Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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sawdust said:
I never said he needed saving, I said he was in a saved state and he had no eternal life. Being given eternal life is to be celebrated as royalty. What God has done for us in Christ is far more than mere salvation.
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From what was he saved prior to his sin?
 
sawdust said:
No, I became a living soul at birth just as Adam became a living soul when "awakened" in this world. I had no breath in the womb just as he had no breath in the body that was formed until the Lord God breathed his life (literally lives) into him. 2:7
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So, you were just dead meat being carried around in your mother's womb for nine months? You had no heartbeat? No brain waves? You were deader than a door nail?
 
Rufus said:
Don't bother me with non sequiturs. The New Covenant stipulations begin in v. 31. So, what are the conditions that Israel must fulfill in order to enter into that covenant?
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Scriptural context = "Don't bother me with non sequiturs."

Still laughing as I post reply....
 
cv5 said:
Who's your daddy?

Gen 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Gen 2:20
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
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So glad you asked:

Gal 3:29
29 And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you.
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What about you: Do have the same spiritual daddy your superhero buddy had after he sinned?
 
cv5 said:
Of course He was. Its patently obvious to every advanced Bible student.
As for the duffers and fluffers and bluffers, they will likely never matriculate to that stage, and will be stuck with endlessly repeating dogmatic Bible tweet mantras.

Oh well, don't blame me for trying.
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Oh, Proud One, you're still tooting your own horn, heh? You must have some serious self-esteem problems....
 
studier said:
1Cor2, which you don't understand correctly, but its use fits your mold, used as a shield. I prefer 1Cor4:3-4. There's less to be discussed and no self-validation.

No charge.
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At least you recognize that your services, words, opinions and commentaries are worthless. I'm proud of you! (y)
 
rogerg said:
Why would I blame you? I don't blame people for their ignorance but try to edify them.
I will say, however that with you, it ain't easy
But believe it or not, we can thrive quite nicely spiritually without your approval.
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And especially without his "advanced biblical knowledge"! :rolleyes:
 
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BillyBob said:
If salvation is by grace alone, it can only be by what God has done. If God has done it all, then there is absolutely nothing that man can add! To believe otherwise, is to say that we are not saved by grace alone.
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In FWT, not only isn't grace alone, but grace depends entirely on their god Volition coming to their rescue in order to be saved.
 
Rufus said:
So glad you asked:

Gal 3:29
29 And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you.
NLT

What about you: Do have the same spiritual daddy your superhero buddy had after he sinned?
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Right here little buddy....
This perpetual failure to comprehend the true Biblical narrative of Adam yet another vast gaping void in your keyhole scope narrow understanding that I tried to fill.
Too bad so sad.

Rom 5:14
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
 
Blain said:
Ok but even so the chapter is speaking of God's wrath not the ability to choose him so what is your point exactly?
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It does enlighten us to what happens to those who reject God.
The point is that the ability to reject God is a free will act. If rejecting God is free will then how is it that accepting God is not free will according to a certain doctrine?
 
rogerg said:
Why would I blame you? I don't blame people for their ignorance but try to edify them.
I will say, however that with you, it ain't easy
But believe it or not, we can thrive quite nicely spiritually without your approval.
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Well, you and your crew issuing quaint Bible tweets, soundbites, mantras and barks aren't doing a thing for me these days.
Sorry fake sorry.
 
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