Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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from Revelation 3 verse 17-18 ~ You say, ‘I need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.
People may be hateful and bitter, but this crosses all denominations and beliefs. Calvinism or any other ism isn't responsible. People are.
And you know why CV5 thinks that Reformed folks must think of themselves as being special: It's because he's likely never experienced the utterly humbling effect God's precious grace has upon the human heart. There's nary a day that I don't marvel at God's wonderful gift and ask Him: How could You, Lord, ever love a filthy, vile, poor, pitiful, wretch like me? And the only answer I can come up with is: He can and He does because of his Beloved who is the only One the Father sees in me. Jesus' righteousness, holiness, faithfulness and perfect obedience are all mine by the Father's grace.
Also, people who posit such foolishness as CV5's truly don't understand what Paul meant when he said that he boasts in nothing save for the Cross of Christ. FWers seem to have a very shallow view of that Cross work and all the implications and ramifications to it.
Reformed: Why me? God is so very arbitrary and unpredictable, but praise God He chose [to give me "freewill" so that I could choose Him first to get Him to keep his end of the salvation bargain!]
FTFY!
Do you wear a helmet while ducking and dodging all the foul balls lobbed by the heretics here?.
Then you either didn't read or didn't understand those verses. I think it's a problem with understanding.
Go back and read them again, only slowly and carefully this time. Notice that it is God who places us "in Christ"; not man's doing.
Those who "turn to Christ", do so only because God had placed them "in Christ".
Clearly HIH deeply resents that God has "arbitrarily" chosen to keep His secret things to Himself and not reveal them to her (Deut 29:29).
Common response from those who don't like what scripture clearly says. They think they are better at translating the bible than the many experts who have already done this over several centuries. How "convenient."
There are verses that make such Biblical Truths plain = that it is according to God's will
and mercy and not the effort or will of man, but FWers are unable to accept them.
Unable or just too stubborn to relinquish their idolatry to allow the Truth to seep in...
You must always protect yourself from getting a concussion!Do you wear a helmet while ducking and dodging all the foul balls lobbed by the heretics here?.
But you're not looking at the bright side of this! When God leaves "those despicable depraved uncleaned impotent fleshly doomed non-chosenite people to their own devices, this means he's not tampering whatsoever with their sacred, inviolable"freewill", which further implies he's not "forcing" them into his kingdom. You should be tickled pink over this fact. Yet, here you are crying and whining like a little girl.
There just ain't no pleasing some people...no matter what.
God's mercy and compassion (and His good will/pleasure) are referred to by some of these heretics as "no good reason."
And, you are one of those experts (who does time travel)....
Both the Hebrew - 'min bit'en' - and the Greek -'ek kolia' literally mean, "out from the womb.
Stick with your kiddy translations if it makes you feel good.
What I am talking about is "meat" for those who wish to mature in Christ.
Wasn't physical life "imposed" upon you or did you give God permission to decree your existence?