, the Bible will prove right that the rapture is post-trib.
You pre-tribbers need to grow a backbone like post-tribbers do, if you think you're right.
“The Rapture That Never Came—People’s Reactions Are Comedy Gold!”
One guy thought we'd be collected in batches, lol!
I also like the lady showing us at the beach what she was bringing with her during the rapture, lol!
If you guys are right about the rapture, my laughing and scoffing shouldn't make any difference.
Psalm1 has been saying post-tribbers are all kinds of ignorant and evil, but what he says doesn't make an impact on me and the Bible saying that rapture is post-trib. In the end, the Bible will prove right that the rapture is post-trib.
You pre-tribbers need to grow a backbone like post-tribbers do, if you think you're right.
I could post the evidence for you, but I wont be able to understand it for you. Post tribbers have the pattern of not answering certain questions which hinders discussion and understanding. Then it deteriorates into off color comments. Where the thread is now.
It wont, but I'd hate to run into you in Heaven later on and have you say to me, why didn't you warn me? I hadda get beheaded in the great trib, you should've tried harder!
It doesn't happen until the resurrection. The fat lady has already sung when that happens
Ok but the ressurection happens at the rapture correct? but as far as it being post trib what verses support that?
The resurrection happens and then the rapture. The fact that it occurs after the resurrection means that the trib is history.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
That's been debated to death. Go look up the old threads.
And really, you're just going to stick with your pre-trib rapture no matter what.
The only thing that will change your mind is when the rapture doesn't show up before the great tribulation and you realize you have to live through it.
Most Christians won't even get to see the rapture alive because most of us will have been killed and will sit the rest of the great tribulation out under God's altar (which I honestly don't mind and am looking forward to). The good thing about this though is we the dead will get to rise first!
Well from this verse it seems to me that it is a event that coincide with each other it doesn't say anything about it being after the tribulation
Firstly I am not pretrib I am prewrath secondly I am willing to change my mind but I am just asking for scriptural evidence if you believe in a post trib rapture then you should be able to provide such evidence right? otherwise why do you believe in it?That's been debated to death. Go look up the old threads.
And really, you're just going to stick with your pre-trib rapture no matter what.
The only thing that will change your mind is when the rapture doesn't show up before the great tribulation and you realize you have to live through it.
Most Christians won't even get to see the rapture alive because most of us will have been killed and will sit the rest of the great tribulation out under God's altar (which I honestly don't mind and am looking forward to). The good thing about this though is we the dead will get to rise first!
I am just asking for such a verse because I have not seen any verse that plainly show it post trib
Well what verse makes you think it is? honestly I am asking what verse is there that says it happens after the tribulation?
The reason why I don't enter into these debates is because they don't lead anywhere - it just becomes an endless cycle. Look at all the long-running debates in this forum!
If you're serious about studying what the Bible says on the matter, shouldn't you ask God to guide you in His word? It seems clear to me what verses plainly show the rapture as post-trib, but I don't feel obligated to change your mind. You can do that yourself with God's help.
When the resurrection occurs the whole world will know and they will weep and gnash their teeth because they have been left behind to suffer God's wrath. Instead of me showing you the obvious verses that say Christ will come in great glory, why don't you show me the verses that say he will come in a sneaky manner?
It sounds to me like you actually just don't have any scriptural evidence to provide, I am being honest and trying to learn here and all I am asking for is scripture that shows a post trib because I have studied and studied but have not found any that support itThe reason why I don't enter into these debates is because they don't lead anywhere - it just becomes an endless cycle. Look at all the long-running debates in this forum!
If you're serious about studying what the Bible says on the matter, shouldn't you ask God to guide you in His word? It seems clear to me what verses plainly show the rapture as post-trib, but I don't feel obligated to change your mind. You can do that yourself with God's help.
So is it that you just cannot provide them? because ti should be an easy matter if you are so sure of your stance remember this is the bible discussion forum so if you are not willing to discuss these things then why are you here? I bet if I was post trib you would be willing
Revelation 16:15
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15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”
Thessalonians 5:2 - The Day of the Lord
1 Thessalonians
For you yourselves know perfectly well that the day of the [return of the] Lord is coming just as a thief [comes unexpectedly and suddenly] in the night
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I find it curious that you cannot find scripture that shows a post-trib rapture, especially if God is supposedly guiding you. If you can't see it with His help, I don't see how I myself can help you.
The world won't know of Christ's return until the trumpets sound and the dead arise. It comes unexpectedly, not secretly. By the time they realize it, it will be too late