Is it maybe a giant asteroid? or is it just fake all together?
Probably an asteroid. It's real. It passed earth in 2017 I think
Is it maybe a giant asteroid? or is it just fake all together?
but it is coming around again? interesting that it passed in 2017 that was the year the revelation 12 sign appeared in the heavensProbably an asteroid. It's real. It passed earth in 2017 I think
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------So personally I do not think that the rapture will happen on september 23rd I am a pre wrath believer and also I believe that a great harvest is on the horizon but as for the tribulation the time of jacobs trouble I am curious when do you believe this will begin and why?
And also what will trigger it? what sign do we look for?
So personally I do not think that the rapture will happen on september 23rd I am a pre wrath believer and also I believe that a great harvest is on the horizon but as for the tribulation the time of jacobs trouble I am curious when do you believe this will begin and why?
And also what will trigger it? what sign do we look for?
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.
stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.
The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.
The antichrist's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.
They can watch the people and know their location and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.
This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.
The people working together is the police force.
God is giving the world 7 years to have their way and cause all people that do not love the truth to follow the antichrist and take his mark which has to do with technology, and his solution to deter crime, and have peace.
The 7 years will begin when the antichrist negotiates peace in the Middle East resulting in a 7 years peace treaty which will impact the world for the nations divided themselves choosing sides.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The new age that interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater, and Jesus became an ascended master among others, and there is no personal God, but they honor the God of forces the power of nature, and the New Age Christ is the next world teacher.
The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age.
The New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age which he will think to change times and laws
He will prepare the world for when he claims to be God.
The new age is the beginning of the end.
Since God is giving the world 7 years to go against the truth the saints will remain on earth because they represent the truth.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
The saints will not be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first which is the condition of the world in response to the truth which they stopped the preaching of the Gospel and the belief in a personal God in favor of the new age interpretation of religions saying it is not the truth, and they want peace.
And the man of sin claims to be God which happens in the middle of the 7 years period.
So the saints have to be on earth at least in the middle of the 7 years period.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
The antichrist makes war against the saints for the last three one half years.
And when he has accomplished to scatter the power of the saints all things are finished.
Which then comes the end when Christ will deliver up the kingdom to God and then the heathen continue no more.
That is why it has to be at the end of the 7 years for that is when the heathen continue no more.
It can't be pre-7 years, or middle, because the heathen would continue.
Once the resurrection happens it is the end.
The wrath of God is not in the 7 years period for the first three and one half years salvation is still available to the world so the wrath would not be there.
And it was given unto the beast to make war against the saints and power was given to him over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, which God is allowing him to have his way so the wrath would not be there.
The wrath of God happens after the 7 years in which the saints are off the earth.
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LolI'm sorry, but I must inform you that the rapture doctrine is a false teaching started in 1830 by Margaret Macdonald, that will cause many to worship Satan when he comes claiming to be God as written in II Thes 2:3-4. According to God's word, Satan will be tossed out of heaven, Rev 12:7-9, and come to earth with his fallen angels and claim to be God. He will deceive the world into worshipping him as God by performing great signs and wonders in their sight, Rev 13:11-14. He will cause many to fall away from worshipping the true God by his deception. Paul sternly warned in II Thes 2:1-4 not to be deceived about the coming of our Lord Jesus and our gathering to him. Let no man deceive you by any means, (including their first letter) for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, (Satan).
Students of God's word know that Satan will come first, before Jesus, at the 6th trump, claiming to be God. Jesus doesn't return until the 7th trump, 3 1/2 days AFTER Satan slays God's two witnesses, Rev 11:3-13. If you want to be the first one that is taken in the field, know that it is Satan that comes first. The ones left in the field are the ones that know Satan is a fake and will stand and testify against him with the Holy Spirit speaking through them, Math 10:16-20. I pray that God opens your eyes to escape the coming hour of temptation simply by knowing the truth, that Satan is phony.
Lol
She was postrib.
She believed the church must go through the trib for "cleansing"
Postrib doctrine uses extra biblical rabbit trails to promote a false doctrine.
As you have demonstrated.
That is so lame and desperate tying us to Satan.
....but it always goes that way with postribbers.
...yet another reason to run from your man made doctrine.
------------------------------------------------It seems Paul was saying NOT to let that first letter of Thessalonians deceive you by any means,as to the day of the Lord is at hand and that the son of perdition must come first, before the Lord returns. It seems that many refuse to adhere to Paul's advice and want to fly away and go with that one that comes first. Have a nice flight friends.
So to you the gathering of the bride is so loathful, just the thought of it invokes mocking?It seems Paul was saying NOT to let that first letter of Thessalonians deceive you by any means,as to the day of the Lord is at hand and that the son of perdition must come first, before the Lord returns. It seems that many refuse to adhere to Paul's advice and want to fly away and go with that one that comes first. Have a nice flight friends.
Not mocking, just repeating what it written hoping to open the eyes of many that believe in a false teaching. Have you never read Ezk 13:18-23 where God says he is AGAINST those that hunt souls to make them fly? Yet the churches continue to teach this exact thing not heeding God's warning. Not mocking, just warning not to go with the first one that comes claiming to be God. And by the way, the gathering of the bride is at the 7th trump, not the 6th, Rev 19.So to you the gathering of the bride is so loathful, just the thought of it invokes mocking?
My understanding is that the "Day of the Lord" begins at the 7th trump when Christ returns to earth to set up his millennium kingdom and has his priests teach the people right from wrong, Ezk 44:15-16, 44:23.------------------------------------------------
Key to understanding is what exactly is the Day of the Lord
My understanding is that the "Day of the Lord" begins at the 7th trump when Christ returns to earth to set up his millennium kingdom and has his priests teach the people right from wrong, Ezk 44:15-16, 44:23.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------My understanding is that the "Day of the Lord" begins at the 7th trump when Christ returns to earth to set up his millennium kingdom and has his priests teach the people right from wrong, Ezk 44:15-16, 44:23.
"Will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." He is coming back to earth to reign. He will touch down on the Mt. of Olives from whence he departed. There is no need for anyone to rapture away for the Lord is returning here to set up his kingdom.--------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are getting close to the truth
You are right in saying the 7th Trump or last Trump. This trump carrys over to the Bowl Judgements. Earth is reaped in Rev 14:14 with the Lord in the cloud just as promised he would come
I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man[b] with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
Daniel 7:13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven.
Acts 1:7 This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts one has a setting opposite of your doctrine.--------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are getting close to the truth
You are right in saying the 7th Trump or last Trump. This trump carrys over to the Bowl Judgements. Earth is reaped in Rev 14:14 with the Lord in the cloud just as promised he would come
I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man[b] with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
Daniel 7:13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven.
Acts 1:7 This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
The Jewish rapture of rev 14 is people rising in the airNot mocking, just repeating what it written hoping to open the eyes of many that believe in a false teaching. Have you never read Ezk 13:18-23 where God says he is AGAINST those that hunt souls to make them fly? Yet the churches continue to teach this exact thing not heeding God's warning. Not mocking, just warning not to go with the first one that comes claiming to be God. And by the way, the gathering of the bride is at the 7th trump, not the 6th, Rev 19.
I agree that the bible tells us that Jesus and Elijah ascended through the air, but of Enoch, we are just told:The Jewish rapture of rev 14 is people rising in the air
The 2 witnesses rise into the air.
Jesus rose into the air.
Elijah rose into the air.
Enoch rose into the air.
Paul rose into the air....as did John.
The church meets the dead in christ in the air.
To put all that down is plain crazy.